Richard Penna 3,689 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 As a break from Williams vs everyone else debates around here, take a look at this:http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/09/01...lassical-music/Particularly found the box at the end interesting:Note: Under no circumstances should you ever list John Williams or Danny Elfman as your favorite composer.It's a weird topic I think. I enjoy a lot of really modern scores, but then lots of Horner and Williams (to name only a few) scores are what I would consider classical music. What do those who like classical music say they get out of it that we don't from film scores I wonder? And what makes a piece 'classical'?The above quote seems a bit like under no circumstances list Hans Zimmer or <insert Zimmer clone> as your favourite composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Wow. I think that article is absolutely stupid. Anyways, I do not consider any contemporary music to be "Classical" music, because to say that would imply that the work in question has survived a long amount of time, and is still heralded as "good" by today's standards.However, I never understood the notion ( one I believe you disagree with, as well, Rich) that a "contemporary composer" can never measure up to a "Classical composer". I do not understand why time periods should influence my appreciation of a certain type of music. I like John Williams more than many Classical composers. I am not familiar enough with Beethoven's works to say who I like more, but I would not be surprised if I said "John Williams".Agree or disagree with this post as you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 It certainly is an idiotic article. Film music is in no way inferior to classical music, they're just slightly different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 That is far from my biggest problem with that article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I believe the article in question was written in humor. Even though it's not that funny let us not become as humor challanged as FSM has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I figured that the last statement was intended to be humorous ( and I thought it was, kind of), but the rest.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 Well yes, I think so too (well, half tongue-in-cheek anyway), that's why I mentioned the Zimmer bit at the end of my post. It's just about notions and stereotypes within a genre I think, and those who take it all a bit too seriously and pompously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 When it says 'White people' it means what i think it means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 What do you think it means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Caucasian race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I would imagine so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Then i think it can be considered a stupid article since its on a stupid blog.Unless its some joke i'm not getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 I don't see how race would come into it at all. Not sure what factor would actually.It's something I love about us - walk down the street, and there's no way to know if the person walking in front of you would rather listen to Mozart or Madonna.I just posted this as I thought it would provoke some sort of discussion... no idea what direction lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I am glad you posted this, Rich. I am curious to hear other peoples' thoughts on this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I think the "racist" bit was meant to be humorous, as Mark suggested.I'm not sure about the classical music > film music bit, but I'm not so sure that was intended to be a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I think the "racist" bit was meant to be humorous, as Mark suggested.yeah i suppose it's a joke i did not get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 I love that quote in your sig btw nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 The silly Amazon.com quote, or the Duke Ellington quote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I think the "racist" bit was meant to be humorous, as Mark suggested.yeah i suppose it's a joke i did not get.Actually, it's just not that funny. As I said, it was meant to be humorous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 The whole blog is meant to be funny, whether or not it's succeeded is another thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 The silly Amazon.com quote, or the Duke Ellington quote?Amazon. Ill-informed reviews are all over that place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Yes we could do an entire thread on amazon reviews, actually I think we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Regardless of whether the article was written in jest or not, I think it (well, not the article itself, but the questions Rich asked) can prompt some very nice discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 The best comments are on YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 The silly Amazon.com quote, or the Duke Ellington quote?Amazon. Ill-informed reviews are all over that place.Oh, okay. I liked it too, which is why I used it. But I have been too lazy to change it. In fact.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Well no classical music isn't just for white people. The concerts I've attended have had a nice mixture of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Worthless.Another blog by someone's who's been reading The Onion way too much. I love that kind of humor, but it's best left to professionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Luckily for me, I don't list "John Williams or Danny Elfman" as my favorite composer. I take a much better route and leave Elfman out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf 4 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Oh ok...as a "non-white" person, I guess I had better revise my "like" of classical music after reading that blog, as it seems only people encumbered with "white guilt" can appreciate classical music and the other fine things in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 No-one's perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 The best comments are on YouTube.And the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeagol 0 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I'm only done the first paragraph and I can already say this: Bullcrap. I'll comment again once I'm done reading, but I'm pretty sure my first impression won't change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Totally uninformed and unfunny. Eric Satie and Philip Glass are the two staples of "modern and post-modern" music? Okay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I understand what the article is satirising though. I met many people in when Boston, having conversations after concerts about composers I "should" know but don't pay attention to like Faure. I have to admit my knowledge of classical pieces is somewhat limited to composers and pieces that are ancestors of film music like Stravinsky, Prokofiev, Wagner, Hanson etc. But it is true, when I did reveal my love of film music composers in those classical music scenes I was looked at like I started talking about Tom Petty being the best composer. There's a certain segment of society that really holds "classical" music up like it is some kind of elite delicacy. I just like what I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 John Williams is my favorite composer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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