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Posted 30 May 2011 - 01:27 PM

SCORE: - THEME - The Force Theme

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Credit for the Force Theme Archive i used as the basis for this thread goes to the admin emeritus General Kenobi from the TheForce.net board. Thanks for your work!



Of all the themes and melodies John Williams ever composed the Force Theme is among the very best and famous ones. What makes it truly unique is the fact that it single-handedly is the most developed Williams theme ever.
No other one has gone through so many permutations, has evoked so many different feelings and is still as listenable as at the first day. You strangely don’t get tired of this theme and this is proven by its extensive use throughout the whole Star Wars saga.
The theme appears in all six Star Wars films and pretty much all the Star Wars games. It is also known as Ben Kenobi’s theme and is generally regarded as theme for the Jedi and the Force itself.
In 1977 John Williams himself described the Force Theme (according to the liner notes of the LP release) as follows:
l think of Ben Kenobi's theme as reflecting both him and, also, the Jedi Knights and the Old Republic that he remembers. It also serves to represent the Force, the spiritual-philosophical belief of the Jedi Knights, and the Old Republic. Like the Princess' Theme, it has a fairy tale aspect rather than a futuristic aspect. There is a lot of English horn in Ben's Theme which is often heard under dialogue. At other times, the melody becomes the heroic march of the Jedi Knights.


Some interesting facts:

There is no real developed concert suite of this theme. This is surprising considering its high importance in the Star Wars saga. Nevertheless the theme appears (without its B parts) in some of the other suites. The question remains… Why has John Williams not written a proper concert suite for his most developed theme ever?

For three scenes of high emotional impact John Williams expanded the Force Theme with differing B-parts.
("For my ally is the Force." [Yoda And The Force, 0:58, 64sec]; "I'll meet you at the rendezvous point on Tatooine." [The Rebel Fleet, 0:03, 51sec];
Luke lights Vader's funeral pyre [Light Of The Force, 2:13, 52sec])

I counted 96 appearances in all six Star Wars scores consisting of 1606sec or 26min46sec. (Of course if i may have missed an appearance or two so feel free to contact me...)
In addition there are 15 original theme appearances in the Star Wars Games and Multimedia Projects consisting of 218sec or 3min36sec.





(I used a Force theme archive file from a fellow Star Wars fan as a starting point. The track titles in this list refer to the 1997 SE RCA releases for the Original Trilogy, to the Ultimate Edition for Episode 1 and the OST albums for Episode 2 and 3. Unreleased theme statements remain without corresponding track titles till an official release.
The tracks are listed chronologically in appearance with Filmquote or Description [Track Title, Start time of the theme statement, Duration] - Short musical attributes like Mystical, Forceful,..)


A New Hope (SE): 22 Appearances / 365sec / 6min5sec

Leia programs R2 [Imperial Attack, 2:21, 9sec] – Mystical, Low Key
Binary Sunset [Binary Sunset, 2:21, 31sec] – Epic, Poignant, Full Orchestra
He's nowhere in sight. [Binary Sunset, 3:27, 37sec] – Mystical, Poignant
Come here my little friend. [Attack Of The Sand People, 2:47, 16sec] – Dark
Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time. [Tales Of A Jedi Knight, 0:09, 35sec] – Ethereal, Mystical
The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. [Learn About The Force, 2:11, 16sec] – Ethereal
Learn about the Force, Luke. [Learn About The Force, 3:53, 17sec] – Noble, Low Key
Wait, Luke, it's too dangerous! [Burning Homestead, 0:58, 7sec] – Sad, Epic, Fast and Forceful, Dramatic
Luke finds Owen's and Beru's bodies [Burning Homestead, 1:30, 12sec] – Sad, Epic, Dramatic, Full Orchestra
I want to come with you to Alderaan. [Mos Eisley Spaceport, 0:31, 12sec] – Sad, Thoughtful,
Move along, move along. [Mos Eisley Spaceport, 1:53, 5sec] – Low Key
Chewie, get us outta here! [The Millennium Falcon, 1:54, 9sec] – Forceful, Fast
Looks like an Imperial cruiser. [Imperial Cruiser Pursuit, 2:16, 16sec] – Supportive, In Counterpoint to Action
This is ridiculous. [The Death Star/The Stormtroopers, 1:46, 14sec] – Sad, Slow
Obi-Wan's death [Ben Kenobi's Death, 0:00, 6sec] – Sad, Low Key
I can't believe he's gone. [TIE Fighter Attack, 1:01, 30sec ] – Sad, Low Key
I'm gonna cut across the axis and try and draw their fire. [The Battle Of Yavin: X-wings Draw Fire, 1:11, 7sec] – Militaristic, Epic, Short
This is Red Five, I'm going in. [The Battle Of Yavin: X-wings Draw Fire, 1:31, 11sec] - Militaristic, Epic
Watch your back Luke, watch your back. [The Battle Of Yavin: X-wings Draw Fire, 3:40, 15sec] – Militaristic, Epic, In Counterpoint to Action
I can't shake him. [The Battle Of Yavin: X-wings Draw Fire, 4:01, 15sec] - Militaristic, Epic, In Counterpoint to Action
Use the Force, Luke. [The Battle Of Yavin: Use The Force, 6:49, 13sec] – Ethereal, Epic, Triumphant
Medal Ceremony [The Throne Room, 0:17, 32sec] – Triumphant, Epic, Forceful, Militaristic, Full Orchestra





