Ollie 1,059 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 what do you do when your soundtrack collection exceeds your capacity to listen to it completely?Well I can't say I never have anything to listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I only have a 250GB external drive and it's almost full. Right now to make room I'm just buying 16GB flash thumb drives to put the files I don't have to access often ,like my JW c.d. WAV rips. I doubt I'll ever reach 250 GB's of MP3's and I don't really keep a lot of videosI might buy a super compact drive to make another backup , one I could easily grab on the way out in case of a catastrophe such as a fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I only have a 250GB external drive and it's almost full. Right now to make room I'm just buying 16GB flash thumb drives to put the files I don't have to access often ,like my JW c.d. WAV rips. I doubt I'll ever reach 250 GB's of MP3's and I don't really keep a lot of videosI might buy a super compact drive to make another backup , one I could easily grab on the way out in case of a catastrophe such as a fire.Get a terabyte drive, you won't have to worry about running out of room any time soon. As soon as I can I need to get a terabyte drive myself...I'm running out of room on my hard drive (both C and D). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Also, there are really affordable 500 gig 2.5" USB drives these days. I have to get one, I'm moving more and more stuff from my 350 gig one to the internal drive to make space for new rips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I'm proud of myself - I just bought two 320GB external hard drives from newegg, one for storage and one for backup. My poor little 200GB hard drive is really tired of me putting stuff on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,691 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Yeah, hard drives can be bought cheaply these days. I have a 1TB drive that I put in an enclosure (with the idea that it fill fit inside my next computer) and I have about 2/3 still free after several months' use. It'll last for absolutely ages.It seems amazing that an entire music collection can be fit on a drive small enough to fit in a pocket - sure beats having to carry around wallets full of CDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I still back up my acquired MP3's on cdr though for "permanent" protection . I make folders and when I reach 700MB I burn it and start a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,691 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Used to burn onto DVDs, but when I realised it would breach 10 discs, I gave up.I consider a good backup strategy now to be just keeping multiple copies, and my restore plan for both my computer configuration and my music have been put into action at some point.In fact, the only time I thought I'd lost everything was when I was in a transition between my old desktop and laptop, and gave my brother my internal 80GB drive so I could still access it through his machine. I then mapped the wrong drive when he wasn't home, and absolutely panicked when it appeared to be down, and spent several hours salvaging what I could from DVDs. My relief when he came home and pointed out my error... lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,366 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 16gb thumb drives?700MB CDR backups?mark, get with the times! It's 2009 not 1999!For the money you are spending on thumb drives and cdrs, you could get yourself a nice external 500GB drive and fit everything on it. Hell get two, so if one breaks you have another one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,691 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Actually, 16GB thumb drives are about as 2009 as it gets, I think that's pretty big even by today's standards.It's worth aiming a bit higher although contrary to what I said earlier, hard drive prices seem to have gone up a bit. My newest 250GB external was about £55, but the same product is now £80 from the same place. I wonder if that's just the recession talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Like I said go with a terabyte drive. You won't have to worry about running out of room any time soon and they're just as cheap as a 500GB drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 16gb thumb drives?Yes.... like I said I don't need a terabyte for the "really" important stuff (music). I figure I need about 10 of those 16GB thumb drives to back up ALL my music (all my Williams c.d. WAV rips + all MP3's I have )I would consider this the best permanent backup solution after cdr's because flash drives very rarely fail . I don't trust hard drives for permananent back up. Plus backing up on many means that if one fails you don't lose everything . And 10 thumb drives fits in a very small box...I bought my first one for 25$ on sale ,a 16 GB Kingston Datatraveller. Once I spot them for under 20$ I will buy a bunch of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 All my Williams CDs in FLAC format have 27GB, in WAV it would be about twice as much. From what I know, your Williams collection is more complete than mine - how can you fit it on a 16GB drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I can't , I only fit A to H on the first drive. My Williams collection in WAV is about 70GB .And yes I want WAV because it is the EXACT duplicate of the c.d.For non-Williams 224-320k MP3 is good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I can't , I only fit A to H on the first drive. My Williams collection in WAV is about 70GB.Ah. I misunderstood you there.And yes I want WAV because it is the EXACT duplicate of the c.d.So is FLAC.For non-Williams 224-320k MP3 is good enough.No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 No mp3 should really be acceptable unless if it's absolutely necessary. FLAC is just the same as WAV but it takes up less space than an actual WAV file. FLAC is still a lossless file. All my CD's I've got are automatically ripped as WAV then encoded to FLAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Is there an iTunes plugin available for FLAC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Who cares, when you have Apple Lossless?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,691 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Nothing wrong with mp3. 