publicist 4,643 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Richard could be dead and buried by then. Get it asap! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 On 25 January 2017 at 7:05 AM, Rose Dawson said: We need a new version of Congo that is properly mastered. Oh dear, what was wrong with Congo? Oh, I also wouldn't mind if someone released Damnation Alley (on it's own - are the missing synths a problem?) and The Reincarnation of Peter Proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Intrada's Congo is fine. It's not an important enough score to redo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 9 hours ago, JTWfan77 said: Oh, I also wouldn't mind if someone released Damnation Alley (on it's own - are the missing synths a problem?) and The Reincarnation of Peter Proud. Now you're talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 10 hours ago, JTWfan77 said: Oh dear, what was wrong with Congo? Some loudness war issue. Not that I care since I just listen to the OST anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 What are special labels like La-La Land and Intrada going to do, when there are just Varese titles left. Will they probably buy the licences from Varese to do at least a few new Goldsmith titles or will we have to wait for Varese slowly releasing the rest of uncompleted Goldsmith scores over several decades? Or are there any scores like Jaws 2 that can be completed by another label although the OST is a Varese title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Jaws 2 is MCA, Varése just sublicensed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Varese never owned Jaws 2 in perpetuity. The LP first came out on MCA Records, they just did a CD later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 On 1.2.2017 at 1:25 PM, Jay said: Varese never owned Jaws 2 in perpetuity. The LP first came out on MCA Records, they just did a CD later. So - is there any Jerry Goldsmith CD by Varese which was earlier produced by another label? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 THE OMEN, on vinyl, was owned by (I assume) Fox, and DAMIEN:OMEN II and ALIEN had CD releases by Sliva Screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 17 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: So - is there any Jerry Goldsmith CD by Varese which was earlier produced by another label? Yes, of course. http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/composerdiscography.php?composerid=27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 On 28 January 2017 at 11:44 PM, Daniel Clamp said: Some loudness war issue. Not that I care since I just listen to the OST anyway. Oh no, not the dreaded brickwalling issue?! Did Eric Labson master that one too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Jay said: Yes, of course. http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/composerdiscography.php?composerid=27 Yea, but non of the 90s' titles - too bad. Varese should hurry up or at least sell a few licences to other labels - will they do? - doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Nah, Townson won't license them out to others. He'll get around to expanding them all himself eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 So - one day, when Intrada, La-La Land etc. are done with all titles available for them, we'll have to wait for Varese slowly and gradually expanding the remaining titles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 Apparently, LLL hinted at "The Swarm"! Any other clues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Good. Let's hope that it improves on the, frankly shabby, Prometheus release? Also, any chance of a 2-disc set, featuring the OST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Shabby? It sounds great and is complete.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Isn't The Swarm out of print? I would not mind a re-release since I don't own it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 44 minutes ago, publicist said: Shabby? It sounds great and is complete.. It sounds like it was recorded underwater, and the booklet is pitiful. It's not quite complete. Having said that, it is an absolutely essential purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Maybe you talk about the bootleg but the Prometheus sounds as pristine as the LP without the noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I am talking about the Prometheus release. How can the Prometheus sound like the LP, since it was recorded in a completely different studio, by a completely different orchestra, and on a completely different continent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Except that it wasn't. There was no special LP recording for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 6 hours ago, Incanus said: Isn't The Swarm out of print? I would not mind a re-release since I don't own it. Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 Is "The Swarm" a great Goldsmith soundtrack or is it one of those casually composed scores, like "U.S. Marshals" or "Executive Decision"? I'm asking because I know four of his scores from 1978 and they're all great, so there has to be at least one less ambitious score. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 It's a fantastic and inventive score for an awful movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Magic and The Boys from Brazil aren't top shelf Goldsmith for me, so there's room for a third great Goldsmith score in 1978 in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 20 hours ago, publicist said: Except that it wasn't. There was no special LP recording for this. According to Jerry Goldsmith Online (not to mention my ears!) it was, and there is. FFI, please see JGO > Soundtracks > The Swarm > previous release(s) > WB LP re-recording, 1978. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 FSM cleared that up in their buyer's guide. A lot of scores around that time were re-recorded so it was assumed but apparently Goldsmith just edited down his LA sessions for the LP. Also i am a rather exacting headphone listener and both releases feature the same studio characteristics not to mention certain brass flubs like in 'The Bees Arrive'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 16 hours ago, Stefancos said: It's a fantastic and inventive score for an awful movie! That is our Jerry! 16 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: Magic and The Boys from Brazil aren't top shelf Goldsmith for me, so there's room for a third great Goldsmith score in 1978 in my book. ?! It's another great question: What's the best year of Jerry Goldsmith, regarding quantity and quality of his scores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Without a hint of a shadow of a doubt, it's 1978! 16 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: Magic and The Boys from Brazil aren't top shelf Goldsmith for me, so there's room for a third great Goldsmith score in 1978 in my book. MAGIC might not be "top shelf", but TBFB is absolutely stunning, and, whatever way you slice it, a major work. Marian...oh, fuck it (punches computer screen). 1 hour ago, publicist said: FSM cleared that up in their buyer's guide. A lot of scores around that time were re-recorded so it was assumed but apparently Goldsmith just edited down his LA sessions for the LP. Also i am a rather exacting headphone listener and both releases feature the same studio characteristics not to mention certain brass flubs like in 'The Bees Arrive'. I hear what you're saying, Pub, but I'm still not convinced, for two reasons: 1) I seem to recall seeing the credit "Performed by the National Philharmonic Orchestra" on the LP sleeve, and 2) I was under the impression that JG recorded this as a "job lot", in England, , along with TBFB, and CAPRICORN ONE. Either way, it's a fantastic score!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 You are mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Considerably less! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 I think Magic is one of his best scores - each track is different, little repetitions, a wonderfully inventive instrumentation, great harmonies and chord successions and a brilliant and disturbing transition from beautiful to terrifying music - a very elaborated work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 No slouching in the 1975 - 1983 period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 14 hours ago, Richard said: MAGIC might not be "top shelf", but TBFB is absolutely stunning, and, whatever way you slice it, a major work. Marian...oh, fuck it (punches computer screen). I used to love the waltz, so I was excited when the Intrada came out, but it turns out I never listened to it a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 5 hours ago, publicist said: No slouching in the 1975 - 1983 period. Well, it is not difficult to be no slouching of this period. 21 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: I used to love the waltz, so I was excited when the Intrada came out, but it turns out I never listened to it a lot. TBfB is great, but honestly it is hard to listen to. It took me a lot of time until I could fully enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: I used to love the waltz, so I was excited when the Intrada came out, but it turns out I never listened to it a lot. That's Great Train Robbery for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 The main theme is catchy but the rest is forgettable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 8 hours ago, Stefancos said: That's Great Train Robbery for me. Don't... tempt me, Stefan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 The concert track was better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 It's light and breezy. That seldom goes too well in our little niche, also 'Fierce Creatures' (if we go by the same composer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Fierce Creatures is a lot more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 27, 2017 Author Share Posted March 27, 2017 I didn't take into consideration: It's the 20th anniversary of "Air Force One" and "L.A. Confidential" and the 30th anniversary of "Lionheart" (additionally the 25th anniversary of "Medicine Man"). I mean, our expectations of "The Omen" last year became true. I predict it will be at least one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 La-La Land's output of Goldsmith was very poor for the last years. They've either released some very old western scores or reissued some stuff of Intrada or Varese. Are they working on something great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 Well, there it is and it couldn't be more superfluous. "Poltergeist II - The Fifth Incarnation" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Display Name 60 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 It's not superfluous if you haven't got the Kritzerland 2-disc-set! It's even cheaper despite 3-discs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Exactly right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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