The Empire Strikes Back (SE): 15 Appearances / 325sec / 5min25sec

Luke gets his lightsaber [The Wampa's Lair, 1:07, 12sec] - Mystical, Dark
You will go to the Dagobah system. [Vision of Obi-Wan, 4:52, 20sec] - Ethereal, Dark
Begin retreat. Fall Back. [The Battle Of Hoth: Beneath The AT-AT, 10:21, 19sec] - Epic, Dramatic, Full Orchestra
Something familiar about this place [Arrival On Dagobah, 4:35, 10sec] - Mystical, Low Key
Much anger in him. Like his father. [Jedi Master Revealed, 0:09, 18sec] – Noble
He is too old. Yes, too old to begin the training. [Jedi Master Revealed, 1:27, 15sec] - Noble
I'm not afraid. [Jedi Master Revealed, 1:49, 8sec] - Low Key
*not used in film [The Training Of A Jedi Knight, 1:06, 14sec] – Mystical, Noble
For my ally is the Force. [Yoda And The Force, 0:58, 64sec] – Ethereal, Noble, Poignant, B - Part
Through the Force, things you will see... [City In The Clouds, 2:23, 11sec] – Mystical
Even Yoda cannot see their fate. [Lando's Palace, 1:42, 13sec] – Ethereal
And I'll return. I promise. [Lando's Palace, 3:17, 31sec] – Poignant, Sad, Full Orchestra
*not used in film [Departure Of Boba Fett, 10:58, 12sec] – Dramatic, Full Orchestra, Forceful, Epic
Leia, hear me... Leia. [Rescue From Cloud City, 3:21, 27sec] – Ethereal, Epic, Dramatic, Full Orchestra
I'll meet you at the rendezvous point on Tatooine. [The Rebel Fleet, 0:03, 51sec] – Playful, Poignant, Epic, Full Orchestra, B - Part




Return Of The Jedi (SE): 19 Appearances / 331sec / 5min31sec

The rancor picks up Luke [The Den Of The Rancor, 5:18, 5sec] – Dramatic, Militaristic
Strong am I with the Force, but not that strong. [The Death Of Yoda, 2:52, 16sec] – Sad, Noble
Your father he is." [The Death Of Yoda, 4:33, 25sec] – Sad, Dark
Luke, the Force runs strong in your family. [The Death Of Yoda, 6:15, 15sec] - Mystical
I can't do it R2 [The Death of Yoda 7:33, 13sec] - Sad, Mystical
*not used in film [Obi-Wan's Revelation, 8:57, 21sec] – Low Key
*not used in film [Obi-Wan's Revelation, 9:45, 14sec] – Low Key, Mystical
Vader's on that ship. [Shuttle Tydirium Approaches Endor, 2:03, 16sec] – Dark
I'm endangering the mission. [Shuttle Tydirium Approaches Endor, 2:41, 18sec] – Dark, Mystical
Luke levitates C3PO [The Levitation, 0:19, 20sec] – Mystical, Ethereal
3PO tells of Obi-Wan/Vader duel [Threepio's Bedtime Story, 1:56, 4sec] – Low Key
Leia, do you remember your mother--your real mother? [Brother And Sister, 0:29, 17sec] – Low Key, Poignant, Sad
You're wrong, Leia. You have that power too. [Brother And Sister, 4:50, 10sec] – Low Key
Obi-Wan has taught you well. [Battle Of Endor II: The Duel Begins, 1:20, 7sec] – Noble, Low Key
There is no conflict. [Battle Of Endor II: The Duel Begins, 2:16, 7sec] – Noble, Low Key
I am a Jedi. [Battle Of Endor II: The Dark Side Beckons, 6:30, 9sec] – Noble, Dark
Vader lifts the Emperor [Battle Of Endor II: The Emperor's Death, 9:09, 10sec] – Dark, Epic, Full Orchestra, Dramatic
*not used in film [Light Of The Force, 1:19, 52sec] - Sad, Poignant, Full Orchestra, Epic, Forceful
Luke lights Vader's funeral pyre [Light Of The Force, 2:13, 52sec] – Sad, Poignant, Full Orchestra, B - Part




Due to extensive editing and non complete soundtrack releases of the Prequels this is just a preliminary list which is subject to change as soon as the complete scores are released.
Tracked statements are with one exception not included in this list.



