Nick1Ø66 4,731 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Yes, it's very important to be earnest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Superman Batman The Rocketeer The Incredibles Captain America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 The "superhero movies can't be serious" shit is as dumb as the opposing view. They can be both. I prefer them serious, though, because I like coming out of the theater feeling stirred and moved in a way that seems to relate to the real world, as though the archetypal goodness just witnessed were something that could truly happen. This is why the Nolan films resonate so strongly. They deliver something like real hope. The Avengers is the other end of things. It's escapism, and there's nothing wrong with that. But it's less fulfilling for me. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Scores 1. Superman - John Williams 2. Batman - Danny Elfman 3. The Incredibles - Michael Giacchino 4. The Rocketeer - James Horner 5. Spider-man - Danny Eflman 6. The Amazing Spider-man - James Horner 7. The Shadow - Jerry Goldsmith 8. Supergirl - Jerry Goldsmith 9. The Punisher - Carlo Siliotto 10. Avengers: Age of Ultron - Danny Elfman 11. Captain America - Alan Silvestri 12. Thor - Patrick Doyle 13. Thor: The Dark World - Brian Tyler 14. Iron Man 3 - Brian Tyler 15. X-Men Apocalypse - John Ottoman I am not mentioning scores with repeated primary themes. I might add Goldenthal's work for Batman but I am not sufficiently familiar with the scores. As my criteria, I picked scores with strong themes for the superhero which I think is an important requirement for a good superhero score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,974 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 14 minutes ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: The "superhero movies can't be serious" shit is as dumb as the opposing view. They can be both. I prefer them serious, though, because I like coming out of the theater feeling stirred and moved in a way that seems to relate to the real world, as though the archetypal goodness just witnessed were something that could truly happen. Well said. And it's true of other genres, as well. I think it's the underlying reason for why people like and/or find Empire Strikes Back the best of the Star Wars films: Its the most serious of them that's also well made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises are basically no superhero movies, that's why I like them the most. It's a kind of drama + character study + philosophy + terrorist thriller in customs. Batman Begins is however a standard superhero flick and you can feel how Nolan wanted it to be more, but he didn't dare at that time. It's his worst film whereas its sequel is his best. The only reason therefore is that he transgressed the rules of that rather trivial genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,731 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises are basically no superhero movies Of course they're superhero movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Of course they're superhero movies. Not of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,974 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 There's actually a truth to that. Batman Begins takes over an hour to show us Batman, as does Dark Knight Rises. They way I explain these films to others is as dramas about a guy called Bruce Wayne, who simply happens to dress up and fight crime. I find it untrue in regards of the Dark Knight. That's much more of a superhero film, crossed with a crime drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,731 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 They're all superhero movies. The fact that they have serious themes doesn't make them any less movies about comic book superheroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken 10 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 12 hours ago, Josh500 said: I'd venture to say that Burton's Batman movies are superior to Nolan's Batman is every way, movie and score. That said, both sets of movies are fantastic, of course, I'm not saying Nolan's trilogy is terrible. Danny Elfman did something fantastic with Batman. His dark rich textures certainly won me over, brooding, mesmerizing, completely love it Telarc version is my fav based on dynamics, it really is something to behold https://www.discogs.com/Erich-Kunzel-Cincinnati-Pops-Orchestra-Fantastic-Journey/release/2879924 15 minutes of Batman Telarc treatment here, rest of the CD is good too My 5 super hero movies (not all super heroes) Escape From New York Flash Gordon Superman II Batman (Elfman) Terminator (because I can't think of a 5th) Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Hell yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 4 hours ago, Chen G. said: There's actually a truth to that. Batman Begins takes over an hour to show us Batman, as does Dark Knight Rises. They way I explain these films to others is as dramas about a guy called Bruce Wayne, who simply happens to dress up and fight crime. I find it untrue in regards of the Dark Knight. That's much more of a superhero film, crossed with a crime drama. Agree on the first paragraph, disagree on the second. The Dark Knight is much less a film of this genre than any other film. Much more complex, much more realistic, much more political, much more down-to-earth and therefore much more threatening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I want everyone to put their vote on this tiny ass piece of paper! If you have pens, pass it around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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