Tallguy

At 3:00 so you don't have to suffer through... Whatever that was? You can skip right ahead. It's super easy, barely an inconvenience. (I loved like the first three HISHEs.)

I've never listened to it. It's quite good. The beginning sounds like Firefly.

Is that a TARDIS console behind her?

I think this was the first time I ever looked at the beginnings of this thread! WOW! Hee hee hee. Anyway, I came here to make everyone feel old in a DIFFERENT way. At this point the only Doctors I had seen other than Tom Baker were in magazines and The Five Doctors. Here in the States we hadn't even seen the costume yet. I was just taking my first steps into the ridiculousness that is fandom. I think this is probably right around the fortieth anniversary of my first convention as well! (Yup. April 20–22, 1984!)

I never understood why he didn't find the fame that some of his SCTV cast mates did.

This is the sort of thing where I ask "What did you think of the first one?" IMHO if you didn't like the first one then the second is largely more of the same and so what did you expect? But then there were people who loved Batman Forever but found Batman and Robin a rubber nipple too far. I have never understood this, myself. Whereas the third Ant-Man jettisons a bunch of the tone and the characters from the first two and strikes off to something else. You might like 1 and 2 (I did) and still hate 3. (Or at least find it almost entirely forgettable.) But hey, Endgame is good! Can't imagine you're going to enjoy Captain Marvel. I did and I liked the second one even more.

Yeah, it's not a small ask. And I think the biggest missing piece would be that Jerry won't tinker with it to make it perfect.

So how do people handle Year on a soundtrack? I think the answer is obvious (year of the film with some exceptions) but I often get imported metadata that uses the year that the expansion is published. So Top Gun, rather than 1986 will say 2024. If it's a film original score I use the film's year no matter when the release. All four of my Star Trek: The Motion Picture releases say 1979. But if it's a re-recording I go with the year it is released rather than the film.

How does that happen and how much does it cost?

At a total guess I'm figuring that some of this was driven by how the rights for the original tracks worked. It can't be an accident that we got the latest configuration of the album on disc 2. And that none of the disc 1 tracks have vocalists that have to be paid. (I'm sure it's not even cost as much as writing up new agreements.) It's been a while since I've seen the film and I never payed attention to the music in terms of song / song w/o vocals / score before. But unless I'm totally misremembering there is a fair amount of the film were the songs play w/o vocals. Danger Zone only plays with lyrics in the opening scene, right? Yes, the irksome ones are the ones where the songs play with DIFFERENT vocals (not the lyrics) than the album tracks. (Take My Breath Away.) And those are not represented here. I suppose I'll have to watch the film again soon.

I do need to finish this. They took some big swings but two or three episodes in it was very unsatisfying. The most serious Nick Fury that we ever saw was probably Winter Soldier and he was a lot closer to Marvels Fury than Secret Invasion Fury.

I never sort by composer / artist. I gather I'm in the minority on this. Because every player / organizer I've ever encountered immediately tries to present my music to me this way by default.

I lost track of the post-Star Wars (A New Hope if you must) comics. But however many I read were tremendously enjoyable. I even really enjoyed the Darth Vader series. If someone was ever able to write something that felt like Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker were the same person that would be the best thing ever.

I haven't gotten to see the new Ghostbusters but I enjoyed the last one immensely. Someone is going to have to convince me that the new GvK brings something that the last one didn't have. Because I hated that film. I'm perfectly willing to be proven wrong about the new one. I like liking movies.

Pretty much this. If we could have heard the "real" cue of Body Meld that Jerry actually completed and recorded. I'm guessing / assuming that this was demoed to Wise and it was decided to go in another direction. The conceptual gratification of having Ilia's theme "completed" is powerful. And I'm sure with a real Goldsmith orchestra that blasting statement of Ilia would have blown us out of our chairs. I wonder if Wise thought the Ilia treatment was too sentimental, too old fashioned? And of course what @Falstaft said. It's just perfect. It still brings back all of the Vejur cues but rather than mystery it plays with a kind of kinetic optimism. It feels like the previous score "unwinding". That statement of the Enterprise / Star Trek theme at the end is amazing in both versions. Of course even The Meld is dialed out of the film at this point. Well, from 1:47 to 2:05. I know I'm supposed to hate every time Jerry's music gets clipped, but I actually love the shot of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy fleeing the Meld without music.

TBH, The Enterprise was not an instantly life changing experience but neither was it a slow burn. I got the LP quite some time after seeing the film. And the Klingon Battle probably made more of an impression on me in the film. Also I listened to the LP program this evening and The Enterprise has lost none of its charm and appeal for me.

