Quintus 5,399 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 AKA "The Devil's Chord", what great examples of its usage can you think of in the scores of JW? Link to YouTube links and timings where you can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 The what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TritoneAnd (googley google)...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foCs3T454tg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 CE3K is full of devil's intervalfor example: 0:14http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDteTzuVU5I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Right at the beginning, first interval of the Skull motiv, repeated several times:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EISp8jLLXbs&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 CE3K is full of devil's intervalfor example: 0:14Ah yes, the search motif, or whatever you want to call it. It basically IS that interval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Right at the beginning, first interval of the Skull motiv, repeated several times:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EISp8jLLXbs&feature=relatedActually it's the first two intervals. The Skull's motif is one of the clearest examples of Williams' use of the tritone to evoke the mystery of the unknown. It's cool how it dissonates with the melody later on as the theme unfolds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 Continuing with Indiana Jones, could the trained confirm whether or not I hear a splendidly epic version during The Penitent Man Will Pass? As Indy takes his leap of faith, I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I don't recall any real use of the tritone in that passage, no.But still continuing with Indiana Jones, the Ark theme puts the interval to even more awesome use. The interval between the second and third notes is a tritone, and more importantly, the first and second chords are separated by a tritone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 The "carnivore motif" from Jurassic Park is also based on an augmented fourth (i.e. tritone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmanjerm 78 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Much of the "Jaws" score uses two chords that are related by tritone. (E-flat major and A major in the main title track).0:56 or so til about 1:10, most of the harmonic shifting is just going back and forth between those two chords:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw00IqWZCAUNot the "melodic" interval I'm sure you meant....the most obvious to me is that opening of "Call of the Crystal." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 it it the same thing as the Napoleon interval? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 ...you mean a Neapolitan chord?No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I do have to point out that the tritone has been a fundamental part of Western music for 400 years. These examples are just the most obvious melodic uses of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 John Williams invented the tritone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 John Williams invented music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Right at the beginning, first interval of the Skull motiv, repeated several times:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EISp8jLLXbs&feature=relatedActually it's the first two intervals. The Skull's motif is one of the clearest examples of Williams' use of the tritone to evoke the mystery of the unknown. It's cool how it dissonates with the melody later on as the theme unfolds.Yes of course, thanks I think it's the most obvious example to date in JW thematics.Continuing with Indiana Jones, could the trained confirm whether or not I hear a splendidly epic version during The Penitent Man Will Pass? As Indy takes his leap of faith, I mean.I hear just a D minor chord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sarton 0 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_VdhYCE4JA&feature=relatedTiming: 0:47-0:50You can hear 2 chords with a tritonic relation. You can hear the same relation in this Kachaturian Watlz in the seconds 0:40-0:42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 The carnivore motif from JP's got it, though over all, it's much more common in Herrmann's scores.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 The carnivore motif from JP's got it, though over all, it's much more common in Herrmann's scores..Yes, Mysterious Island Theme comes to mind.Btw also Voldemort's Theme (which is basically Herrmann's Mysterious Island theme) has it (the downward interval). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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