320k is identical to the original in my view. Heck, I somehow kept a 128 or 160k downloaded version of something when I bought the CD. Took ages to notice that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 128kbit MP3s sound absolutely horrible on any system (except perhaps a portable player when you're among traffic noise).Who cares, when you have Apple Lossless?I do. As does everyone creating an encoder, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,691 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 128k mp3s sound fine on my computer Marian, even when it's dead silent in the middle of the night.My system is pretty low-end soundwise, but it's not true to say that 128k always sounds bad. It depends how you listen, and of course if I'm ripping a CD, it's 320k, and if I buy digitally then 192k minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 128 Kbps MP3 is bad, your system is just bad enough to avoid you noticing it.NR: Bond Back in Action (vol. 1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Fry's has an external Seagate TB drive (USB 2.0, Firewire 400, eSATA) for $130 today.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,691 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Hmm, that's good for an actual external one and considering the UK change rate at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Fry's has an external Seagate TB drive (USB 2.0, Firewire 400, eSATA) for $130 today.NeilI'm looking for one with network capabilities, actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 To continue my little flash memory project,I purchased a second thumb drive, a 32gb one this time (65$).A long time ago I thought it would be nice to have a carbon copy of all my JW c.d.'s on tiny memory chips ,this was a special project that has nothing to do with backing up all my computer data . I wait for technology to become good enough ...now 16/32 GB chips are good enough for this project.I also have an irrational dislike of hard drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 I expect that in about 10 years we can have flash drives small enough, but with enough space that your entire collection can be stored in a device the size of an Micro SC card, and then that device can be implanted in the human brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Who cares, when you have Apple Lossless?NeilIs that really good sound quality? Do you have to import CD's in that format, or can I just take the ones I have imported as mp3 and convert them to lossless? I want to test if I can hear the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 There is no point what so ever in converting an MP3 to Apple LosslessNR: Flodder In Amerika (Dick Maas) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 There is no point what so ever in converting an MP3 to Apple LosslessDoesn't make it better? Are you saying I should just import a CD in lossless then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 No, of course it does not make it better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 There is no point what so ever in converting an MP3 to Apple LosslessSteef's correct. If you want a lossless library (in whatever lossless format you choose) you have to start by ripping your CDs all over again. It's a big task, but in the end you can have your entire collection organized the way you want it in perfect quality.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 There is no point what so ever in converting an MP3 to Apple LosslessSteef's correct. If you want a lossless library (in whatever lossless format you choose) you have to start by ripping your CDs all over again. It's a big task, but in the end you can have your entire collection organized the way you want it in perfect quality.NeilOy, I'm never doing that again. I'll stick to mp3 now and forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 So you proudly proclaim that you'll never buy another DVD if you don't have too, but you'll happily stick to an outdated compression format? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Wuss. I encoded 400 CDs in about two weeks on a recent trip back to New Jersey.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Wuss. I encoded 400 CDs in about two weeks on a recent trip back to New Jersey.NeilYeah well I already imported about 500 CD's last summer. I'm still in the process of organizing all my music onto my new Macbook. I'm not doing that again, especially since I'm so close to finally finishing. Only have to go through the Morricone, Zimmer, JW, and MV folders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 What's a folder?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 That: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Just humor me and tell me what bitrate you encoded your collection in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 MP3 160kbps, although I think I changed it to 192 recently. I just tested out Apple Lossless on Medal Of Honor, I couldn't hear the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,691 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 At that kind of bitrate you can't. In my view, it's only once you get down to 96k that you're going to into compression artifacts territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 MP3 in 160k is too low (if you trade something in 160 you might get a negative comment ,you can definitely hear the compression on good gear) .192k just barely cuts it ,kind of the baseline for MP3 (personally I can't hear compression on 192 but I prefer a little higher bitrate for psychological comfort) . 224 and above your ok.Finally I don't believe anyone who claims to hear the difference between 320k MP3 and a c.d. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I have most of my stuff in 320, but I'm now going back over some of it in Apple LL. I don't really keep anything I get that's lower than 192 unless it's incredibly rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 At that kind of bitrate you can't. In my view, it's only once you get down to 96k that you're going to into compression artifacts territory.On an MP3 player you might not be able to tell the difference, but play them on a decent stereo system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I listen to my music on my laptop, which has pretty crummy internal speakers. The only time I listen to music on a proper sound system is when it's accompanied with a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 laptop with internal speakers?oh boy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Might as well back up in 64 KBps then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Sounds fine to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 That's like listening to music on the 5$ clock radio on my night table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 My laptop speakers are fine, clear and loud, the way I like it. I don't need surround sound to enjoy music casually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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