#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Of course they had multi track tapes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I meant "available to use" multi track tapes. You do know they used the stereo high resolution tranfers from 2013 for this set, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 There is usually no reason to remix a score from multitrack elements when the original stereo (or LCR or 5.1) mix survives. Especially a perfect one like Shawn Murphy's mix of Jurassic Park. Remixing instead of using the original stereo mix is how you end up with an inferior product like Intrada's version of Cliffhanger. Neil Bulk wisely used the original stereo mix for the LLL version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 37 minutes ago, phbart said: I meant "available to use" multi track tapes. You do know they used the stereo high resolution tranfers from 2013 for this set, right? Of course I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, Jay said: There is absolutely no reason to remix a score from multitrack elements when the original stereo mix survives. Especially a perfect one like Shawn Murphy's stereo mix of Jurassic Park. Remixing instead of using the original stereo mix is how you end up with an inferior product like Intrada's version of Cliffhanger. Neil Bulk wisely used the original stereo mix for the LLL version. Maybe. But for "The Lost World", you heard MM saying that they had to use the multi track tapes because the stereo one was unusable (side note: a 1997 tape already in this condition is somewhat frightening to me). I can't imagine the stereo mix, in proper conditions, sounding any better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 That's not what he said about The Lost World actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 25 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Of course I do. Of course. So I'll stay in course, then. 17 minutes ago, Jay said: That's not what he said about The Lost World actually. It's kind of ambiguous, actually. He says the multi track tapes they used had a 5.1 mix and a stereo mix as well. Now, by saying "I ended up using THAT as source", I interpreted the "that" as "the former" (5.1 mix), and not "the latter" (stereo mix), otherwise he could've said "this" instead of "that". Go to 1:01:21 from the youtube video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 55 minutes ago, phbart said: (side note: a 1997 tape already in this condition is somewhat frightening to me) The key to archiving this stuff is also maintaining it. These days, it's all digital. 20 years ago, master tapes are discarded in a warehouse somewhere and deteriorate because it's background music for a movie. We may run into problems at some point down the line when they can actually release this music to a niche audience clamoring for it, but they seem to figure out how to repair the damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Just do a re-recording. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, phbart said: It's kind of ambiguous, actually. He says the multi track tapes they used had a 5.1 mix and a stereo mix as well. Now, by saying "I ended up using THAT as source", I interpreted the "that" as "the former" (5.1 mix), and not "the latter" (stereo mix), otherwise he could've said "this" instead of "that". Go to 1:01:21 from the youtube video. You're overthinking this. He used the stereo mix from the 1" tape because the stereo mix on the 1/2" tape was deteriorating . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 28 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Just do a re-recording. Problem solved. Or don't let the composer decide what gets released and what gets locked in a facility to deteriorate. No one should have that kind of power. Just release it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Jay said: You're overthinking this. He used the stereo mix from the 1" tape because the stereo mix on the 1/2" tape was deteriorating . Nah. I smoked marijuana yesterday. I think I'm still a little high... and still a little philosophical too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Evil-Lyn said: Or don't let the composer decide what gets released and what gets locked in a facility to deteriorate. No one should have that kind of power. Just release it all. Guess who'd give this comment a thumb down, if it was possible... Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 8 hours ago, phbart said: Nah. I smoked marijuana yesterday. I think I'm still a little high... and still a little philosophical too. You and me both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I also went to see Darren Aronofsky's "Mother!" that same day. Dangerous combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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