Josh500 1,615 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 NOT counting the Main Title, what is your favorite part of this long action piece? It contains no big themes (except for the Force Theme, of course), but I like it very, very much. I like the continuous driving force of it. What is your favorite part (please specify). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIEfighter 0 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 I especially like the minute after Grievous´ Theme is played (i believe it´s around 05:00), because it builds up tension in a very enjoyable way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,798 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 A tension that is intended for the comical R2-elevator scene...I would like it if it was complete.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 I like the part with the repeating staccato strings and bass drum at around 3:14 Actually my favorite part is where those buzz droid things land on the ship and R2 fights them -- around 6:10 on the "complete" version - right up to the rebel fanfare--very exciting part. Just a shame it was left out of the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 I especially like the minute after Grievous´ Theme is played (i believe it´s around 05:00), because it builds up tension in a very enjoyable way That's what I was gonna say as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 215 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 I like the beggining, before the force theme, and everything from grievous' theme onward to the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 "Boys into Battle." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo 0 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 I like the part with the repeating staccato strings and bass drum at around 3:14 same...I like that part. isnt the bass drum is those Japanese big drum? I especially like the minute after Grievous´ Theme is played (i believe it´s around 05:00), because it builds up tension in a very enjoyable wayI like that part as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Random observation: One of these Coruscant battle cues, probably the first one (1M3 Boys Into Battle) is the one that is described in the score reports as a "cross between the Battle of Yavin and Battle of Hoth", but to me it sounds most like the early Battle of Endor cues, mostly the start of the space battle.John- who enjoys it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Yeah, there are traces of Endor in "They're Coming Around" (usually when those overbearing bass drums take a break) and "Get 'Em, R2!" Big, dramatic brass chords. That's good, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmanand 0 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 I especially like the minute after Grievous´ Theme is played (i believe it´s around 05:00), because it builds up tension in a very enjoyable way Yeah. Particulalrly like those driving rhythmic strings from 6:07 that play for about 20 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennwbutler 0 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 My favorite section is the rendition of the Force theme at the very beginning. I went into this score prepared to hate every bit of it, but that section impressed me (while the transition out of the TPM "Main Title" recording most certainly did not--in the movie or on the CD). I was actually looking forward to seeing how the section would fare in the movie, and I suppose that other than being almost completely buried under engine revving it was all right.Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 The entire track is fantastic to cycle to (I've cropped out the Main Title for my mp3 player). The Force Theme opening is fantastic and adrenaline-pumping, the crescendos perfect for climbing a hill and the subsequent Grevious-themed sections (especially those turning string phrases) are great for the low-gear pedalling! Love the whole cue.Does anybody know how to sync the end parts to the scenes they're intended to score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted June 17, 2005 Author Share Posted June 17, 2005 I like the brief trumpet solo at 4:04 and what follows. But the whole piece is genuinely amazing . . . more so than Zam the Assassin if you ask me (although Zam has some great moments, as well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Does anybody know how to sync the end parts to the scenes they're intended to score?For the first section (4:46-5:21):Start on the cut to the bridge, just before we see Grievous for the first time.For the second section (5:21-7:31):Start on the cut from the exterior to the interior of the elevator just before it stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisomer 0 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 most definalty when the force theme comes in at the beggining, and also (no on the cd) when we hear the rebellion motif after R2 destroys the buzz droid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYPHER 1 Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Okay, how come no one has complained about the intense similarities between sections of this piece of music and The Rite of Spring? Not that that's a bad thing necessarily, but the 'homage' does feel a bit blatant. My favourite part however would have to be those solo drum beats between the end of the Main Title and the start of the proceeding music. Such a spectacular and almost iconoclastic way to open the score and the film, these war drums serving as a perfect accompaniment to the ribald excalamation of "War!" that heralded the opening of the title scroll. Would it've been too much to put these ten seconds on the album? CYPHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 I like it too. Just a short moment of calm before we dive into the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,798 Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 they may be tracked by burrt, using later