The Phantom Menace (UE): 11 Appearances / 143sec / 2min23sec

Qui-Gon melts the blast doors [Fighting The Destroyer Droids, 1:02, 4sec] – Dramatic, Epic, Full Orchestra
The Force is unusually strong in him. [Shmi And Qui-Gon Talk, 1:38, 27sec] – Poignant
Feel, don't think. [Qui-Gon's Prep Talk, 0:35, 13sec] – Low Key
The life of a Jedi [Anakin is Free, 1:14, 13sec] – Ethereal, Poignant
Don't look back. [Anakin Is Free, 4:48, 13sec] – Ethereal, Poignant, Epic, Full Orchestra
Introducing Obi Wan [Qui-Gon and Darth Maul meet, 1:37, 5sec] - Ethereal
Fear is the path to the dark side. [Anakin's Test, 1:16, 15sec] – Low Key, Mystical
May the Force be with you. [Qui-Gon's Mission, 1:35, 5sec] – Dark
Now this is pod-racing. [The Tide Turns, 0:57, 23sec] – Epic, Militaristic, Triumphant, Full Orchestra, Unique Counterline (Duel of the Fates)
Obi-Wan senses Qui-Gon's lightsaber [The Death Of Darth Maul, 1:51, 14sec] - Dark
What will happen to me now? [Funeral Of Qui-Gon, 0:26, 8sec] – Sad




Attack Of The Clones (OST): 7 Appearances / 110sec / 1min50sec

* not used in film; Palpatine's Plotting [unused, 30sec] - Dark, Mystical, Low Key
Anakin and Padme depart for Naboo [Departing Coruscant, 0:49, 12sec] – Noble
Dangerous and disturbing this puzzle is. [Yoda And The Younglings, 3:10, 9sec] – Sad, Mystical
Anakin, I won't be long. [Return To Tatooine, 3:10, 21sec] - Epic, Poignant, Full Orchestra
Anakin battles Geonosians on the conveyor belt [Confrontation With Count Dooku And Finale, 0:09, 12sec] – Dramatic
Anakin Force-throws droid parts at Geonosians [unreleased, 8sec] – Dramatic, Forceful
She would do her duty. [Love Pledge And The Arena, 7:40, 18sec] – Epic, Dramatic, Full Orchestra




Revenge Of The Sith (OST): 22 Appearances / 332sec / 5min32sec

Approaching the Coruscant Space Battle [Star Wars, The Revenge Of The Sith, 1:38, 27sec] – Militaristic, Epic, Full Orchestra, Forceful
* not used in film [Grievous and the Droids, 3:13, 6sec] – Low Key
Anakin pilots the Invisible Hand through the atmosphere [tracked from The Tide Turns, 0:57, 23sec] – Epic, Militaristic, Triumphant, Full Orchestra, Unique Counterline (Duel of the Fates)
Mourn them, do not [Anakin's Dream, 3:31, 24sec] – Dark, Low Key
Good relations with the Wookiees, I have. [Palpatine's Teachings, 2:59, 14sec] - Dark
Obi-Wan leaves for Utapau [unreleased, 34sec] – Epic, Full Orchestra, Militaristic
Obi-Wan arrives at Utapau [unreleased, 9sec] – Playful, Full Orchestra
Obi-Wan riding the Boga [General Grievous, 0:38, 8sec] – Dark, Percussive
Anakin jumps in an airspeeder [unreleased, 9sec] – Dark, Dramatic
Anakin pleads with Mace to spare Palpatine [unreleased, 17sec] – Dark, Dissonant
Yoda finishes killing clone troopers [Enter Lord Vader, 3:43, 6sec] - Dramatic
Obi-Wan/Anakin force push [Anakin vs. Obi-Wan, 3:21, 13sec] – Chorus, Full Orchestra, Dramatic, Epic, Forceful
I have failed you, Anakin. [Battle Of The Heroes, 1:56, 15sec] – Chorus, Full Orchestra, Dramatic, Dark
Obi-Wan arrives at Polis Massa [unreleased, 12sec] – Uplifting, Full Orchestra, Poignant
Padmé dies [The Birth Of The Twins And Padmé's Destiny, 1:54, 5sec] - Sad
Vader's rage [The Birth Of The Twins And Padmé's Destiny, 2:53, 5sec] – Sad, Unique Counter Line (Funeral Theme)
To Tatooine, to his family send him. [unreleased, 14sec] – Poignant
Training I have for you. [unreleased, 15sec] – Mystical
Star Destroyer bridge [unreleased, 8sec] – Sad, Poignant
Arrival at Alderaan [unreleased, 5sec] – String Transition
Obi-Wan gives Luke to Beru [A New Hope and End Credits, 0:51, 28sec] – Poignant, Full Orchestra, Epic
* not used in film [A New Hope and End Credits, 7:04, 35sec] - Triumphant, Epic, Militaristic, Full Orchestra








