#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 But honestly, we don't really need CR's for these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 We just don't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Stop it Alvar! I have told you that we don't need the CR's. And at some point you're going to have to accept it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 It's a start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Complete versions of all scores is the lofty goal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,715 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Wow. To tell you the truth almost all the posters and such cover images look very slapdash these days. Why not have Alan Lee and John Howe paint the covers? So much classier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 You knew the whole poster/art thing was going to be bad when we never really got what I would consider to be a true final theatrical poster for AUJ. Sure we had a few nice ones (Gandalf in the Shire, Bilbo walking out of Bag End), but otherwise there was that retread with Bilbo and Sting and that was about it...I was waiting for a big multi-character poster, in the style of the LOTR ones. And once that didn't happen, you never had an established one for the DVD/Blu-ray art (it doesn't help that they've used so damn many). It's been a mess really. More Warner bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barnald 365 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I like the bottom bit of the BOFA poster (the fighting), but everything above it is arse.And the sooner you acknowledge that the Bilbo with Sting poster was shit the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Bilbo is seen swinging Sting a lot in the posters while actually does quite a little of the actual fighting in the films. I guess hero always needs to have a weapon to brandish because that is the way you defeat bad guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barnald 365 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 It was the start of this weird 'brooding Bilbo' business, a hap-hazard attempt to make him dangerous and sexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 And the sword. Why did he have to be always portrayed with a sword! He is not James Bond, he doesn't need a weapon in one hand in the poster.Otherwise a nice uncluttered, no floating heads, poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I only really love the one with the open door at Bag End! Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I only really love the one with the open door at Bag End!Definitely the best poster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I desire more musicalways more!but yes AUJ > DOS > BOTFA (I only really want the entire Fire&Water sequence from that)also this reminds me of the LivTyler in every poster days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MedigoScan 324 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 well something went wrong with the link there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 It worked before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crumbs 14,317 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I forgive you Peter Jackson, all is redeemed!This adds so much to the narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crumbs 14,317 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I forgive you Peter Jackson, all is redeemed!This adds so much to the narrative.Presumably why it was cut in the first place.I've certainly re-assessed my expectations for this EE to zero.If the ROTK EE is anything to go by, it'll be superfluous garbage that deserved to be cut. Disappointing, because half an hour of genuine character expansion added to BOTFA results in a film that deserves accolades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crumbs 14,317 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 If the ROTK EE is anything to go by, it'll be superfluous garbage that deserved to be cut.Be silent! Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth!Do you have any authority to treat with me? I have a token to show thee.This release was dear to thee, I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crumbs 14,317 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Meh. Subpar Williams!It's no Chamber of Secrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crumbs 14,317 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 That's for sure!If only William Ross had more input on Azkaban. The score might've amounted to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 My concern is that we only have 20 minutes and this is one sequence which really doesn't need extending, except for maybe the destruction of the windlance. But you could be looking at a couple of precious minutes right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 My concern is that we only have 20 minutes and this is one sequence which really doesn't need extending, except for maybe the destruction of the windlance. But you could be looking at a couple of precious minutes right there.Yep, plus some irrelevant chariot chase that has little relevance AND even more awful Legolas antics with the bats of Gundabad.Was it really so hard to include a little bit more character interaction into an awfully action-heavy film? Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crumbs 14,317 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I'm pretty sure any flashback involving the death of Legolas's mum will be saved for the inevitable prequel:Lord of the Rings: Anthology - The Conception of LegolasIt will be 4 hours long and star Meryl Streep as Legolas's mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Ideally I'd want a longer scene involving Boromir, Faramir and Denethor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,350 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Yep, plus some irrelevant chariot chase that has little relevanceRedundant much? crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 If the ROTK EE is anything to go by, it'll be superfluous garbage that deserved to be cut.Be silent! Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth!Do you have any authority to treat with me? I have a token to show thee.This release was dear to thee, I see.I know a lot of people who would die from a heartattack if they saw this in front of them crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crumbs 14,317 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I liked it the way the film portrayed it; that Thorin was alone with Azog for the final battle was a more fitting conclusion for a character who essentially descended into madness on his own.That Bilbo was his only companion upon his death was touching, considering their tumultuous relationship throughout the trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I doubt they would have changed the idea of Thorin facing Azog alone. It is something PJ must have dreamt of very early on since he could not do a bad guy going mano-a-mano with the main hero in RotK. They built the enmity so deliberately over the first two films, they practically had to have a duel at the end.But the scene happening in the Dale ruins would have been better. I never liked the way they folded in distance in the movie as in the book reaching the spur of Ravenhill took 3 hours or longer on foot. It is in the close neighbourhood in the film.I personally would have loved a scene closer to the book where Thorin, Fili, Kili and their group of dwarves are surrounded, desperate and fighting for their lives and making an attack against Azog's guard with Azog and Thorin maybe wounding each other mortally but then Beorn coming to actually turn the tide by crashing into Azog's vanguard and killing them and finishing the orc king off. Why should the movie follow film conventions when the book didn't do it in its story either? To me Thorin's redemption would have come in his valiant leadership of the small army of dwarves, men and elves against the overwhelming numbers of Azog's forces and dying in defense of his allies and friends, not from some one-on-one combat with the main bad guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I agree with Inky. A mano-a-mano between Thorin and Azog seems to have been built into the story from the first film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I like the composition of the artwork above; Thorin lying dead on the ground with Erebor and the statues of his ancestors in the distance behind him.Not exactly subtle, but still more symbolic than anything else PJ achieved with the prequel trilogy. Thus it's unsurprising this was jettisoned in favour of him dying while watching over a patently fake, stylised sunset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I love the aereal shot of Thorin and Bilbo, the shadows of the Eagles flying overhead.... crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I thought the whole Ravenhill business a terrible idea, for several reasons.1) It took us away from the main battle, so we had no idea what was going on down there from then on.2) It required goats/rams to get up there, which is just another poor unnecessary element3) The distance was probably one of the reasons why they decided to jettison the armour of the Dwarves, since greater mobility was required4) We lost the great book moment of Thorin rallying all to him during their desperate last stand5) It meant Beorn couldn't arrive at the main battle before Erebor, and had to arrive on a fucking eagle due to the height, which was bollocksUpon seeing Thorin's charge, the angry Azog should have decided to come down from the Ravenhill and join battle, and it could play out from there. They could almost work it into the plot, with Thorin saying that the only way they could entice Azog down was for him to emerge. Part of me wonders if the action was put up on the Ravenhill to cater for Tauriel and Legolas. Dean O'Gorman did say recently that the original plan was for him and Kili to die together, which of course makes perfect sense. I'm putting that change (surely the worst of all) down to studio bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Why didnt they use Bunnies Of Doom to get to Ravenhill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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