#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 If the original is made available in the same format with the same picture and sound quality, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Apparently the Library of Congress only has the 1997 Se.That's what I remember reading as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Ah thanks for clearing that up Steef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I am starting to doubt that Lucasfilm still have untouched versions of these films anymoreI'd bet money that they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I have to agree with Jason, I don't think they do either. Otherwise they would have given the theatrical prints a proper restoration and released them as part of the Blu-Ray packaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 in order to do the SEs they havd to clean the whole unaltered negative.I dont think they would destroy that negative.By the least, a digitized version of it must have been preserved, since some SEs effect were upgraded, and you cant just update the textures.Im sure the should have pasted the new models in unaltered footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff 10 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I think they have the negative. If you watch the Blu-Ray documentary on the SEs (I think it was the Anatomy of a Dewback), they explain the pain-staking process they went through to restore the original film before making modifications. What I realized more than anything was just how difficult it is to do a restoration project of that magnitude. It's not like they can just pop open a film canister and run it through a xerox machine. I think they will release the theatrical versions in a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Apparently they did alter the original negatives for the SE's., The only hope is that prints of the original versions still exist within LFL vaults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Apparently they did alter the original negatives for the SE's., .That's what I read, but i can't find the link.wasn't the Lucasfilm archive supposed to be a mess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Actually, I think Star Wars would be stored in the salt mines in Kansas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Apparently they did alter the original negatives for the SE's., The only hope is that prints of the original versions still exist within LFL vaults.I wouldn't count on the second part of your post.It's a bit discouraging to know that they did alter the original negatives. Lucas should have had a copy of those made for preservation and historical reasons. That way when he died, someone could remaster the theatrical prints properly and restore them on a high def format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I feel like Lucas definitely kept older versions in some form and not simply Laserdisc.Lucas saves everything. This is how the Special Editions could be done to begin with. I doubt he would have suddenly changed his ways, even if he did turn into kind of a crappy filmmaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Can you 'paste' a CGI effect in a original negative? Dont you have to scan it, add the new things on the computer and then transfer the mixed result to a negative???I dont know anything about film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/savingstarwars.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Aobut the lost destroyed negatives.Remember guys that the negatives of the Star Wars OT deleted scenes were destroyed for decades untill they had to but a worth-purchase bonus on the Blurays... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 The CGI in JURASSIC PARK still looks more realistic than the stuff trotted out today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 The CGI in JURASSIC PARK still looks more realistic than the stuff trotted out today.Agreed.Besides, complaining about the CGI dinos in Jurassic Park is a little like complaining that E.T. doesn't look quite real! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 What I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I have to agree with Jason, I don't think they do either. Otherwise they would have given the theatrical prints a proper restoration and released them as part of the Blu-Ray packaging.The theatrical cuts not being on blu-ray are down to GL's vision that his new versions are "his original vision!" so whether they exist or not, they were never going to be on there.Even if the negs are gone, I imagine there are more than a few private collectors out there who have prints in their collection. So when George dies let's hope one of them steps up to the plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 So question (and sorry if this has been addressed here before):On the Blu-Ray editions of JP and TLW, how long are the features on JW? Is there footage of him actually conducting the orchestra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 The CGI in JURASSIC PARK still looks more realistic than the stuff trotted out today.I am in agreement with this. I would also say THE ABYSS' pseudopod holds up wonderfully as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 So question (and sorry if this has been addressed here before):On the Blu-Ray editions of JP and TLW, how long are the features on JW? Is there footage of him actually conducting the orchestra?Or Artie Kane conducting the orchestra.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I am in agreement with this. I would also say THE ABYSS' pseudopod holds up wonderfully as well.Not to mention the CGI effects in T2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Things were better in the old days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Or Artie Kane conducting the orchestra....Well, yes.Anybody?Things were better in the old days.And I happen to think Titanic holds up surprisingly well, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 The first Transformers movie had better, more realistic effects then the third one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff 10 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I couldn't buy Transformers 3's effects. They went overboard and it ended up looking like a computer game or a cartoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Maybe that was in response to the script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Things were better in the old days.No indoor plumbing was better? no Internet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Plumbing is indoors now??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 So question (and sorry if this has been addressed here before):On the Blu-Ray editions of JP and TLW, how long are the features on JW? Is there footage of him actually conducting the orchestra?Very short. Not much more than what's been posted online. He has some additional comments about the kitchen scene. His comments about Lost World don't even seem to be specifically in regard to that score. There's not much of anything, again, beyond what's on YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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