Appearances in Star Wars Games and Multimedia Projects

Over the years the Force Theme also appeared in several Star Wars games and multimedia projects. Most of them were recorded with full orchestra. Shadows of the Empire counts as the best of the bunch. Composer Joel McNeely recorded about 50 minutes of music with the Royal Scottish National Orchestra and a 150 - piece chorus and incorporated the Imperial March and the Force Theme at appropriate moments.
The Kotor games were praised for their good and versatile music. Jeremy Soule, the composer of Kotor 1, had to use an 8 megabit per second MIDI system. Regardless of the limitations he managed to compose an epic and worthy score with almost exclusively new thematic material. Mark Griskey on the other hand recorded his music for Kotor 2 and both Force Unleashed games with full orchestra. For the Force Unleashed games he decided to include a larger amount of established Williams themes. The Imperial March, the Force Theme, the Rebel fanfare as well as some lesser known Williams material like the Kamino motif all appear throughout the scores.
In 2011 Bioware and Lucasarts released the very ambitious "The Old Republic" MMORPG. For this game a team of composers recorded over 4.5 hours of original music performed by the Skywalker Symphony Orchestra and choir. Mark Griskey once again was one of the Lead composers. The team incorporated several Williams themes like Yoda's Theme or the Force Theme.
The tracks are listed chronologically in appearance with Filmquote or Description [Track Title, Start time of the theme statement, Duration] - Short musical attributes like Mystical, Forceful,..)



Shadows of the Empire (Soundtrack Album): 1 Appearance / 32sec
[Night Skies, 3:10, 32 sec] – Noble, Full Orchestra, Epic


Knights of the Old Republic (Complete Score): 1 Appearance / 19sec
[Bastila Shan’s Theme, 0:50, 19 sec] – Ethereal, Poignant

Knights of the Old Republic II (Complete Score): 1 Appearance / 13sec
[Lightside, 0:00, 13 sec] – Ethereal, Upbeat


The Force Unleashed (Promo): 5 Appearances / 38sec
[General Kota and the Control Room, 2:52, 11sec] – Militaristic, Full Orchestra
[Drexl’s Raiders, 2:18, 5 sec] – Forceful, Dramatic
[Infiltrating the Junk Temple, 1:42, 6 sec] – Militaristic, Full Orchestra
[Maris and the Bull Rancor, 1:50, 13sec] – Percussive, Dark
[Redemption, 1:28, 3 sec] – Low Key, Short

The Force Unleashed II (Promo): 1 Appearance / 24sec
[Discovering Dagobah and the Cave, 6:29, 24sec] – Full Orchestra, Noble


The Old Republic (Promo): 1 Appearance / 6sec
[Tython the Wellspring, 2:49, 6sec] - Poignant, Thematic Variation

The Old Republic (Collector's Edition Soundtrack): 5 Appearances / 1min26sec
[Justice, The Jedi Knight, 1:25, 4sec] - Short Transition
[Justice, The Jedi Knight, 3:57, 7sec] - Militaristic, Dark
[Peace, The Jedi Consular, 0:00, 38sec] - Full Orchestra, Noble
[Peace, The Jedi Consular, 3:15, 31sec] - Full Orchestra, Dark, Mystical
[Peace, The Jedi Consular, 4:00, 6sec] - Dark, Mystical


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Update: Edited to include additional Force Theme statements (Thanks to oierem)
Included parts of JW 1977 liner notes and further explanations for the tracklists
Started to include several Force Theme appearances in Star Wars games and Multimedia projects
Added Force Theme Appearances from the Old Republic game score

#2 indy4

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 04:52 AM

It certainly is one of his most maleable themes, although I don't consider it to be his best. I love the workout it gets in RotS. Some truly inspired variations in that film score.
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Posted 31 May 2011 - 05:29 AM

Wow, really cool thread! I've been wondering how many times this theme has appeared in the whole saga. It is a theme that has always been so close to my heart.

I personally like the haunting, low key statements. Some have given me goosebumps.

My favorites are ANH: reveal that Bens name is obiwan, TPM just before podrace.

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 10:46 AM

A great listing of the appearances of the theme which is perhaps my favourite in the whole SW saga. Williams captured the intangible concept of the mystical energy field and the wisdom of Obi Wan Kenobi so perfectly with his music. Perhaps the testament to the effectiveness of this musical motif is that it alone has been featured in all six films, in the score proper, not just in the main titles like Luke's theme. As you list there are so many wonderful renditions of this theme throuhout the films and I am hard pressed to name my absolute favourite.

Williams to his credit used it to good effect in the Prequels, assigning it to the concept of the Force, the Jedi in general and Obi Wan Kenobi in particular. Especially in Episode III the theme seems to comment on the actions of Obi Wan more than in the previous films, following his departures and arrivals and underscoring his actions more, Williams dropping subtle variations in many places like on the Grievous' ship and when he has arrived to Utapau.

One of the most memorable passages in Episode III is the Force theme that underscores the duel where Anakin and Obi Wan use Force push against eachother. Here Williams' music really IS the Force as without it the whole section of the scene would be without power, the choir and especially the theme making the Force nearly tangible.

Ars superior est vita hominum.

