Quintus 5,399 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I don't get it,why does the orchestration topic keep popping up? It's been discussed many timesYour right, we should all stop wasting our time on the subject and get back to discussing all the great new film music out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I don't get it,why does the orchestration topic keep popping up? It's been discussed many timesYour right, we should all stop wasting our time on the subject and get back to discussing all the great new film music out there.We would if there were any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 JW pieces would sound almost exactly the same if they were recorded directly from his hand written sketches.Actually, you wouldn't hear much at all. Those things are hard enough to read as a whole, not to mention if you were trying to sight-read just your own part out of all the mess. But I get your point, and it's true - Williams' sketches contain nearly all the information that's needed to make the music. For the most part, he just has other people to manage the tedious work of translating it into a form that's easier to read and so forth. While synth programming is probably beyond his area of expertise, simply copying sketches out into complete scores and parts certainly isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I don't get it,why does the orchestration topic keep popping up? It's been discussed many timesYour right, we should all stop wasting our time on the subject and get back to discussing all the great new film music out there.We would if there were any. Have a cookie!I hate having to explain that I'm taking the piss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 There there, Quint, I understood the joke, and that's a very good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 While I have no problem with composers having to assign an occasional cue to an assistant or "ghostwriter", I would suggest that everyone find the BBC documentary and watch Williams and Herb Spencer discuss the Mynock cave sequence from TESB.That should tell just how specific Williams is in his sketches and what he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AI 0 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 JW pieces would sound almost exactly the same if they were recorded directly from his hand written sketches.Actually, you wouldn't hear much at all. Those things are hard enough to read as a whole, not to mention if you were trying to sight-read just your own part out of all the mess. That could be a funny artyjeffrey comic actually. A bunch of bewildered orchestra musicians standing around, with Williams striding into the center, placing his little sketch on a music stand and saying;around the sketch, a perimeter create... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 It reminds me that there has been no Jeffrey's comic for couple of months now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 While I have no problem with composers having to assign an occasional cue to an assistant or "ghostwriter", I would suggest that everyone find the BBC documentary and watch Williams and Herb Spencer discuss the Mynock cave sequence from TESB.That should tell just how specific Williams is in his sketches and what he wants.This is interseting, Mark. Which B.B.C. documentary is this; is it the one shown just before "Empire..." opened in 1980, and is called "The Risk Business"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 It's called STAR WARS MUSIC BY JOHN WILLIAMS.Here is the link to part one with the other parts listed there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Didn't Alexander Courage orchestrate the Superman love theme?I'm possibly wrong, but what i think i remember is courage talking about superman IV, and how he re-orchestrate the Love theme concert version in a 'flying sequence' cue for the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 It reminds me that there has been no Jeffrey's comic for couple of months now. I think he's moved into satirizing American football with his comics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 To hell with all these orchestrators. They should all be rounded up and flogged........except little Jimmy Horner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 It is blashphemous even to think that JW would use additional composers. He writes everything himself, his orchestrators are glorified copyists and he even carves out the woodwind instruments and string instruments for his orchestras to play with, casts horns, trumpets and trombones from different metals for his brass players and manufactures the paper on which the sheet music is printed on, kills and bleeds the squids from which the ink for the sheet music notation is manufactured and also furnishes the recording studios with self made superior recording equipment he has carved from magical whale bone. He is self sufficient and self reliant. End of story. Period. Nuff' said!I'm just reading this now, but...you win Jay's Gold Start Post of the week (for last week) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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