King Mark 3,631 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Let the first impressions begin!I have yet to listen to my taped broadcast of the PoA preview(heard bits of it since i'm watching Survivor.)Post your thoughts here.K.M.Dedicating the first official thread to the PoA score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 The one that i remember the most is the bit that played when Seamus said "He's been sited" It sounded totaly Williams and it sounded like the begining of a tremendous action cue. Got my blood pumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 10, 2004 Author Share Posted May 10, 2004 I'm excited at the bit when we see Harry riding buckbeak!Some very bold theme there,though it's probably not the scene it's supposed to go with.Some creepy ToD style underscore too!On another note,it seems Williams re-recorded Hedwig's theme only slightly altered.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Yeah, that was probably Lumos! (Hedwig's Theme) if those track titles are anythign to go by. I'm so excited at the moment! Off to download the preview! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 10, 2004 Author Share Posted May 10, 2004 New music I heard:Commercial break 1:Possibly new orchestration of Hedwig's Theme,followd by a playful woodwind motif(the kind we speculated could score a snowbal fight)Commercial break2:Bumbling version of SWTWC(in the same vein as Gilderoy Lockheart),probably to underscore the amusing Riddikulus charm teaching scenes.PoA Preview:1)SWTWC chorus song version,orchestrated like Diagon Alley2)Furious version of the Nimbus 2000 theme(seems louder than previous versions)3)music that resembles that of the Palace Feast scene in ToD(Ah,snake...surprise!).4)Triumphant new theme underscoring Buckbeak flying(sounds like a waltz,and seems intertwined with the SWTWC theme in an orchestral version)5)Hedwig's theme concert version again6)SWTWC orchestral version7)SWTWC chorus version again8)Action cue that sounds like Escape from Venice9)Slower darker version of SWTWC with a wordless choir10)new quirky motif associated with Trelawney(sounds like the scherzo from Fitzwilly)11)creepy underscore12)Lovely middle-eastern sounding oboe and harp passage when they show Hagrid feeding Buckbeak13)creepy wordless choirs again14)Raider's style creepy music.15)Hedwig's theme concert version16)SWTWC song version againK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Wow. I mean . . .WOW. What a preview! I'm loving the dementors, and seeing so much of Buckbeak was an absolute delight. Highlights of the music that I can remember . . . like KM said, SWTWC (aka Double Trouble?) played a major role in the preview. The small ensemble medieval-type performances of the theme were amazing, very unique. And when it showed Buckbeak flying over the lake towards the beginning there was a very triumphant variation of it. Also, I noticed the action-y cue someone mentioned, with the horn bursts, which sounded cool though I couldn't hear it well after that. I can't think of anything else right now . . . could May 25/June 4 be any farther away?!?!EDIT: Excellent list, KM, now I'm going to watch the preview again and listen for it all!!!Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 LOL, you guys are nuts, and I mean that affectionately. Anyhow, I'm definitely anticipating this third HP movie as much as I have any blockbuster since probably AOTC. Here's hoping the film/score combination disappoints far less than that one did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 I'm glad you have high expectations, especially given your lukewarm feelings for the first two scores. Let's hope none of us will be let down! beerchug Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Its 12:30 am, I just got home from B&N, I've got to be up by 7:10, I've got 4 hours of vcr recordings here to watch, and even Alan is seemingly giddy with anticipation. Sunday nights are my worst for insomnia, but damn all of you make me want to try and watch as much as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 10, 2004 Author Share Posted May 10, 2004 And when it showed Buckbeak flying over the lake towards the beginning there was a very triumphant variation of it. I just love it when 10 seconds of music just blows away anything I've heard in the last year and a half.Williams rules!K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Wowsers, I'm watching it right now and it's awesome! I really can't wait now...EDIT: I prefer the vocals to "Double Trouble" as heard on the trailer. I was also disappointed to see the lack of credit to John Williams in the ending credits for the featurette. Perhaps it was cut short before we got to see it, but I need to see his name there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,249 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 PoA Preview:1)SWTWC chorus song version,orchestrated like Diagon Alley2)Furious version of the Nimbus 2000 theme(seems louder than previous versions)3)music that resembles that of the Palace Feast scene in ToD(Ah,snake...surprise!).4)Triumphant new theme underscoring Buckbeak flying(sounds like a waltz,and seems intertwined with the SWTWC theme in an orchestral version)5)Hedwig's theme concert version again6)SWTWC orchestral version7)SWTWC chorus version again8)Action cue that sounds like Escape from Venice9)Slower darker version of SWTWC with a wordless choir10)new quirky motif associated with Trelawney(sounds like the scherzo from Fitzwilly)11)creepy underscore12)Lovely middle-eastern sounding oboe and harp passage when they show Hagrid feeding Buckbeak13)creepy wordless choirs again14)Raider's style creepy music.15)Hedwig's theme concert version16)SWTWC song version againBLOODY Hell!Marian - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 I seriously doubt I've ever looked forward to a John Williams score more than this one... Which could spell disaster. Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 I enjoyed being able to not watch it for 4 hours and then having the ability to download it in 50 seconds. I just watched the preview. I enjoyed hearing the small snippets of music. Now, where is the AOL Listening Party for this???Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajaytee 0 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 I just watched the preview. I enjoyed hearing the small snippets of music. Now, where is the AOL Listening Party for this???NeilI am SO with you on this. I've been checking AOL every day for a glimpse of it, and nada. How can they be so cruel? But all this stuff sounds SO good!! Williams is NOT going to disappoint, stop being so pesamistic people!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Thanx a lot for the notice and tracnscript (sort of) KM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 10, 2004 Author Share Posted May 10, 2004 I enjoyed being able to not watch it for 4 hours and then having the ability to download it in 50 seconds. I downloaded the quicktime version.The sound is reaaaaaaly bad,i can barely hear anything,really.That's why there isn't a flurry of posts about this today.Unless you taped it on VHS you can't hear a thing.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Should've waited for the CD, fools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Not really, there's a very small amount of new score used, as KM said earlier just a teaser. Fool.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 11, 2004 Author Share Posted May 11, 2004 Yes,the coolest thing for me has always been catching a glimpse of a new JW theme in a TV commercial for the film,I remember this happening many times(Hook,JP...),then this rises the excitement about the c.d. even more.K.M.Who liked what he heard last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 I thought the bit that scored the glimpse of Buckbeak's Flight was great. But it was so fast it's hard to tell.When I heard it I was like "Holy cow there it awesome awesome hey where'd it go??"Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 11, 2004 Author Share Posted May 11, 2004 It's seemed like a waltsy theme.Maybe it's Aunt Marge's Waltz,or the ending of Double Trouble.We never know with these preview clips,the music is not usually at the place it appears in the film.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 I kinda hope that's the case, as that music was a clear variation of SWTWC, and I'd like Buckbeak to have a completely new theme.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 11, 2004 Author Share Posted May 11, 2004 I think it's "part" of the SWTWC theme,like Nimbus 2000 is "in" Hedwig's Theme.Buckbeak could be something else,maybe the Egyptian sounding theme near the end.On another note,i'm getting a bit tired with Hedwig's Theme and Nimbus 2000,i hope Williams doesn't use them too much.On the other hand,we still a really rousing version of Harry's Theme,I think Williams didn't go all out with it yet.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 I think it's "part" of the SWTWC theme,after hearing the clips over and over.Buckbeak could be something else,maybe the Egyptian sounding theme near the end. What part of the preview does this underscore?On another note,i'm getting a bit tired with Hedwig's Theme and Nimbus 2000,i hope Williams doesn't use them too much. Agreed. They're both excellent, excellent themes, but it's time to give something new the center stage.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 11, 2004 Author Share Posted May 11, 2004 I think it's "part" of the SWTWC theme,after hearing the clips over and over.Buckbeak could be something else,maybe the Egyptian sounding theme near the end. What part of the preview does this underscore?Wehn we see Hagrid throw a piece of meat at BuckbeakK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart 0 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 From the cast and crew list:Music Editors KEN WANNBERGPETER MYLESMusic Scoring Mixer SHAWN MURPHYOrchestrations CONRAD POPEEDDIE KARAMOrchestra Concertmistress MARCIA CRAYFORDEarly Music Instruments THE DUFAY COLLECTIVEChorus LONDON VOICESChorus Master TERRY EDWARDSChildren's Choir THE LONDON ORATORY SCHOOLChoir Master STEPHEN GRAHL?Double Trouble? includes performance by LONDON SINFONIETTAMusic Recorded & Mixed at ABBEY ROAD STUDIOS, LONDON"A Winter's Spell?Music by John WilliamsLyrics by Cynthia Weil and Jamie Richardson"La Cumparsita"Written by Gerardo Matos RodriguezPerformed by Alfred House OrchestraCourtesy of LaserlightBy arrangement with Source/Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 "La Cumparsita"Written by Gerardo Matos RodriguezPerformed by Alfred House OrchestraCourtesy of LaserlightBy arrangement with Source/QWow, El Harry gets exotico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 11, 2004 Author Share Posted May 11, 2004 "La Cumparsita"Written by Gerardo Matos RodriguezPerformed by Alfred House OrchestraCourtesy of LaserlightBy arrangement with Source/Qwhat the...is that the c.d. credits? if yes: K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Music Scoring Mixer SHAWN MURPHY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,249 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Why, do you know what it is? Perhaps it's good and fits the score.Early Music Instruments THE DUFAY COLLECTIVEInteresting.?Double Trouble? includes performance by LONDON SINFONIETTAMusic Recorded & Mixed at ABBEY ROAD STUDIOS, LONDONCould that be the bit for the trailer?Marian - curious. Under Fire (Jerry Goldsmith) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,249 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Music Scoring Mixer SHAWN MURPHY What!? Murphy? What happened to Rhodes!?Marian - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Maybe this schedule clashed with that of Troy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Maybe this schedule clashed with that of Troy.If so, would it not have been Yared's Troy?