 

"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-

 

I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-


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Posted 02 June 2011 - 12:25 AM

One of my favorite variations is the militaristic one heard after the main titles of RotS. Also the one scoring Obi-Wan's arrival to Utapau (which is officially unreleased).
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Posted 02 June 2011 - 06:43 PM

My favourite variations would be in no particular order


"For my ally is the Force." [Yoda And The Force, 0:58, 64sec] – Ethereal, Noble, Poignant, B - Part
(This version has the great B-part of the theme and is the closest we got to a concert suite)

Approaching the Coruscant Space Battle [Star Wars, The Revenge Of The Sith, 1:38, 27sec] – Militaristic, Epic, Full Orchestra, Forceful
(The greatest action variation of the theme and i remember getting goosebumps in the cinema during that moment)

"Use the Force, Luke." [The Battle Of Yavin: Use The Force, 6:49, 13sec] – Ethereal, Epic, Triumphant
(The orchestration here always gets me, i think the theme never sounded more romantic than here)

Medal Ceremony [The Throne Room, 0:17, 32sec] – Triumphant, Epic, Forceful, Militaristic, Full Orchestra
(For me this still tops the binary sunset version in epicness, i would love to hear it in cinema one time)

"Now this is pod-racing." [The Tide Turns, 0:57, 23sec] – Epic, Militaristic, Triumphant, Full Orchestra, Unique Counterline (Duel of the Fates)
(This is a standout track from TPM and also has the amazing duel of the fates counterline)

"The Force is what gives a Jedi his power." [Learn About The Force, 2:11, 16sec] – Ethereal
(I love this rather low key statement and the ethereal aspect of it with the harp accompaniment)



A great listing of the appearances of the theme which is perhaps my favourite in the whole SW saga. Williams captured the intangible concept of the mystical energy field and the wisdom of Obi Wan Kenobi so perfectly with his music. Perhaps the testament to the effectiveness of this musical motif is that it alone has been featured in all six films, in the score proper, not just in the main titles like Luke's theme. As you list there are so many wonderful renditions of this theme throuhout the films and I am hard pressed to name my absolute favourite.


I think we could call the Force theme the secret main theme of the Starwars Saga ;), which for me makes it even more unfortunate that it still has no own concert suite

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 08:03 AM

No matter what you think of the ROTS, you can't argue the fact the treatment of the Force theme within that score is simply spectacular. Probably the best in the saga.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 10:02 AM

I'm probably alone here, but I dig its treatment in ROTJ the most. i.e. - Death of Yoda, Faking the Code, Father and Son, "I'm a Jedi, like my father before me", Death of the Emperor, and of course - the Funeral Pyre.

While none of them are quite as bombastic or 'epic' as those in ROTS, they strike me as the most poignant. I return to them more than the others.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 11:42 AM

I'm probably alone here, but I dig its treatment in ROTJ the most. i.e. - Death of Yoda, Faking the Code, Father and Son, "I'm a Jedi, like my father before me", Death of the Emperor, and of course - the Funeral Pyre.

While none of them are quite as bombastic or 'epic' as those in ROTS, they strike me as the most poignant. I return to them more than the others.

All the above are wonderful renditions of the Force theme, amoung my favourites too. Especially the Death of the Emperor and the Funeral Pyre.

Ars superior est vita hominum.

 

"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-

 

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 01:52 PM

my favorite version?

Empire Strikes Back:

Rescue from Cloud City / Hyperspace
The "Hear Me Leia" segment, just the warm 80's LSO strings......oh man.....:music:

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The additional passage was interesting but not really something I would consider absolutely essential.


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Posted 10 June 2011 - 08:13 PM

I have mentioned many times over the years the different treatment of the Force between the two trilogies.

In the original trilogy, the Force Theme was treated more as a theme of rememberance. It usually had a very solemn take, wistfully remembering the past glory of the Jedi.

In the prequel trilogy, the Force Theme is more central to the action and utilized as an action motif.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 08:23 PM

SCORE: - THEME - The Force Theme


Of all the themes and melodies John Williams composed this is one of his very best and famous ones. But what makes it truly unique is the fact that it single-handedly is the most developed Williams theme ever.
No other one has gone through so many permutations, has evoked so many different feelings and is still as listenable as at the first day. You strangely don’t get tired of this theme and this is proven by its extensive use throughout the whole Star Wars saga.
The theme appears in all six Star Wars films and pretty much all the Star Wars games. It is also known as Ben Kenobi’s theme and is generally regarded as theme for the Jedi and the Force itself.



Some interesting facts:

There is no real developed concert suite for this theme which is surprising considering its high importance in the Star Wars saga. But the theme appears (without its B parts) in some of the other suites.
The question remains… Why has John Williams not written a proper concert suite for his most developed theme ever?


In three scenes of high emotional level John Williams expanded the Force Theme with differing B-parts. ("For my ally is the Force." [Yoda And The Force, 0:58, 64sec]; "I'll meet you at the rendezvous point on Tatooine." [The Rebel Fleet, 0:03]; Luke lights Vader's funeral pyre [Light Of The Force, 2:13])


I counted 91 appearances in all six Star Wars scores consisting of 1535sec or 25min35sec. (Of course if i may have missed an appearance or two so feel free to contact me...)





