JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 I am not asking if you like them, you must take each individual film and evaluate it on its own.Simply do you watch old b&w movies. I don't mean Schindler's List, or any other film that uses b&w as a gimmick of sorts.And if you say yes, tell us some of your favorites, and why. Joe, who was pleased Morn mentioned the Bad Seed in another thread, and gave me this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 I actually watch them for three reasons.Most of the time, they are better than people think.It reminds me of being with my dad. When there's nothing else on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 I watch them quite a lot, I saw Psycho today And Joe, I haven't even seen The Bad Seed As much as I'd like to. I was just refering to the score by Alex North Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spielberg-Fan 0 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 I saw The Treasure Of Sierra Madre the other day, and I loved it. I don't know why some people think a good film has to be in color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 All About Eve, The Defiant Ones, Whatever Happed to Baby Jane?, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?All three viewed in the last two weeks. Great films. They really knew how to make 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 well this poll is going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 The Maltese FalconThe Big Sleep CasablancaNotoriousTo Kill a Mocking BirdPsychoTresure of Sierra MadreCitizen KaneMetropolisthose are some of my favorites. i can go on and on but i'll stop there... for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo 2 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Hell, yes!City LightsThe GeneralPotemkinNosferatuMetropolisNapoleonThe Birth of a NationThe Black PirateThe EagleKing KongThe Bride of FrankensteinThe Mask of Fu ManchuWhite ZombieLittle CaesarPublic EnemyDouble IndemnityM.HorsefeathersDuck SoupA Midsummer Night's DreamThe Prisoner of ZendaCaptain BloodGunga DinThe Lives of a Bengal LancerThe General Died at DawnThe Mark of Zorro The Hunchback of Notre DameAlexander NevskyWuthering HeightsGreat ExpectationsOliver TwistHobson's ChoiceWhite HeatThe Maltese FalconCasablancaThe Big SleepCitizen KaneThe Magnificent AmbersonsThe WolfmanIt Happened One NightBringing Up BabyWoman of the YearThe Sea HawkThe Grapes of WrathMy Darling ClementineDodge CityKings RowKiss of DeathThe Best Years of Our LivesThe Philadelphia StoryHolidayHoliday InnThe Lady EveSullivan's TravelsMr. Deeds Goes to TownMr. Smith Goes to WashingtonSergeant YorkOnly Angels Have WingsIt's a Wonderful LifeThe Bicycle ThiefMiracle in MilanNow, VoyagerDeceptionTo Have and Have NotThe Treasure of the Sierra MadreThe Man Who Came to DinnerThe Miracle of Morgan's CreekThe Farmer's DaughterThe Bishop's WifeLauraKey LargoChildren of ParadiseRuy BlasLa Belle et la BeteOrpheeThe ThingThe Sea WolfThe Ghost and Mrs. MuirGaslightOn Dangerous GroundOn the WaterfrontSpellboundNotoriousRebeccaSuspicionSaboteurForeign CorrespondentStrangers on a TrainShadow of a DoubtAll About EveA Streetcar Named DesireThe Day the Earth Stood StillInvasion of the Body SnatchersI VitelloniNights of CabiriaLa StradaRashomonThe Seven SamuraiThe Seventh SealThe Virgin SpringThe Devil's DiscipleYojimboPsychoA Touch of EvilCape FearNight of the HunterChildren of the DamnedThe Man Who Shot Liberty ValanceTo Kill a MockingbirdFail-SafeDr. StrangeloveFigo, clearly a man who doesn't watch old movies just "when there's nothing else on TV." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,240 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Sure do. Why not?One of the strangest discussions I ever had was with two friends who say they don't watch B&W movies because they can't believe them. They also don't watch Hitchcock films because they can't believe in characters walking around in clothes like those.I think many people simply don't know how to watch movies, just like many people obviously don't know how to listen to music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Yes its not something I make a habit of but I have seen several black and white films. It does not bother me that much not having color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 15, 2002 Author Share Posted August 15, 2002 Morn, and all others I urge you to seek out the Bad Seed, and watch this dark, disturbing, and almost psychotically funny film about true evil in the form of a child. Wonderful stuff.Search out films that arn't the standard "classics". There are tons of b&w films that are special that arn't Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Maltese Falcon, or Its a Wonderful Life.Others to watch are Night of the Hunter with Shelly Winters, and Robert Mitchum. A bit hokey but beautifully shot and with a some real tense moments. The Man Who Came to Dinner. If you don't think old films can be as funny as those today, try this one. Its shown on tv alot during the holidays because it takes place at Christmas, and as I have said before Monty Wolley and Mary Wickes are hysterical on the screen together. Betty White is great in a comedic role.Dark Victory is a true chick flick, but its entertaining for the guys, and the end it just upliftingly sad. Sound contridictory, but watch and you'll see I am correct.And if you have never seen Frankenstein and the Bride of Frankenstein, watch them. Rent and watch, see them as audiences must have seen them back in the 30's. Bride of Frankenstein, is simply at the top of the craft of filmmaking. Rebecca is