RomanticStrings 10 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Does anyone else know about whether John Williams actually had anything to do with the T-Rex being the hero at the end of JP? I found it at IMDB.com."The ending where the T-rex saves the day was added when the production team and John Williams decided that it was the hero of the film."http://us.imdb.com/Trivia?0107290.~Conor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 I've seen that quote before.I would guess it's true.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 I think maybe they mean the way the music goes there paints Trex as the hero of the film. But the way it was really scored was horrific, not triumphant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Maybe it was decided partially by Williams. But didn't he see it for the first time when it was finished shooting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 It was an all CGI scene,so it was added later. Maybe when Williams spotted the film Spielberg still wasn't sure how to end the movie and Williams' comment sparked an idea.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 In "The Making of Jurassic Park", both book and documentary, Spielberg clearly states that it was his idea to have the T-Rex save the day at the end of the movie. So I would guess that trivia is a reference to the change from the carnivore motif we get in the CD to the big fanfare we hear on the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Wow that's very neat. I hadn't heard that at all. Justin -Who loves the finale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 The ending of the film was changed, but what I heard was that this was done only after Spielberg realized what was possible with computer generated effects. I don't think Williams had anything to do with the narrative change.Do not believe everything you read at the Internet Movie Database.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 IMDB was wrong. There's a shock. Justin -Wondering why Williams never wrote the themes for Hulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanticStrings 10 Posted June 24, 2003 Author Share Posted June 24, 2003 I asked here because I knew that it could be an error at IMDB.com. I was hoping it was true, though.~Conor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 This bit of trivia is also shocking:At the very end of the film when it says "A Steven Spielberg Film" you hear the five notes from Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977) slightly modified.I wonder who writes these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 This bit of trivia is also shocking:At the very end of the film when it says "A Steven Spielberg Film" you hear the five notes from Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977) slightly modified.I wonder who writes these.I think that's the raptor leitmotif, used in the movie and it sequels (specially loud in JPIII)Is it really an intended modification of Close encounters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Of course not. Some schmoe just wanted to be interesting.Besides, the raptor motif is four notes, CE3K is five.- Marc, who gets annoyed by trivia's like these. The Shark Cage Fugue from Jaws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 When the End Credits start in the movie we hear a massively orchestrated 5 note section of Theme to Jurassic Park(about 1 minute into the track Welcome to Jurassic Park) similar in style to the full orchestra rendition of the 5 note motif at the end of Ce3K.Maybe thats what he means.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 I may have found it, at 2:56 into Welcome to JP. It's kind of in the middle of a fullblown phrase of the main theme, and on the beat at 2:56 begins five notes that when heard separately from the rest of the music coul sound like the CE3K theme. But it's a stretch, and I would be very surprised if it was deliberate.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 well yes thats what I mean,after the piano part and the music for the pelicans.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 Ah, I gotcha now.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 You can also hear the five notes from CE3K in "The Fortress of Solitude".Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 Really, is that an intentional quotation, or just coincidence.Stefancos- who KNOWS CE3K is not puropsely quoted in JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 Probably a coincidence.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 I think he means at the very end of the Welcome to Jurassic Park cue, when the Carnivore Motif plays very slowly and the title "A Movie by Steven Spielberg" rolls up.I keep calling that motif the Carnivore Motif. That's an invention of mine, since it only seems to represent the "meat-eating" dinosaurs, not just the T-Rex (that scene where the T-Rex chases the jeep) nor the velociraptors (the kitchen scene, f.e.). Anybody agrees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 27, 2003 Share Posted June 27, 2003 hmm,i checked and i meant the part at the 1.35 mark,but guess we should stop bothering about what this nonsence.k.m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted June 27, 2003 Share Posted June 27, 2003 I think he means at the very end of the Welcome to Jurassic Park cue, when the Carnivore Motif plays very slowly and the title "A Movie by Steven Spielberg" rolls up.I keep calling that motif the Carnivore Motif. That's an invention of mine, since it only seems to represent the "meat-eating" dinosaurs, not just the T-Rex (that scene where the T-Rex chases the jeep) nor the velociraptors (the kitchen scene, f.e.). Anybody agrees?That theme ahs a very King-Kong-esque quality to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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