thx99 1,740 Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 I've added a short, higher-quality clip of the "Brokaw #2 (Horns)" sheet music at http://members.cox.net/thx99/williams.htm. You be the judge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Wel,this brings back memory of recording bits and pieces of TV shows and movies on TV with a hand held tape recorder to get to hear a few seconds of hissy Williams music.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaft 2,132 Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Believe it or not, I did that as recently as the Patriot (sad, I know).But it was my IJ: TOD VHS that got the most tape-recorder treatment, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 And people complain about the quality of DVD extracts?John- glad he got into Williams in the digital age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Ah those were the days, playing parts of my Jaws videotape over and over again to get a somewhat acceptable recording.Putting a cheap microphone against a mono TV just does not bring out the best in the music though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 I have a whole tape of JP stuff, including the entire Main Road attack sequence. I just loved the sound design. And I didn't hold a recorder next to the TV, no, I actually hooked up my recorder directly to the VCR. Unfortunately, I hadn't adjusted the left-right balance correctly, and of course the sound is sped up because of the PAL system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 What's the music in the first Mission clip about 1:39 into the video? I dont know what it's called Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Often it's referred to as "orchestal music". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 What's the music in the first Mission clip about 1:39 into the video? I dont know what it's called"Meet the Press" theme,formely called "Pulse of the Events" themeK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxbabe 28 Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 Regarding the music titled "Brokaw #2", with Brokaw stepping down, was wondering why this would be titled as such, instead of "bumper" or just "NBC News" or some such other name.Thought: This little theme could be something done for the special all about Brokaw's life and career "Dateline Presents: Tom Brokaw - Eyewitness to History". It's replaying at 8pmET on MSNBC Sun, Dec. 5.Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 That reminds me, on the Tom Brokaw special that was on last week, there was a tons of Williams film music in it. He cleaned up from the royalties on that show!Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 .Thought: This little theme could be something done for the special all about Brokaw's life and career "Dateline Presents: Tom Brokaw - Eyewitness to History". It's replaying at 8pmET on MSNBC Sun, Dec. 5.Just a thought. I watched part of it,and apart from the movie music as Neil mentions,I didn't hear that new theme in that show.If I'd heard it, I would have known it's Williams.It remains to be seen if this theme will be used at all.NBC is sitting on a bunch of recordings they NEVER use.Like that new Olympic chase like music this summer,it only poped up in teh MSNBC promo for the Olympics and I never heard it again on the air.I'd feel better knowing it might show up in some show's credits,but nowadays credits are cut off or shortened,or always have voice over.So hang on to that video file and MP3.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Williams has written enough music for NBC to take up a good chunk of a whole CD. It all deserves a release as much as the complete scores we're always clamoring for. Maybe someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Ok ,I'm on to something...If you take the 1.54 -2.18 segment of the interview part,that appears to be the ENDING of the new theme since the players do a fade out and stop playing.If you edit it with the 2.42-3.20 segment which is the BEGINNING,you get a 1 minute piece of music with a clean start and a clean ending.Not sure how much is missing in the middle part,but who knows maybe it's a 1 minute piece,since the second part flows well into the first one without any key changes.Now the next part would be getting Williams voice out of there,is that possible since some broadcasts are in 5.1..maybe with a channel separation software....???K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxbabe 28 Posted December 4, 2004 Author Share Posted December 4, 2004 You are SO right. In fact, you could start that ENDING Section at 2:01; because 1:54-2:01 just overlaps the with the end (the trumpet solo) of the beginning section.So they DEFINITELY match up! It makes a clean piece of music, and sounds like it may not have anything missing, because it overlaps with that same exact trumpet solo. A bumper for something probably would be about 1:00 or so.It could easily be cut and done, course the speaking would still be there, that might take some creative editing.Good work K.M.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 I just PM'd you,I guess you got it right thenK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 You are SO right. In fact, you could start that ENDING Section at 2:01; because 1:54-2:01 just overlaps the with the end (the trumpet solo) of the beginning section.:I'm not sure,because in the beginning section the trumpet player repeats that passage with an extra note,so they couldn't overlap.But your right it adds nothing since it is in fact played anyways.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Alright,I'll sent the reconstructed edit of the new theme to whoever will upload it so anyone here can easily download it.Saxebabe is right,now it synchs perfectlyK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Alright,I'll sent the reconstructed edit of the new theme to whoever will upload it so anyone here can easily download it.I've made an edit of the new theme, based on King Mark's and saxbabe409's timings, and have uploaded it to the ever-growing page devoted to the MSNBC broadcast:http://members.cox.net/thx99/williams.