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LOL mine was definitely half naked, oh well

Thanks Vosk There were a lot of cuts you are right. There is a bit where they stopped the music dead, slapped reverb and carried on with duel of the fates on a totally irrelevant key. But hay at least we heard tones of unreleased material

No idea but there is a half naked lady in the mp3 page

Agreed, it's the attitude that is different here. For whatever reason he didn't get the start he wanted but he didn't stop there. He obviously studied on some form of another so full respect to the guy. Also he has a specific sound and that comes from within. If he was to totally depend on orchestrators he would have sounded different al the time IMO.

350? Blimey , it sounds very narrow

Fair enough, and totally agreed, in the end of the day it's just my opinion and nothing more, Hmm, that's a difficult question, First I want you to understand that I don’t have a problem with how he physically writes his music. That’s anyone’s prerogative. But in his case it’s not choice but inability to write with the traditional notational system. To come to his music I don't think that my disliking of his music comes down to just taste. He is obviously talented but I feel the method he uses to achieve his music ties him down to become the composer he is. And the composer he has become is what I don't like. So for me his music is inevitably gravitated toward his inability to expand his horizons, to write better , more complex themes and maybe one day to personalise his orchestrations. I cannot separate the two Don't get me wrong If he would have written some amazing stuff and someone would have told me: 'You know Vangelis doesn't read music and writes based only on improvisation through electronic means' then I would be extremely impressed. But it's something that won't happen as from what I can hear he only possesses knowledge of basic music and his reluctance to study other composer’s works can only stop him becoming better. I am coming from the background of the ‘self-taught’ composer and for years I felt I knew all I needed to know. I was also surrounded by people who believed what Vangelis believed that ‘it’s best not to study as other people’s music can smother your personal talents’. When I decided to study music I realised how massively wrong I was and thus I dislike people who take this path. I believe in the strong ethics of tradition and tradition in music comes from the centuries of musical developments. I cannot understand people who discard hundreds of years of history on the basis that they are talented and their talent cannot be tainted by other people’s influences. Unfortunately Vangelis is in the same group of people.

It certainly has a great theme, but I prefered the concert version he played live at the opening. It trims out all the less thematic stuff and would work better on my Ipod. I have his performance at the Atlanta opening ceremony on vhs actually. I agree with you, I got a CD with both versions and even though I like both of them I prefer the shorter version

Well,in any case,that's what it sounds like K.M. beerchug

Sorry I think I missed something, Out of interest ,why didn't you guys like TPM UE? I thought the whole score was released and fans would be happy about it.

Yeah but I think you misunderstood, What Vangelis says is that he wants to avoid studying music full stop as he feels he is in danger of getting influenced by other composers. So not only he can't read , he probably has a very limited knowledge of harmony and composition too and I would imagine he knows nothing about orchestration. I mean good luck to the guy but I disapprove of this way of thinking plus I personally think he is a very mediocre composer erm...I mean musical interpreter

The Atlanta Olympic theme is my favourite

Any theme,no matter how inspired,sucks when it is played by synths. The theme is played on piano. :roll: Justin No matter, it's still boring I voted for Last Emperor, Lovely score

I wouldn't know, I like a couple of slow tracks from them but I'm not a fan

I can't help it. The guy gets on my nerves! 'Yesterday' is a beautiful song and the other one too (not a huge Beetles fan, sorry) but he hasn't written anything else nowhere near as good since then which makes me think it was Lennon behind it anyway. Every time I see him on an interview I reach for the bucket. He is just so pretentious it's unreal. I'm not elitist, honestly. I like a lot of different styles of music. From classical to big bands to pop to heavy rock The guy just sits on my man breasts

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WOW what can I say about Narnia, The film was good!! And the music was sooo....... ...... Sorry , just another bad score for me.

Harry Potter is just amazing!

OK here is the thing, First of all Paul Mc Cartney: , :micro: (just my opinion) Writing for a band doesn't really requires you to have vast knowledge of harmony , composition and orchestration. If you can strum a guitar and play a few chords you can write a song (providing you've got the talent) Writing for a hundred piece orchestra? different thing Sure you can get an orchestrator but if you don't know what you are doing you will hit a limit sooner or later.

I just use cubase I had the chance to work with samples and I was blown away, Still nowhere near close to sounding like the real thing. I remember watching Walking with Dinosaurs (UK Documentary) After 3 seconds I knew this wasn't an orchestra. You can really tell. It just sounds like all the players are surrounded by Plexiglas and recorded separately. I came across a book about the mathematical relationship of sounds in relation to the distance between them. It was basically saying that orchestral instruments don't just play their sound but they resonate with each other. It's a living-breathing thing. Then you have the room and its natural reverberation and last but absolutely not least the recording equipment. It's a mind field. Personally I stopped trying to duplicate the orchestra a long time ago. I find it turns me in to a programmer -engineer and I want to compose, not look for better sounds all the time

Give us a break Vangelis!! Talent is the necessary ingredient to creativity, but raw talent won't do. It has to be nurtured and developed. Unfortunately Vangelis comes from an era in Greece where a lot of composers were just self-proclaimed geniuses. Can't believe people have taken him seriously

Sven years because the main theme is about a trillion times better that the one at MOAG. Even though it's repeated many times I love all the renditions. The main theme and its development has really spoken to me something that MOAG has failed miserably to do. I just can't feel this score for some reason. Favourite tracks, Seven Years in Tiber, Leaving Ingrid, Harrer's Journey, Reflections, Approaching the Summit (Beautiful), Quiet Moments (2:19 is an incredible moment), Regaining a Son (absolutely beautiful) With MOAG I half like the main theme and a track near the end kind of does it for me but it's a hit and miss.

I met a Boston Pops trumpet player once who told me that Williams was a real gentleman on and of the stage

Well said My thoughts exactly

At last , someone shares my thoughts on these scores!

Thank you indeed, Just watched it, Man Yo -Yo ma's vibratos tear my heart! I saw the man in the UK once and he was awesome. What a great thing seeing Williams on the piano and the arrangement was excellent! Shame the piano wasn't a bit louder