Extra points for the Jaws game! I loved that stupid little shark!

I may have been one of the only people who was excited for Andor just based on the premise. I loved Rogue One.

I'm so jealous. Hey, @Yavar Moradi did you ever say what Steiner cue you thought was as good as Jerry? (I'm on my phone so it's harder to look.)

Did anybody EVER ask that about a western or a detective show or a WWII movie? The POINT is to entertain me in a Star Warsy setting where I enjoy the story and the characters. If you can manage some banterish dialogue that would be swell too. I don't need lightsabers but some space flight scenes would be groovy.

Well, I'm having a Guinness anyway. Yes, that's what I should drink when I listen to Star Wars or Lawrence of Arabia.

I have a house full of guests and nobody even told me that it had shown up. Yes, it was a bit on the fly. What kind of beer did Quint drink?

This is absolutely true. I think a lot of this comes from Wrath of Khan and Eddie Murphy. The most refreshing thing about SNW's Kirk is that they realize that being SMART is a big part of the character. (Well, in season 2 they did anyway.) It's Enterprise. Who else would they have put? The only person anyone would have heard of is Scott Bakula. With TOS you have a choice of legends for different reasons. Looking at the series widgets on Paramount+ TNG, VOY, ENT, and Disco have Captains. TAS, SNW, and LDS have crews. TOS and DS9 just have the ships. Really. Kirk and Spock. Picard and Data. Sisko and Kira. Janeway and Seven. Archer and T'Pol. Burnham and Saru. Pike and Spock. (Or Pike and Number One.) Mariner and Boimler. IS THAT SO HARD?!? If you want to tell me that the marketing department had put together an ALL KIRK, ALL THE TIME poster but then the Disco / SNW showrunners came in and said "Hey, hey, hey now. Kirk? Seriously? We need to back all the way off of that right now." then I'll put the blame at the feet of nuTrek. Otherwise it's just the marketing dweebs. nuTrek not only brought back the proto Star Trek captain, but they also brought back Jimmy T. Great Bird, yes! I'm embarrassed for my own self!

Maybe today I'll even get to listen to it!

These are becoming quite the Rorschach test these days. There was a flap over last year's Star Trek Day banners because they didn't include Shatner. The reasons for leaving him out aren't totally out of whack, IMHO. If you're picking one person to represent TOS and you have the choice of Kirk OR Spock then you definitely go with Spock. Shatner's Kirk is a legend. Nimoy's Spock is an icon. IIRC some banners got rid of Shatner, Nimoy, AND Mount, going with Peck for Spock taking the SNW spot and Uhura taking over for TOS. It's not about erasing Shatner's Kirk for being "problematic" but it is about marketing the current shows and "balancing" the demographics. So now we have this poster from Variety. There are 84 representation of various characters. 57 characters total. Well. Shatner (not Kirk, SHATNER) appears FIVE TIMES. Patrick Stewart appears three times (once as Locutus). Leonard Nimoy, Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, Brent Spiner, LeVar Burton, Jonathan Frakes, and Michael Dorn all appear twice. Kate Mulgrew, Jack Quaid, and Tawny Newsome appear in live action and animated. Characterwise, Kirk appears EIGHT times. Spock five. Uhura three. Sulu three. (Every Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Sulu, and Uhura are here. But only one Chekov!). Picard has three. Boimler, Data, Janeway, Khan, LaForge, Mariner, McCoy, Riker, Scott, and Worf all appear twice. As for shows, TOS gets 18, 11 from the movies. TNG gets 13, 5 from the movies, with an additional 6 from Picard. JJ-Trek gets 14! . Prodigy gets 7! SNW gets 6. (Unless we count live action Boimler and Mariner as LDS then it gets 4.) Lower Decks gets 5. (Or 7!) DS9 gets 5. Discovery might have Burnham and Oscar Winning Actress and Future Star of Section 31 Michelle Yeoh big and prominent but the show only gets 3 characters. (Booker over Saru? Are they insane?) And Voyager and Enterprise each get 3. Of the cast from the opening credits of each show we are missing: TOS Chekov(!), Beverly Crusher (but we got Jack for some reason), and Deanna Troi from TNG. Dax (either one), Bashir, and Jake Sisko from DS9. Chakotay, Torres, Paris, Kes, Neelix, The Doctor, and Kim from VOY. T'Pol, Phlox, Sato, and Tucker from ENT. Saru, Tyler, Stamets, Tilly, Lorca, and Culber from Disco. Chapel, La'an, Ortegas, M'Benga, and Hemmer from SNW. (They have the tertiary race of servants from Star Trek: Insurrection, but not Saru or Phlox?) You know, I still haven't read the article.