#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 With great ease is exactly the word I would use, Alvar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 BTW, I totally agree with you that PJ is making a mistake in turning The Hobbit in another 9 hour epic akin to LOTR.The book doesnt support thatYes that is where the shifts of tone come from. Suddenly hilariously silly and irreverent to Tolkien (The Forest River fun) and dead serious the next moment with fate of the world hanging in the balance (Gandalf Investigates stuff).Oh and I can't wait to see Dain Ironfoot come riding in with his battleboar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 The solemn tone when the Dwarrow reach Erebor and manage to open the secret door is just right though. Shore's development and use of his Dwarvish material is outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 The solemn tone when the Dwarrow reach Erebor and manage to open the secret door is just right though. Shore's development and use of his Dwarvish material is outstanding.I absolute agree! Ken Stott as previously said is in top form there along with the rest of the company and Freeman. It is a rather important moment in the novel as well with no whimsy at all so PJ did excellent job with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,716 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 The solemn tone when the Dwarrow reach Erebor and manage to open the secret door is just right though. Shore's development and use of his Dwarvish material is outstanding.I absolute agree! Ken Stott as previously said is in top form there along with the rest of the companyThe rest of the Company? The Dwarves are just standing there, with almost no lines of dialogue, because they clearly had to make room for more Taurielisms like: "If we do not fight, then our enemy won't encounter any resistance".Now now I remember Glóin being wonderfully shocked and reverent as he read the inscription in the secret door's lintel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 Which one is Glóin again? And Óin? And Bifur, Bofur etc etc?Two films and i can only positively identify:ThorinBalinKilliFilliBofurObelix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Which one is Glóin again? And Óin? And Bifur, Bofur etc etc?Two films and i can only positively identify:ThorinBalinKilliFilliBofurObelixYou just asked which one is Bofur, then sai dyou can positively identify Bofur..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 I cheated, i actually had to google Bofur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I have found that I can always identify the individual dwarfs, especially now that I have seen the appendixesThorin and Balin are obviousBofur is the one with the hat that sings the song in the AUJ EE, and overall gets the most lines out of all the dwarves after Thorin and BalinKili is the only other one without a long beard, that falls in love with Tauriel, and Fili is his brother with the dangling braided 'stache that was cast after all the other dwarfsDwalin is the bald one that shows up first in Bag End, and likes to head-butt thingsBombur is the fat gingerBifur is the one with the axe in his head that only speaks dwarfishThat leaves Oin Gloin Ori Dor Nori.... Ori is the one played by that young newcomer, with the slingshot. Nori is his older brother that always has all the concealed weapons the elves are finding. Dori is the one with braided grey hairGloin is the one that had pictures of his wife and Gimli. I guess I can't think of anything specific about Oin.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 I object to your use of the term ginger!We prefer "auburn". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Nori is the "theif" right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 In the films. though? We're talking about their film counterparts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 "Theif"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 And a Liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 I have to say, PJ did pretty well in that regard.Even if it did require Starfish hairdo's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 What I mean is, has Nori been a thief in the films? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 What I mean is, has Nori been a thief in the films?In the EE of AUJ he was yes. He stole all the stuff in Rivendell.Damn you BloadBoal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 And behind the scenes (as in, not in the films, just in the "making of" books) he had stole stuff from Bag End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 What did he steal from Bag End? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 It did not say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Will Bombur speak in the Extended Edition, do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Probably not, seeing how Jackson is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,210 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 He didn't speak. I hope he will if they put the forest river back into the EE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 You mean the Mirkwood river? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,210 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Not really, no. You had a sense he could kill an awful lot of Orcs, but not take down a whole army by himself. In The Hobbit, Legolas is like this invincible war machine, which almost makes him look like a pussy in LOTR by comparison. Unfortunately, that's true. I actually don't think they feel as different as some people here claim. A bit lighter yeah. But to be honest, LOTR was full of unlikely stunt and fight scenes. The action during the river scenes is no less over the top then Legolas killing an Oliphant and sliding to safety on his trunk, or ghost radiating a green glow sweeping across an entire army.... The ghost army stunt and Legolas' moves were the stupid, cringeworthy bits in the LOTR battle scenes. And in DoS, he seems to be ONLY doing this sort of stuff, and without much effort. You mean the Mirkwood river? Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 In DOS Legolas' CG stunts look even more ridiculous, but somehow... cooler and badass too.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 Yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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