Richard Penna

After the crappy job ILM did on the second Mummy film I don't blame them for going elsewhere. Heck yeah. The SFX in Mummy Returns was some of the worst I've ever seen. And I've just realise... in 3 years, it'll be a decade since it was released Trailer looks ok, but I'm bothered by them having to Bring Jet Li and Michelle Yeoh (I think) on. And don't get me started on that narrator's voice.

B - giving the score the benefit of the doubt. I don't think it's a bad score, it's just nowhere near an Indy score for me.

That was genius!

You don't watch it either eh? (not saying it's bad, I just never got hooked on it) The TV seasons are a little out of kilter at the moment thanks to the writers' strike (and I still can't believe how mean the studios were being if the stats widely reported really were true). My brother and I have made a spreadsheet telling us when episodes are on - we watch so little actual TV that we need reminding.

Great episode, although I really do think the whole thing was going a bit too extreme for a show that's meant to be fairly light hearted. And that ending was a real moment, and given how Angela reacted earlier, not entirely unexpected, and the Kevin storyline was just cute. Didn't realise it was the season finale though until those things appeared on screen

The first seven notes of the Raiders march is a section of the Star Wars theme played backwards.

I guess actors these days want to hear something a little less cliched than 'I'm a huge fan' or 'I love your work'. But rolled eyes... not the most courteous thing to do. Especially since he didn't have a mob of people all trying to gush on him.

I think you've nailed it. There doesn't seem to be anything new, stylistically. I've heard WotW, Minority Report, Hook, Home Alone and Superman. And let me add: Thank God! Williams has a consistent, well-defined style (that obviously encompasses a whole host of references), and has had for a very, very long time. Now, there can be technical evolvement within stylistic confines, and KOTCS certainly has plenty of it! Again, "The Adventures of Mutt" being a perfect case-in-point. I don't think anyone's arguing that his style is wrong. As I've said before, I can't put my finger on exactly what's lacking with this score - it just hasn't really done it for me.

I agree, but it's what you do with those materials that matter.

I think you've nailed it. There doesn't seem to be anything new, stylistically. I've heard WotW, Minority Report, Hook, Home Alone, Superman and a tiny bit of Geisha.

The end of the finale cue is indeed a refreshing take on it. I'd say I'm 'impressed' by roughly half the album, with the other half just being fairly standard Williams music. I really wish I could share the enthusiasm of you guys, but I guess our differences are what make this place interesting

It means this thing's probably hacked to pieces and missing many crucial cues, particularly from the last part of the movie. I would bet money on that being why I'm finding the album very underwhelming at the moment. I'm really hoping the film's good now, after all these negative reports.

It's copied and pasted pretty much.

I'm guilty of not reading the post properly too. richuk richuk (ok, what did that achieve exactly?)

I think there might be an edit when Mutt's theme comes in - the transition from Iriana just doesn't sound natural. And since when has a Williams album ever presented an action cue like this exactly as it appeared in the film? richuk - fully expecting a long list of cues he's overlooked.

I think we've seen more than enough evidence in the past that Williams' album editor doesn't give a sh!t about presenting proper finales. But Indy4 was right - we need to see the film before making any rash judgements, including me

5 Stars - for the promo that is.

Crusade is my favourite film and score. Not even Joey will persuade me otherwise.

Finale really does sound like a copy/paste track - most of the transitions sound a little forced to me, particularly the march to Iriana transition. I think it's going to take a film viewing to appreciate this score more - I'm not warming to it as much as I hoped to. Don't get me wrong, there are some excellent bits, but overall, it's fallen short of my expectations unfortunately. In fact, I'm finding tracks 11-16 a little dull right now. Pity.

I've given the album a full listen, and my initial opinion is: very good, but definitely nowhere near great. I don't know what it is exactly - all four primary themes are constantly quoted, but somehow, it's missing something. Maybe Iriana's theme doesn't quite work intermingled in the action sequences, and there seem to be many periods where not a hell of a lot actually happens (I put The Snake Pit on at work, and after a few minutes forgot I was listening to music - it failed to keep my attention). Plus Iriana's theme - I just don't think it's that great TBH, a little too formulaic. Although this will probably improve, especially once I've seen the film next week, my initial rating is 7/10

You're spoiling our fun Ricard

Why not celebrate your big day by releasing Indiana Jones: The Complete Recordings

Joseph and the Technicolour Dreamcoat Haven't listened to the whole album, but just one track is enough to send me straight back to my 7th birthday in 1992 when I saw it live. The nostalgia is unbelievable

Yes - I forgot that! Amazing work

You continue to surprise me time and time again, Joe. how so, is that a bad list? Just a little surprising given some of the prejudices you've displayed in the past. Maybe we really don't know you.... Anyway (and in no order): King Kong LotR Trilogy The Village Signs Philosopher's Stone Road to Perdition The Water Horse Planet Earth (I know it's TV, screw you )