#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 And after that he went to Washington DC and rubbed his genetalia all over the Lincoln memorial. But not before reshaping the head to more closely resemble Screech from Saved By The Bell!http://www.avclub.com/article/steven-soderbergh-posts-his-110-minute-recut-2001--213842?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 He has greatly improved yet another film! I can't wait to see what he does with Star Wars, Gone with the Wind, and The Wizard of Oz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,337 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I have not seen it and I'm not going to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 He got rid of 50 minutes worth? Must be the awful Stargate scene. Hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Interestingly, he uses every single shot in the film. He just reduces them to a fraction of their time. As he says, "why do we have to sit through all that long stuff? i maked it work gooder by cutting everything faster. faster, faster, faster. also, i had dave take his miniskirt off for hal."I find it curious that he sees himself giving "master classes" in editing for young filmmakers, and yet can't use capital letters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Maybe he was just drunk when he was cutting it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 The opening of this thing looks like the offal of a film student trying really hard to be avant garde. It doesn't work. At all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 What a load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 He cut the entire sequence aboard the space station out—except the shot of him logging in when he first arrives (the only dialogue in the movie so far). So the ship lands, he does the voice imprint ID . . . and suddenly he's on his way to the moon. WHAT?!? Were we planning on hitting any of the story along the way here? What's the point of showing him aboard the station for 60 seconds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 This will be watched by thousands simply because Soderbergh did this edit.Had it been done by some YouTube neck beard no one would have bothered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Maybe he was just drunk when he was cutting it?I beg you, Soderbergh.Please don't be drunk when you recut The Wizard of Oz.Or listen to Pink Flyod while you're drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 He's replaced the continuation of the celebratory Strauss waltz with more strange Ligeti music for the trip to the moon. Having removed all indications of why they're going to the moon (and why the hell they stopped off at the space station to begin with, other than to "log in"), this turns the mood ominous and foreboding without letting us know what might have changed between stops.Then he shows us the photographer taking pictures at the moon base, just before the press conference . . . but then doesn't show the press conference. It cuts straight to the shuttle heading across the moonscape. So that's what all that weird music was foreboding? A guy taking pictures in a room on the moon?Also, Soderbergh cuts in a CU shot of Hal's eye constantly (including during the Dawn of Man sequence, which makes zero sense). Why? Your guess is as good as mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 So is this guy becoming the Shia LaBeouf of directors? Doing weird and stupid shit for no apparent reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Shia is brilliant! He brought performance art to a new level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 So is this guy becoming the Shia LaBeouf of directors? Doing weird and stupid shit for no apparent reason?Not quite. He still hasn't put a paper bag over his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Pilgrim obviously don't get it. You don't put a paper bag over your head for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Pilgrim obviously don't get it. You don't put a paper bag over your head for no reason.That's correct. You first have to be not famous anymore, which implies that you were once famous before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 True. I am an artless fanboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Shia engages in seemingly random actions, which all have a clearly defined purpose. But like Kubrick refuses to explain them, giving the recipient the freedom of interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 That post made me vomit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Visigot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Is this gonna turn into another 3-page pissing contest?Do you two need a time-out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I think you might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Hey, now. I'm not the one arguing the merits of the organ as a scoring instrument in Interstellar before diving into personal jabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 No one made any earnest personal jabs, so you can safely dismount your high horse, pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Whoa, now. Don't turn this on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 SIGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Did you attend the Monty Python of writing what you're doing?"Look, if he was dying, he wouldn't have bothered to carve 'Aaaauuuggghhhh'. He'd just say it."Sorry if I came off as haughty to you.White flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 So there's that.Ultimately, he only did two things: he cut out nearly all human interaction from the early scenes in orbit and on the moon (aside from some useless banter about space sandwiches), and he cut in HAL's eye constantly from beginning to end—including interrupting the final shot of the film, where the Starchild looks down on Earth, with one last peek at that red eye. I can only assume the first change was meant to remove all information about what was going on with the Earth monolith until it's revealed to Dave after HAL's disconnection, making it (I suppose) something of a surprise. But that reveal is only a few, broad lines about their discovery. Nothing of significance or importance. So you never really find out what the hell the whole thing's about. (And if you want to make it a reveal in that manner, why show any of the flight between the Earth and the moon? Just go straight from the ape throwing the bone in the air to the first shot of Discovery.)The result of the latter change was to make it look like a computer built during the early 21st century had something to do with man's evolution on earth, the coming of the monoliths to the solar system, and Dave's experiences on the other side of the galaxy/universe. This is perhaps the single dumbest idea in the history of cinema, but there's no other conclusion that could be drawn from this, what with giving it equal time with the Starchild at the end.Someone who had never seen 2001 wouldn't have a clue what was going on, and would undoubtedly find this version unbearably bizarre and boring. As someone who has seen it many times, the changes made no sense whatsoever, and I found it unbearably bizarre and pretentious. Not boring, necessarily, since it does reduce the length of the film (though for no good reason whatsoever).Why the hell would Soderbergh stop making good films to start ruining better films. . . ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,366 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Why the hell would Soderbergh stop making good films to start ruining better films. . . ?And there's the question of the day!I'm sure he'll return to directing eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Let's have a 6 page debate on this one guys, we can do it. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 When is the next Star Wars 7 trailer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Isn't there an Ocean's Eleven TV series coming soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 When is the next Star Wars 7 trailer?When the Mouse feels like releasing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I think I'll recut one of his films . . . see how he likes it. . . .When is the next Star Wars 7 trailer?After Soderbergh finishes having his way with the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I'm afraid he won't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Do a 240 minute recut of The Limey with Sex, Lies And Videotapes edited in at random monents as a sort of external narrative framework Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 With Traffic in there, too. And HAL's eye cut in throughout to represent the video camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 HAL can be a representation of the audience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 HAL can be a representation of the audience!It can only be attributable to human error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Who will rid me of this meddlesome director? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 HAL can be a representation of the audience!Wide-eyed, catatonic, silent with stupor . . . perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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