Popular Post Schindler's List 3 Posted January 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2016 Dear John fans, I am just obsessed with the Schindler's List score. Especially the theme and "Remembrances". As a beginning piano player I must say that his work is very challenging. The fingers are sometimes difficult to place, like it is not written for persons with small hands like me. Personally don't like the ending notes of "Remembrances". The ending is very powerful and dramatic, but those last white rolling notes (left: G,D,B♭, right: G,B♭,D,G) miss something in my opinion. I will include a link where you see me playing this piece and to my opinion those last white notes should be more dramatic and complex. I would like to discuss this with the master himself but I don't want to bother him with my humble opinion. I would like to thank the master for writing this piece, it makes me cry every time I play it. What you think? crocodile, Taikomochi and Quintus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 It is definitely the superior of the Schindler's List themes and probably one of John Williams' most underrated creations ever. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Couldn't agree more, Croc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,648 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, Romão said: Couldn't agree more, Croc Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,723 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 9 hours ago, crocodile said: It is definitely the superior of the Schindler's List themes and probably one of John Williams' most underrated creations ever. Karol This beautiful theme gets eclipsed by the main theme most of the time but it is indeed on par if not better than the main theme. The arrangement for the concert suite with extended coda is my favourite version of it as it functions as the finale of the piece. E.g. Williams's Treesong album with Boston Symphony Orchestra (Gil Shaham performing the solos) and Keisuke Wakao Plays the Music of John Williams with an arrangement for oboe and chamber ensemble contain this extended version which is absolutely gorgeous and the coda really does justice to the theme and gives it s a far more complex and satisfying ending than the version heard on the original soundtrack album, even wedding quotes of the main theme into the fabric of the piece. By the way this was the theme which one of our top film historians chose to highlight in the programme and narration of a John Williams concert done here in Finland few years ago, not the main theme, so it is not entirely forgotten or unappreciated. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 15 hours ago, crocodile said: It is definitely the superior of the Schindler's List themes and probably one of John Williams' most underrated creations ever. Karol I hadn't thought too much about it before, but I think you're right. I wonder if there's some nice strings arrangements of the piece on YouTube. I'd generally always just thought of 'Rememberences' as being the bridge section within the main theme. But there's more to it than that. Beautiful playing btw OP, thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,517 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Remembrances is quite a beautiful piece... Regarding the ending, after a little bit of improvisation I came up with this: Measure 3 has an alternate option...I'm not sure which one works better. This is what it sounds like: Without ossia With ossia Is this the kind of thing you're trying to get at? Schindler's List 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 2 hours ago, Quintus said: I'd generally always just thought of 'Rememberences' as being the bridge section within the main theme. But there's more to it than that. Isnt that a completely different melody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,723 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 22 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Isnt that a completely different melody? 'Tis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schindler's List 3 Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 @loert423 Thank you soo much for your effort! Do you agree that the ending is too short and simple? I am missing complex notes that put more drama and emotion. I listened to your rendition and it is beautiful (made me cry) and pretty close but I am still missing more darkness, more drama. At the end I need more minor and low keys. Are you Dutch by the way? What ending we suggest, we certainly need John's blessing and approvement. This is another ending: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 2 hours ago, Stefancos said: Isnt that a completely different melody? 2 hours ago, Incanus said: 'Tis. Hmm, okay. They're very similar though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Not really. Hum both back to back and you will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,517 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 3 hours ago, Schindler's List said: @loert423 Thank you soo much for your effort! Do you agree that the ending is too short and simple? I am missing complex notes that put more drama and emotion. I listened to your rendition and it is beautiful (made me cry) and pretty close but I am still missing more darkness, more drama. At the end I need more minor and low keys. Even darker? What about: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18637418/schindlerendingdarker.mp3 I think the original ending is passable but one would need to slow down a lot to avoid making it sound so sudden. I think adding an Ebmaj7 in there might help a bit, but whether or not it makes musical sense...I dunno. 3 hours ago, Schindler's List said: Are you Dutch by the way? What ending we suggest, we certainly need John's blessing and approvement. Nope, Polish. And yes, we definitely need his blessing! Schindler's List 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 3 hours ago, Schindler's List said: Are you Dutch by the way? Are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schindler's List 3 Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 loert423 thanks man! I guess we will never know what a nice ending is. Thanks soo much for your input! Love it! That last one was very Darkside-ish...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,517 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Yeah, I thought it was a bit too menacing... You're welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schindler's List 3 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 loert423 I will make my own ending inspired by your input and my own suggestion....I will post it on video or audio soon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 On 21/01/2016 at 4:47 AM, crocodile said: It is definitely the superior of the Schindler's List themes and probably one of John Williams' most underrated creations ever. Karol I disagree. It's a great and memorable little theme, but it's not superior to the main theme. Not even close. In my opinion, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schindler's List 3 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 @Josh500. I disagree, on piano "Remembrances" is superior. On orchestra you are right, the Theme is more superior. loert423, you also have the score of that last dark version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Wait. Piano version of Remembrances? I was talking about the two versions found on the OS album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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