Pieter Boelen

Although I do prefer John Williams' style, I agree that Jerry Goldsmith is about just as good a composer as Williams is.

Although PoA might not be very thematically consistant with PS and CoS, it's still an amazing and magical score that sounds every bit like a Harry Potter score should sound. GoF does not. It is an unremarkable score in every respect. Even the infrequent use of Hedwig's Theme doesn't make it a Harry Potter score. The main thing I have against GoF is that it is mainly underscore that does support the film in some ways, but doesn't make for an impressive listening experience on CD at all. What I like about John Williams' Harry Potter scores is that they tell the story without having any need for the film at all. Though when attached to the films they were written for, it still works wonders. What I noticed is that PoA's finale is much, much more impressive than the GoF finale. PoA's finale is absolutely spine-chilling, while I almost fell asleep during GoF's Voldemort cue. Considering that GoF's finale is supposed to be more important, dark and impressive than the PoA finale, something must have gone wrong somewhere. I think that if they would have pasted the PoA finale music in GoF, it might actually have worked better than the music that is in there now. And that is coming from someone who highly dislikes using music in films they weren't written for!

1970's: Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope & Jaws 1980's: Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back & Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade 1990's: Hook & Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace 2000's: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone & Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban

Jerry Goldsmith score: First Knight, Mulan Jerry Goldsmith theme: The Edge, Star Trek Jerry Goldsmith cue/track: The Hijacking (Air Force One), Ambush (Bad Girls), The Fire Dragon (The 13th Warrior), Final Flight (Star Trek: Nemesis), Prepare for Battle/Victory For Us (Timeline) Jerry Goldsmith album: King Solomon's Mines Film scored by Jerry Goldsmith: Mulan, The Mummy

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire beyond any doubt. That SHOULD have had a John Williams score, while the other ones I have no interest in whatsoever.

They did? They still did use miniatures for Star Wars Episode III.

4. They shouldn't really have to since they've said they're trying to go for as little CG as possibleDidn't ILM do the non-CGI special effects on the original Indiana Jones films? ILM doesn't nescessarily mean CGI, does it? :?

I have the DVD, but it takes a long time to figure everything out. Time I don't have.

I have the OST and the "Complete Recordings", but I want to edit them together into an extended version with no SFX. However, the Complete Recording tracks are mislabeled and in the wrong order, so that it is quite hard to figure out what goes where. Would anyone be willing to help with that for a bit?

That is very well said. You convinced me.

I am not joking at all. I was pretty surprised when I noticed it myself. I seriously doubt he actually IS talking Dutch as well, but he does sound like it. :?

I have watched them all quite some time ago, but I recall John Williams was mentioned in just about all commentaries. Not that much was actually said about him. The only specific mention I remember is in the Episode III commentary when Obi-Wan is walking around Utapau to find Girevous. I can't say I was all too impressed with that mention.

1. Lady in the Water (James Newton Howard) 2. Night at the Museum (Alan Silvestri) 3. X-Men 3: The Last Stand (John Powell) 4. ??? 5. ???

Not? You should check it. It's really obvious once you notice it.

That might very well be so. I just mean to say that I personally find the music in films much more important than the sound effects. Sure the sound effects are important and good sound effects can help a film to be good, of course. Star Wars without the lightsaber sound effects would just not be right. But I personally think that a film with no sound effects would work better than a film without the music.

Talking about weird lines in films: Have you noticed in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom when Short Round says in Dutch "Ga uit de weg!" (="Get out of the way!") during the Shanghai chase? He says this while motioning to the two characters in the riksha to get out of the way. I find this highly amusing, because it seems like he really does say "Ga uit de weg!", because it makes complete sense in the scene. Apart from the fact that it's Dutch. :roll:

Considering that good film music, like John Williams', can amount up to 75% or more of the viewing experience of a film in my opinion, we'd get a total of over 100%. :roll:I personally think that the music is much more important than the sound effects. The sound effects just need to be there because it would detract from the viewing experience if they wouldn't be there because something would be missing. On the other hand, having no or bad music can render complete scenes or even movies useless. The sound effects aren't used for telling the story, nor are they very nescessary for increasing the drama or exitement. But the music is very much required to tell the story and heighten the drama and exitement. In a lot of films: Remove the music and you have hardly anything worth watching left.

I am personally quite happy with Alan Silvestri's work, especially The Mummy Returns. I even like Van Helsing. From the films mentioned above I would like John Williams to rescore The Mummy Returns. It is my favourite Alan Silvestri score, but I just love these kinds of films and I would love what John Williams would've come up with.

Titanic by John Williams would probably have made for quite some seaworthy music and I just happen to be a sucker for seaworthy music. And for other seaworthy things called "ships" as well, of course.

I reckon Cerrabore will finish his version eventually. In the meantime I have made several special edition-like Star Wars prequel versions myself. I have made a Phantom Menace 2-disc special edition based on GoodMusician's complete edition. It isn't perfect, but I reckon it's reasonably good. Some edits could be better; I'll try to work on that eventually. I also made a special edition for Star Wars Episode III based on several extended editions I have found. It doesn't have much SFX and I think it's pretty good, but there are some changes I want to make now that GoodMusician released his complete version. And today I made an extended Star Wars II version according to the editing instructions in this thread and with the help of King Mark's work. The only track with SFX I added is Shmi's Funeral; otherwise it is SFX-free. If anybody is interested in any of this, just say so.

Any enjoyable pirate/ocean film that he didn't score yet. Preferably Pirates of the Caribbean. I really think John Williams needs to score an all-out pirate/nautical film.

Did anyone check out the OotP clips seen here? Although I have the feeling the quality of the Harry Potter films is a bit dropping, this actually doesn't look all that bad.

Where'd you find that?

Of course. But it seemed to me as if the makers of the Peter Pan film actually actively tried to make their film a prequel to Hook. So that you could watch both with Hook as an actual sequel.

I didn't really miss anything on the previous King Solomon's Mines release; I found it very enjoyable. Still an improved version would be... welll... an improvement. 8O Quigley Down Under and Lonesome Dove are western scores by Basil Poledouris? Nice. I don't have many western scores, nor much Poledouris, but I like both western scores and Poledouris. I should get these scores.