drum beats from Williams, that may have been recorded sepparately because of overlapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmanand 0 Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 TBH the drum beats are not exactly complex musically, so it might be that Burtt recorded, added and synced them all himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Those drums were probably tracked in, replacing the first few seconds of post-Main Title music on the CD. The first thing after the drums in the film is the huge statement of the Force Theme. And the missing part on the CD was tracked in later when the Clone Troopers arrive to fight Grievous' driods on Utapau. :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 My favourite part however would have to be those solo drum beats between the end of the Main Title and the start of the proceeding music. Such a spectacular and almost iconoclastic way to open the score and the film, these war drums serving as a perfect accompaniment to the ribald excalamation of "War!" that heralded the opening of the title scroll. Would it've been too much to put these ten seconds on the album?Skip to 3:13 of "Star Wars and The Revenge of the Sith." Sound familiar? That's right, it's a tracking job.Cerrabore - big fan of the album version "Main Title" segue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Tracked or not, I still like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,798 Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 I like it too, and thank goodness it can be credited by Williams, since burtt stole it from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYPHER 1 Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Hmm... interesting detective work guys. Oh well, it's about time Ben Burtt did something decent with the music! CYPHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,798 Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Yeah at least we can hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deimos 0 Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 I thought the drums were Burtt's, specially since we learned he plays drum on church.So what do you think? Williams intended to open the movie the album way and then Lucas/Burtt changed it, or was always planned that way?I mean, it's Shawn Murphy who mixes the music, right? So Burtt would have access to the drums alone only if they were intended to be alone somewhere in the score (unless the were recorded alone, then mixed, and Burtt asked for them to Murphy afterwars since he liked them; I'm not sure about how this process works).I think the drums are also somewhere in the score in an unreleased piece; i think it was the arrival to somewhere, but with so many arrivals in this movie I can't recall which one was it.I think the missing part after the Main Title is indeed track in the arrival of clones to Utapau but not all of it I think. I also like very much the album version of the segue, but losing a 5 movie tradition... The drums work fine, though the tone of the album versions is much more aproppiate for the PS2 ship battle that comes afterwards; the drums are too dramatic I think, they work perfectly though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 It wasn't meant to open the album way. You'll notice the album version doesn't sync up to the film (the sharp brass after the main title comes in too soon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,798 Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Not really, the 'new music' starts when the letters fade and the force theme starts right when it should.It doesnt fit the action, since it is not happening any action, but thinking of it, we know there is war there, so maybe that's why it shouds that way, and the militaristic thing is not that bad for the Cruiser camera pan.And aobut the isolated drums: it was mentioned some percusion was to be recorded sepparately due to overimposing sounds in the recording session review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 It wasn't meant to open the album way. You'll notice the album version doesn't sync up to the film (the sharp brass after the main title comes in too soon).It does sync up. The trumpet screams (eh... screams. I dunno) end and the militaristic march starts the second the starship appears. And the Force theme comes in right on cue. Works very well, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony69 0 Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 after watching ROTS, i have to say OMG, R2 is THE COOLEST DROID EVAR! I love his amazing skillz. I wish R2 did that in Episode 6. Come on think about it. Imagine he poured oil all over Jabba and fired it! It would be so cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Well the fact that he could do all those things and somehow lost all his powers between ROTS and SW isn't a good thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYPHER 1 Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Too right! LOL As much as I thing giving Artoo too much attitude and too many accessories in the prequels was a questionable idea, I did think he was the best thing about ROTS. He was an absolute scream, especially on Grievous' ship. Skip to 3:13 of "Star Wars and The Revenge of the Sith." Sound familiar? That's right, it's a tracking job.Hmm... I listened to this track again tonight, and even though I didn't have a timer, I think I know the bit you're talking about. It's the Rite of Spring percussion pulse. Interesting... I've just finished re-listening to Attack of the Clones and now I'm going to dive back into Revenge of the Sith and hopefully reap the benefits of a little bit of thematic continuity. CYPHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,798 Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 The beats are in the music part that scores the scene that stars when the missiles turn arround after missing the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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