(I used a Force theme archive file from a fellow Star Wars fan as a starting point)



A New Hope (SE): 22 Appearances / 365sec / 6min5sec

Leia programs R2 [Imperial Attack, 2:21, 9sec] – Mystical, Low Key
Binary Sunset [Binary Sunset, 2:21, 31sec] – Epic, Poignant, Full Orchestra
"He's nowhere in sight." [Binary Sunset, 3:27, 37sec] – Mystical, Poignant
"Come here my little friend." [Attack Of The Sand People, 2:47, 16sec] – Dark
"Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time." [Tales Of A Jedi Knight, 0:09, 35sec] – Ethereal, Mystical
"The Force is what gives a Jedi his power." [Learn About The Force, 2:11, 16sec] – Ethereal
"Learn about the Force, Luke." [Learn About The Force, 3:53, 17sec] – Noble, Low Key
"Wait, Luke, it's too dangerous!" [Burning Homestead, 0:58, 7sec] – Sad, Epic, Fast and Forceful, Dramatic
Luke finds Owen & Beru's bodies [Burning Homestead, 1:30, 12sec] – Sad, Epic, Dramatic, Full Orchestra
"I want to come with you to Alderaan." [Mos Eisley Spaceport, 0:31, 12sec] – Sad, Thoughtful,
"Move along, move along." [Mos Eisley Spaceport, 1:53, 5sec] – Low Key
"Chewie, get us outta here!"[The Millennium Falcon, 1:54, 9sec] – Forceful, Fast
"Looks like an Imperial cruiser." [Imperial Cruiser Pursuit, 2:16, 16sec] – Supportive, In Counterpoint to Action
"This is ridiculous." [The Death Star/The Stormtroopers, 1:46, 14sec] – Sad, Slow
Obi-Wan's death [Ben Kenobi's Death, 0:00, 6sec] – Sad, Low Key
"I can't believe he's gone." [TIE Fighter Attack, 1:01, 30sec ] – Sad, Low Key
"I'm gonna cut across the axis and try and draw their fire."[The Battle Of Yavin: X-wings Draw Fire, 1:11, 7sec] – Militaristic, Epic, Short
"This is Red Five, I'm going in." [The Battle Of Yavin: X-wings Draw Fire, 1:31, 11sec] - Militaristic, Epic
"Watch your back Luke, watch your back." [The Battle Of Yavin: X-wings Draw Fire, 3:40, 15sec] – Militaristic, Epic, In Counterpoint to Action
"I can't shake him." [The Battle Of Yavin: X-wings Draw Fire, 4:01, 15sec] - Militaristic, Epic, In Counterpoint to Action
"Use the Force, Luke." [The Battle Of Yavin: Use The Force, 6:49, 13sec] – Ethereal, Epic, Triumphant
Medal Ceremony [The Throne Room, 0:17, 32sec] – Triumphant, Epic, Forceful, Militaristic, Full Orchestra





The Empire Strikes Back (SE): 14 Appearances / 315sec / 5min15sec

Luke gets his lightsaber [The Wampa's Lair, 1:07, 12sec] - Mystical, Dark
"You will go to the Dagobah system." [Vision of Obi-Wan, 4:52, 20sec] - Ethereal, Dark
"Begin retreat. Fall Back." [The Battle Of Hoth: Beneath The AT-AT, 10:21, 19sec] - Epic, Dramatic, Full Orchestra
"Much anger in him. Like his father." [Jedi Master Revealed, 0:09, 18sec] – Noble
"He is too old. Yes, too old to begin the training." [Jedi Master Revealed, 1:27, 15sec] - Noble
"I'm not afraid." [Jedi Master Revealed, 1:49, 8sec] - Low Key
*not used in film [The Training Of A Jedi Knight, 1:06, 14sec] – Mystical, Noble
"For my ally is the Force." [Yoda And The Force, 0:58, 64sec] – Ethereal, Noble, Poignant, B - Part
"Through the Force, things you will see..." [City In The Clouds, 2:23, 11sec] – Mystical
"Even Yoda cannot see their fate." [Lando's Palace, 1:42, 13sec] – Ethereal
"And I'll return. I promise." [Lando's Palace, 3:17, 31sec] – Poignant, Sad, Full Orchestra
*not used in film [Departure Of Boba Fett, 10:58, 12sec] – Dramatic, Full Orchestra, Forceful, Epic
"Leia, hear me... Leia." [Rescue From Cloud City, 3:21, 27sec] – Ethereal, Epic, Dramatic, Full Orchestra
"I'll meet you at the rendezvous point on Tatooine." [The Rebel Fleet, 0:03, 51sec] – Playful, Poignant, Epic, Full Orchestra, B – Part