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 I think that I may have goofed up in my edit of the theme. I'll revisit it later and upload a new version as necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 eeeek,no!.You missed 5 seconds and mine sounds much better.I'll send it to you so if you want.but the reception on your TV seems better than Saxebabe'sK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 The Definition of True JWfandom.The difference between a true fan and a casual fan lies not in wether you prefer "superficial" blockbuster type scores associated to a popular franchise or a higher percieved level of sophistication found in artsy dramatic type scores,but in the people interested in a barely audible,one minute piece of new Williams music burried under narration and recorded from a static filled TV broadcast.K.M.Who has spoken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 That's beyond fandom to me. More like fanatism. - Marc, glad he doesn't have to make these samples himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 I have not even listened to any of this.Stefancos- who has no interest in the music of "Hart van Nederland" either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 I have not even listened to any of this. so how can you call yourself a true fan when you know there's this 1 minute of music from Williams you have not heard.K.M./ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Here we go with the true fan crap again.Steef, you do realize the Hart van Nederland jingle is something else than a Williams composition, right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Except that when it comes from KM, it never sounds condescending or arrogant . . . more tongue-in-cheek I guess.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Keep silent while I refine my new definition of Truefandom.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 See? Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Keep silent while I refine my new definition of Truefandom.K.M.We await to be taught the TRUE meaning of JWFANdom, my Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 You must first sit through 15 days of Olympic broadcasts to listen for new Williams bumpers,even if you don't like watching the Olympics.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 I don't think we have John Williams bumpers here during the Olympics.Although I did sit through a large portion of the opening ceremonies to the 2002 Olympics, just to see Williams conduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Are we allowed to eat or drink during this time, My Lord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 My definition of Truefandom is completed in the above post.It is ready to be quoted in someones signature.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 I would quote it, but then I would not have enough room for my Superman signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 I would quote it, but then I would not have enough room for my Superman signature.He says as he uses quick reply.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Aren't you dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 I would quote it, but then I would not have enough room for my Superman signature.Better this way.You are not worthy to bare my Word.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Hey, I didn't whine about you being unworthy enough to use that picture in your sig.Stefancos- who's postcount obliterates KM's minor contribution to the MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 You are not worthy to bare my WordSick, dude.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Indeed, i'm beginning to understand why Chrushers mother kicked KM out of her house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 I must have used some slang expression I am unaware about.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 I'm sure Neil will know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 I'm sure Neil will know. A simple typo is more tolerable than misquoting Star Trek II.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 I did not fire, you can not prove anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacey988 0 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 I would just like to say that I saw the feature and I was fascinated at the process, but was slightly disappointed to hear the same concert piece we've all heard before. Yet it was nice to see how it all was made behind the scenes, to hear new music, things like that. I am a collector of several of Williams' soundtracks as well as news themes, and I wish some of my fellow collectors would somehow manage to leak the new NBC themes. I have imagined several new variations on the theme, such as the "NBC News At Sunrise" with the B section of the Mission theme as opposed to the A section at the end of the theme, a brass only fanfare of the "Pulse of Events" signature for "Meet The Press", and possibly a combination of the Mission with Williams' Olympic themes or other NBC News themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Here's my official collection of dismal sounding recordings I need a better version of:Satellite Celebration originalFanfare for a Festive OccasionVariation on Happy BirthdayScherzo for TodayFugue for the Changing TimesEsplanade Overture2004 Olympic Escape from Naboo2004 New NBC Brokaw ThemeE.T. Botanicus(Universal theme ride music)K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeekUYoda 0 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 My definition of Truefandom is completed in the above post.It is ready to be quoted in someones signature.K.M.Give me moment... it shall be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 You are now the Keeper of the Word.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Wow, KM's words with proper spacing and all. Who would've thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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