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  1. 24 minutes ago, Will said:

    Somehow I have a feeling this will sound kind of like the "NBC Olympic Basketball" music he wrote a while back:

     

     

    It almost sounds un-Williams-y in its level of accessibility -- but accessibility and instant gravitas may be exactly what Kobe wants. It's awesome in any case so I certainly wouldn't mind if Williams worked in the same style. 

    Not un-Williams-y at all; it's derived from Summon the Heroes; in fact it's just a soft variation of it.

  2. Spielberg wouldn't have been present at the sessions, at the time being in Poland shooting Schindler's List. Though I don't know for sure, JW wasn't conducting all or part of the sessions either, but instead Artie Kane.

     

    In any case, if there is any footage, it might have been suppressed for a while so as to not distract AMPAS (the Oscars people) from Schindler's List when nominations were due. In fact despite the immense creative merit of the Jurassic Park score, it wasn't nominated for an Oscar, in an attempt to keep it from competing with the Schindler's List.

  3. There are the signature editions from Hal Leonard, though I'm quite sure the cue you're after isn't featured in those.

    Some complete scores do circulate the net in bootleg PDF form; I have Jurassic Park scanned from it's hand inscribed original format, though I can't recall where I procured it from, but it was definitely illicit. Maybe there's a digital bootleg PDF of TESB floating around online somewhere. I'd certainly love to know.

  4. Amistad sounds HECTIC! That combined choir is absolutely sensational.

     

    Seeing the video; it thrills me as always to watch JW conducting anything. His grand mannerisms inspire me so much. That said, I notice that post-pacemaker, he doesn't seem to lift his elbows as much. He usually makes grand sweeping gestures, particularly to close a piece, but now he seems to rely mostly on his fore-arm, as if he's lost strength in his shoulder.

  5. On TV, The Mission Theme - it's used in Australia by the channel 7 news. Most Aussies wouldn't even realise JW wrote it.

     

    The most over-exposed concert piece is Schindler's List. I'm usually wondering why that piece out of all of them. Sure it's nice, buy there's so much more on offer.

  6. 2 minutes ago, Jay said:

    Listening now, sounds good

    The Never-feast was basically the arrangement from the Williams on Williams CD

     Yes, it sounds like what was recorded for the Williams on Williams album. I love hearing the subtle differences in the sound mix between concert and studio. You always hear something new. In this case, the harp is quite prominent (as it ought to be in this case).

  7. On 03/12/2016 at 10:19 PM, crumbs said:

    And even if the recording schedule wasn't staggered, Disney would balk at paying flights & accommodation for an entire orchestra for 2 weeks ($300,000).

     

    Though you are on point (and assuming your figure is anywhere near correct), compared to the film's final $245m budget, $300,000 is pocket change. If Disney were confident this would appease fans (and in extension, win their custom), them I'm sure they wouldn't hesitate to make the investment - the publicity and nostalgia value alone would likely justify it.

    Though I can't remember where I heard of read this, there was an interview with JW during the press phase where he wanted to specifically credit Michael Gorfaine in his assistance in securing the LA freelance orchestra. This heavily suggests that Williams alone wanted to do it locally, and that neither corporate, political or financial barriers were at play. The logistical barrier of the staggered recording schedule would have been a mandating factor as well.

  8. Acoustically I've always preferred the LSO/Abbey Road recordings; they sound slightly more distant, yet I feel this unifies the orchestra and sounds more like you're listening to a concert.

     

    The LA/freelance contract orchestra always sounds in-your-face, and perhaps sterile. They are of course musically second-to-few.

     

    "Good microphones, good preamps, good mixing desk, good engineer, good musicians, good room, good conducting, good orchestration." - Yes. It takes a combination of many perfected elements and factors to make a good recording.    

  9. JW is somewhat more gaunt than just a few years ago. I suspect his pacemaker surgery would have exacerbated any natural geriatric shrinking.

     

    And he certainly can't seem to let go of those turtle-necks. Maybe he's trying to hide his neck? Looks like the bow-tie is now reserved exclusively for receiving lifetime-achievement awards; certainly didn't see one at Hollywood Bowl.

     

    But bottom line, whatever shape or form (no-less, the particularly well-seeming on seen here) he's in, it's fantastic that he's still engaging actively in such events. I might even get to see him live again one day.

  10. Valdez, I'm as big a fan of JW as you are. I genuinely hate to trample your ambition (because I truly admire it), but it sounds to me that your motives need some scrutiny.

     

    I also would LOVE to have JW score one of my films, but I would only ever pursue him if I knew that I could enjoy his artistry and services with FULL collaboration, say compared to what Steven Spielberg enjoys.

     

    You claim that you're willing to accept so much as just a simple theme; which is fair enough under the circumstances, but, there's no guarantee that you personally would like what he originally offers, or that it would be ultimately the best thing for your film.

     

    It seems to me that you're simply trying to use the opportunity of your government funded film to somehow get involved with John Williams, just to use his name on the film, even if it comes to the artistic or financial detriment to your film.

     

    I wish you ever success, and will be equally delighted for you if you do happen to succeed with your pursuit. But be very cautious. Do what is best for your film.

  11. I was very shaken many years ago to learn that JW uses these people referred to as 'orchestrators' - as it gave me the immediate (false) impression that none of the orchestrative decisions were his, but rather some (almost) unsung hero buried in the film credits, and that John merely created a simple lead sheet with a melody and some harmony on it.

     

    It took a while to be reassured again of John's sovereignty regarding the creative decisions, as I gradually learned what an orchestrator technically does (or more to the point, what they do when working with JW), and how their role is merely (as Pope once put it) "secretarial". In that sense, it's quite fascinating hearing anything from the likes of Pope, Neufeld, and Karam (whom I've heard of in name only), as so much of the finished creations, as per JW's original intentions depend on how well they survive the orchestrator's own interpretation.

     

    In that old BBC documentary, we get a glimpse of Herbert Spencer, and his progress on the "Mynock Cave" cue. I really wish the documentary had spent a bit more time on that stage of the scoring; I felt it was really glossed over.

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