Return Of The Jedi (SE): 18 Appearances / 318sec / 5min18sec

The rancor picks up Luke [The Den Of The Rancor, 5:18, 5sec] – Dramatic, Militaristic
"Strong am I with the Force, but not that strong." [The Death Of Yoda, 2:52, 16sec] – Sad, Noble
"Your father he is." [The Death Of Yoda, 4:33, 25sec] – Sad, Dark
"Luke, the Force runs strong in your family." [The Death Of Yoda, 6:15, 15sec] - Mystical
*not used in film [Obi-Wan's Revelation, 8:57, 21sec] – Low Key
*not used in film [Obi-Wan's Revelation, 9:45, 14sec] – Low Key, Mystical
"Vader's on that ship." [Shuttle Tydirium Approaches Endor, 2:03, 16sec] – Dark
"I'm endagering the mission." [Shuttle Tydirium Approaches Endor, 2:41, 18sec] – Dark, Mystical
Luke levitates C3PO [The Levitation, 0:19, 20sec] – Mystical, Ethereal
3PO tells of Obi-Wan/Vader duel [Threepio's Bedtime Story, 1:56, 4sec] – Low Key
"Leia, do you remember your mother--your real mother?" [Brother And Sister, 0:29, 17sec] – Low Key, Poignant, Sad
"You're wrong, Leia. You have that power too." [Brother And Sister, 4:50, 10sec] – Low Key
"Obi-Wan has taught you well." [Battle Of Endor II: The Duel Begins, 1:20, 7sec] – Noble, Low Key
"There is no conflict." [Battle Of Endor II: The Duel Begins, 2:16, 7sec] – Noble, Low Key
"I am a Jedi." [Battle Of Endor II: The Dark Side Beckons, 6:30, 9sec] – Noble, Dark
Vader lifts the Emperor [Battle Of Endor II: The Emperor's Death, 9:09, 10sec] – Dark, Epic, Full Orchestra, Dramatic
*not used in film [Light Of The Force, 1:19, 52sec] - Sad, Poignant, Full Orchestra, Epic, Forceful
Luke lights Vader's funeral pyre [Light Of The Force, 2:13, 52sec] – Sad, Poignant, Full Orchestra, B-Part




Due to extensive editing and non complete soundtrack releases of the Prequels this is just a preliminary list which is subject to change as soon as the complete scores are released.



The Phantom Menace (UE): 9 Appearances / 125sec / 2min5sec

Qui-Gon melts the blast doors [Fighting The Destroyer Doids, 1:02, 4sec] – Dramatic, Epic, Full Orchestra
"The Force in unusually strong with him." [Shmi And Qui-Gon Talk, 1:38, 27sec] – Poignant
"Feel, don't think." [Qui-Gon's Pep Talk, 0:35, 13sec] – Low Key
"Don't look back." [Anakin Is Free, 4:49, 16sec] – Dramatic, Epic, Full Orchestra, Poignant
"Fear is the path to the dark side." [Anakin's Test, 1:16, 15sec] – Low Key, Mystical
"May the Force be with you." [Qui-Gon's Mission, 1:35, 5sec] – Dark
"Now this is pod-racing." [The Tide Turns, 0:57, 23sec] – Epic, Militaristic, Triumphant, Full Orchestra, Unique Counterline (Duel of the Fates)
Obi-Wan senses Qui-Gon's lightsaber [The Death Of Darth Maul, 1:51, 14sec] - Dark
"What will happen to me now?" [Funeral Of Qui-Gon, 0:26, 8sec] – Sad




Attack Of The Clones (OST): 6 Appearances / 80sec / 1min20sec

Anakin and Padme depart for Naboo [Departing Coruscant, 0:49, 12sec] – Noble
"Dangerous and disturbing this puzzle is." [Yoda And The Younglings, 3:10, 9sec] – Sad, Mystical
"Anakin." "I won't be long." [Return To Tatooine, 3:10, 21sec] - Epic, Poignant, Full Orchestra
Anakin battles Geonosians on the conveyor belt [Confrontation With Count Dooku And Finale, 0:09, 12sec] – Dramatic
Anakin Force-throws droid parts at Geonosians [unreleased, 8sec] – Dramatic, Forceful
"She would do her duty." [Love Pledge And The Arena, 7:40, 18sec] – Epic, Dramatic, Full Orchestra