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Wow, another song! Too bad "A Winter's Spell" isn't on the soundtrack, if the tracklisting we have is indeed accurate. I wonder what part of the film it's for. By the way, shouldn't there be an official press release for the soundtrack out by now?Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,249 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Maybe this schedule clashed with that of Troy.If that's the cause, he'd probably lose a lot of my respect...but before I make any false accusations, I'll wait until I hear the score on Thursday.Marian - doubting it will be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 I have no problem with Shawn Murphy. Or Simon Rhodes, it makes no real diffrence to me. Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Get those ears fixed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 11, 2004 Author Share Posted May 11, 2004 WTF is a Concertmistress?K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Who ever the conductor shags during the break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskobolus 3 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 WTF is a Concertmistress?K.M.In a symphony orchestra i think it's the first violinist if the player is female (concertmaster if male) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 I have no problem with Shawn Murphy. Or Simon Rhodes, it makes no real diffrence to me.Same here. It's nitpicking.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 11, 2004 Author Share Posted May 11, 2004 It matters to Marian on his 30,000$ sound system,where only he can tell the difference .Seriously I hope the bass is not too muddled.On A.I. it's terrible(Abandonned in the Wooods)K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishCal24 0 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Shawn Murphy's recent mix for Howard's Peter Pan score sounded great, though. Perhaps he's finally gotten himself some hearing aids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,249 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Same here. It's nitpicking.If that's nitpicking, we could all just as well take a Minidisc recorder to the theatre and record the score there instead of getting the CD... :roll: Taylor adds the following:Looks like Williams has finally ditched Simon Rhodes (mixer on HP1 and 2) for his old collaborator Shawn Murphy who is likely to provide a score with much more clarity than Rhodes.Clarity, eh? I must've been buying faulty Murphy-discs for years...But the bit about Pan sounds promising...perhaps he HAS recovered or something. He certainly was one of the greats, but that stopped after Summon the Heroes.Marian - hoping. Myst III: Exile (Jack Wall) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishCal24 0 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 "La Cumparsita"Written by Gerardo Matos RodriguezPerformed by Alfred House OrchestraCourtesy of LaserlightBy arrangement with Source/Qwhat the...is that the c.d. credits? if yes: K.M.This isn't from the C.D. credits, it's from the film's end credits. I'd say it's most likely source music, perhaps heard duing the Leaky Cauldron sequence. As for the speculation that "A Winter's Spell" won't be included on the album if the current track listing is accurate, I'd remind everyone of the track "Christmas at Hogwarts" from the first soundtrack which included the Christmas carol. This new song could very well be included in a track by another name as well. While I'm not certain what a Concertmistress is, Marcia Crayford was also listed as such on the first soundtrack, so I'd assume PoA is performed the same group of musicians, more or less. The strange thing is there's no Orchestra contractor listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 11, 2004 Author Share Posted May 11, 2004 [. The strange thing is there's no Orchestra contractor listed.It's because it's all in synthesisers,as the trailers indicated. K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 If that's nitpicking, we could all just as well take a Minidisc recorder to the theatre and record the score there instead of getting the CD... Oh yeah cause there's really that much difference in quality when you have different mixer. Hey that's fine if you have better ears or something, but I really don't don't care who mixes it (at least I haven't heard anything that has made me care so far). It's nitpicking for me, but if you can tell the difference then you're entitled to care.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 If that's nitpicking, we could all just as well take a Minidisc recorder to the theatre and record the score there instead of getting the CD... Oh yeah cause there's really that much difference in quality when you have different mixer. Hey that's fine if you have better ears or something, but I really don't don't care who mixes it (at least I haven't heard anything that has made me care so far). It's nitpicking for me, but if you can tell the difference then you're entitled to care.Ray, there are some huge differences. If you want to hear differences in mixes, can I suggest listening to the Anthology mix of "Hyperspace" from The Empire Strikes Back and the SE mix of it. Note the differences. That shows what can happen with a different mixer.Murphy's albums lately have presented a wildly unfocused orchestra that is not very distinct. A.I. has a piano the size of the recording hall. It's not very natural. But I'll wait until I can hear this album.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 The Producer is almost invariably the one who decides the sound of the recording, mixer/engineer are but assistants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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