Revenge Of The Sith (OST): 22 Appearances / 332sec / 5min32sec

Approaching the Coruscant Space Battle [Star Wars, The Revenge Of The Sith, 1:38, 27sec] – Militaristic, Epic, Full Orchestra, Forceful
* not used in film [Grievous and the Droids, 3:13, 6sec] – Low Key
Anakin pilots the Invisible Hand through the atmosphere [tracked from The Tide Turns, 0:57, 23sec] – Epic, Militaristic, Triumphant, Full Orchestra, Unique Counterline (Duel of the Fates)
"Mourn them, do not" [Anakin's Dream, 3:31, 24sec] – Dark, Low Key
"Good relations with the Wookiees, I have." [Palpatine's Teachings, 2:59, 14sec] - Dark
Obi-Wan leaves for Utapau [unreleased, 34sec] – Epic, Full Orchestra, Militaristic
Obi-Wan arrives at Utapau [unreleased, 9sec] – Playful, Full Orchestra
Obi-Wan riding the Boga [General Grievous, 0:38, 8sec] – Dark, Percussive
Anakin jumps in an airspeeder [unreleased, 9sec] – Dark, Dramatic
Anakin pleads with Mace to spare Palpatine [unreleased, 17sec] – Dark, Dissonant
Yoda finishes killing clone troopers [Enter Lord Vader, 3:43, 6sec] - Dramatic
Obi-Wan/Anakin force push [Anakin vs. Obi-Wan, 3:21, 13sec] – Chorus, Full Orchestra, Dramatic, Epic, Forceful
"I have failed you, Anakin." [Battle Of The Heroes, 1:56, 15sec] – Chorus, Full Orchestra, Dramatic, Dark
Obi-Wan arrives at Polis Massa [unreleased, 12sec] – Uplifting, Full Orchestra, Poignant
Padmι dies [The Birth Of The Twins And Padmι's Destiny, 1:54, 5sec] - Sad
Vader's rage [The Birth Of The Twins And Padmι's Destiny, 2:53, 5sec] – Sad, Unique Counter Line (Funeral Theme)
"To Tatooine, to his family send him." [unreleased, 14sec] – Poignant
"Training I have for you." [unreleased, 15sec] – Mystical
Star Destroyer bridge [unreleased, 8sec] – Sad, Poignant
Arrival at Alderaan [unreleased, 5sec] – String Transition
Obi-Wan gives Luke to Beru [A New Hope and End Credits, 0:51, 28sec] – Poignant, Full Orchestra, Epic
* not used in film [A New Hope and End Credits, 7:04, 35sec] - Triumphant, Epic, Militaristic, Full Orchestra



Great list and great theme!
However, you're missing some statements:

ROTJ
-Death of Yoda: "I can't do it R2" (right after Yoda dies)
-Father and Son: "That's why you didn't kill me..."
-Dark Side Beckons: probably it's just me, but I hear a very brief statement of the Force theme right before the Emperor's theme (when Luke cuts Vader's hand). THe horns play the last part of the theme, rising up, as if Luke had won... only to fall down to the Emperor's theme. Anyone agree with that one?

TPM
-Anakin is free: the moment when Qui-Gonn and Anakin talk about the life of a Jedi.

AOTC
-I don't know if you should count tracked versions... in that case, ROTJ has a tracked statement of the Force theme, right before Brother and Sister. And another tracked statement in AOTC, when Anakin decides to go to Tatooine.
-Anyway... the second tracked statement of the Conveyor Belt is the same as "she would do her duty...".
-You're missing ANOTHER unreleased statement, right after Dooku escapes.

ROTS
-Obi-Wan riding the lizard has two versions of the theme in the movie (one of them is tracked, but you should count it as well).
-Palpatine vs. Mace has another statement of the theme... not used in the movie and unreleased.

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 12:37 PM

Thank you for mentioning missed Force Theme statements. I will update my list soon.

Concerning AOTC and ROTS: I think we will first need the complete score releases to be completely sure what theme statements are missing.

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 06:12 PM

It's my favorite John Williams theme and great post Stefan..! ;)
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 07:17 PM

It's my favorite John Williams theme and great post Stefan..! ;)

Stefan? do you not mean SF1_freeze?

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 07:37 PM

How the heck did you post as a guest?

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 07:59 PM

I just...did

Among all the things I have done in my short and pitiful life, becoming an inside joke on JWFAN is the one I'm the least proud of.


The additional passage was interesting but not really something I would consider absolutely essential.


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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:01 PM

Were you logged out?

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:03 PM

I guess

Among all the things I have done in my short and pitiful life, becoming an inside joke on JWFAN is the one I'm the least proud of.


The additional passage was interesting but not really something I would consider absolutely essential.


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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:10 AM

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:13 AM

How did you do that?

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:36 AM

I just logged out and... Posted?

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Wow, yea, its that easy

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 11:38 PM

Updated to include three missing theme statements. Thanks oierem.

Additional info in form of John Williams own description of the Force Theme / Ben's Theme anno 1977 for the LP liner notes.

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 01:14 AM

what was added?

Among all the things I have done in my short and pitiful life, becoming an inside joke on JWFAN is the one I'm the least proud of.


The additional passage was interesting but not really something I would consider absolutely essential.


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Posted 27 September 2011 - 07:41 AM

i can't do it R2 (RotJ); Life of a Jedi (TPM), Introducing Obi Wan (TPM)

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 05:03 PM

Updated: Started to include original (newly composed) Force theme statements appearing in the several Star Wars games

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 05:17 PM

I thought the Shadows of the Empire "soundtrack" by McNeely wasn't actually composed for the game?

Among all the things I have done in my short and pitiful life, becoming an inside joke on JWFAN is the one I'm the least proud of.


The additional passage was interesting but not really something I would consider absolutely essential.


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Posted 07 December 2011 - 05:54 PM

You are right, i will correct that ;)

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 08:33 PM

Updated with appearances in the Old Republic game score.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 01:17 AM

Can't believe i forgot to include the "Something familiar about this place" [Arrival On Dagobah, 4:35, 10sec] from ESB. Additionally i tweaked a number of things...




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