Hitchcock at his absolute finest. This is a stunningly great film.Them, is simply the greatest grade B horror film ever made.The Day the Earth Stood Still is probably the best pre 70's scifi film ever made, and one of the great films of the 50's.So many of the b&w films were elegantly shot, the cinematography reached a level that few color films even attempt to reach today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 15, 2002 Author Share Posted August 15, 2002 Yes its not something I make a habit of but I have seen several black and white films. It does not bother me that much not having color.But you do have color. B&W films are not just b&w, they are shades of gray, and white, and black. There are shadows that say more than red or blue, or green seemingly can.For those who don't know this Wizard of Oz is not a b&w/color hybrid film.It is a brown and white film. Its called septia tone. Marvelous stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo 2 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 If as many people here watch black and white films as the poll seems to indicate, I wonder why the "favorite scenes" thread is so top-heavy with movies of the post-Star Wars era, when the quality of American filmmaking went into such a steep decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 15, 2002 Author Share Posted August 15, 2002 If as many people here watch black and white films as the poll seems to indicate, I wonder why the "favorite scenes" thread is so top-heavy with movies of the post-Star Wars era, when the quality of American filmmaking went into such a steep decline.Because the new filmmakers of today grew up on mtv video's. Attention spans are so short that a movie that takes time developing is boring and not worth the time or effort. Its really quite sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo 2 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 It's so obvious when watching a film like The Magnificent Ambersons how much is lacking today in terms of pure technique. Spielberg is one of the only guys around who still knows how to put a shot together, or how to edit a scene. I can't tell you how many "action" films I've seen in the last fifteen years where I can't tell for the life of me where everyone is supposed to be in relation to everyone else, because directors simply don't have a clue how to block out and film a scene. They set it up like a perfume commercial, and then leave the rest to the editor and the soundman and the special effects people, and to the wailing heavy metal guitars on the soundtrack. They get away with so much simply by overwhelming an audience's senses. I don't know if there's anyone else around who could have pulled off the Omaha Beach landing in SPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 good point, Figo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,064 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 A few of my favorite B&W films:King KongMighty Joe YoungGojira (1954)PsychoBeast from 20000 FathomsThem!Dr. StrangeloveLolitaand pretty much every other movie mentioned on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 If as many people here watch black and white films as the poll seems to indicate, I wonder why the "favorite scenes" thread is so top-heavy with movies of the post-Star Wars era, when the quality of American filmmaking went into such a steep decline.I think there's a difference, though slight. You're mentioning favorite scenes, which for me all exist post-1980. As far as movies go, the same holds simply because I was raised in the MTV era. For my brother, who is 10 years older, he frequently talks about all those B movies he loved going to when he was younger, and how he loved watching the Irwin allen disaster flm son the big screen. So it has some effect on your generation.But, the best movies created....a good lot of them are from the 1950-1970 golden age. And even those from the MTV era could agree with that.Jeff -- who is going to watch Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid -- definitely belonging to the aforementioned best movies list -- tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo 2 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 How old do you think I am? The difference is probably the fact that I grew up before the cable explosion. At the time of my childhood in the 1970s, old movies were shown on TV with regularity, so I kind of grew up with classics of the '30s and '40s, just as some of you guys grew up with Jurassic Park. To me, The Adventures of Robin Hood and Star Wars were equally "contemporary" experiences.Then again, if that weren't the case, I still like to think I would have had the good taste to recognize how great the old films were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 15, 2002 Author Share Posted August 15, 2002 It sorta like Star Wars is Coke or PepsiWhile Attack of the Clones is Sam Choice. They don't taste the same.Old b&w movies is like good ole home cooking, while so many of the new movies are made from tofu. It might have a nice shape and form, but it lacks any real taste of its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mari 279 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 I love the old black and white movies! I grew up watching the old Errol Flynn swashbuckling movies (Captain Blood, The Sea Hawk) and the Astaire/Rogers musicals (Top Hat, The Gay Divorcee). As a child I watched because they were fun. As an adult I can appreciate the more technical aspects and still find them fun to watch!p.s. Great list Figo!Mari Violin Concerto 1 (Sibelius) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Occasionally.Justin -Who has nothing else to say at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 Kurosawa and Mizoguchi in b&w (Yojimbo, etc.), Paths of Glory, Psycho, Andrei Rublev, Bronenosez Potemkin, and............................................................................................................Frankenheimer's THE TRAIN. :flamebob: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 All About Eve, ......Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?All three viewed in the last two weeks. Great films. They really knew how to make 'em.And those 2 have great scores Citizen Kane Herrmann! And perhaps the best movie ever! Way better than that Casablanca tripe Captain BloodI saw that a few weeks ago, seemed childish but a lot of fun Gunga Din Not bad, I much prefer Indy 2 though The Day the Earth Stood StillThey sure don't make UFO films like they used to One of the strangest discussions I ever had was with two friends who say they don't watch B&W movies because they can't believe them. They also don't watch Hitchcock films because they can't believe in characters walking around in clothes like those. Sounds like a very ignorant statement, they merely need to get used to them.Search out films that arn't the standard "classics". There are tons of b&w films that are special that arn't Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Maltese Falcon, or Its a Wonderful Life. Seem em all but It's a Wonderful Life.If as many people here watch black and white films as the poll seems to indicate, I wonder why the "favorite scenes" thread is so top-heavy with movies of the post-Star Wars era, when the quality of American filmmaking went into such a steep decline.Style equals scenes, old films equal clever stories. Plus, people are more familar with newer films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 16, 2002 Author Share Posted August 16, 2002 To the 3 that said no, you really should explain yourself, that way we don't think of you as losers.Joe, who thinks that they ARE losers. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo 2 Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 They are losers. That's why they are wise not to reveal themselves. Morn, on the other hand, is a brazen loser, and he doesn't care who knows it. He seems to think a film like Casablanca is inferior to Citizen Kane. Why? Because the latter is more artfully done? Sure, Orson Welles was a frigging genius -- he was 25 when he made Kane -- and it is one of the most impressive American movies ever, but comparing it to Casablanca is like saying Michelangelo is better than that hack N.C. Wyeth. Granted, Casablanca was crafted as popular entertainment, but it is none the worse for that. Michael Curtiz was one of the most efficient and chameleonic directors in Hollywood. Not only was he responsible for Casablanca -- a great film -- but he directed innumerable classics starring Bogart, Errol Flynn, Bette Davis, James Cagney, John Wayne and many more. In fact, an impressive ratio of the films he helmed have passed on into legend. Captain Blood, Anthony Adverse (uncredited), The Charge of the Light Brigade, The Adventures of Robin Hood (replaced William Keighley), Dodge City, The Private Lives of Elizabeth and Essex, The Sea Hawk, The Sea Wolf, Yankee Doodle Dandy, Casablanca, Mildred Pierce and The Comancheros. That's as good a record as anyone working today, and better than most.I saw [Captain Blood] a few weeks ago, seemed childish but a lot of fun.You mean, like Star Wars? LOL [Gunga Din was] not bad, I much prefer Indy 2 though. ROTFL They sure don't make UFO films like they used toAt least, not since CE3K and E.T.. Sounds like a very ignorant statement...That's the pot calling the kettle black!...they merely need to get used to them. :roll: Style equals scenes, old films equal clever stories.This is quite possibly the most ignorant statement in a truly impressive stream of ignorance. Yes, a very high percentage of old films -- certainly higher than those today -- sport clever stories. But for all their sound and fury, very few modern movies can match the style of Citizen Kane, The Magnificent Ambersons, or even Casablanca, and that's a fact. Watch Casablanca again, Morn, and pay attention to how it's put together. Considering the cast and crew didn't know from one day to the next what rewrites would be coming their way, the film is a goddam masterpiece. Great cast, great characters, moving story, incredible atmosphere and cinematography, memorable music, fascinating special effects -- a real classic in every respect. Before you go doling out judgments, Morn, you might want to know a thing or two about what it is you are criticizing. You can't go through life tossing off comments like "Tchaikovsky is overrated, try Prokofiev," and expect to be taken seriously.Kurosawa rocks!!!!!Figo, Sanjuro of words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 The Longest Day....oh wait, that's not B&W.Stefancos- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Five Tones 302 Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 In addition to Figo's massive list, the majority of which I've seen and of which ...Earth Stood Still is my fav, especially for Herrmann's cutting edge score, here are 10 more wonderful B&W titles:Le Voyage dans la lune (Georges Méliès, 1902)Tell Your Children (aka Reefer Madness, Louis J. Gasnier, 1936)Hellzapoppin (H.C. Potter, 1941)Zemlya (aka Earth, Aleksandr Dovzhenko, 1930)The Shape of Things To Come (aka Things To Come, William Cameron Menzies, 1936)The 39 Steps (Hitchcock, 1935)Sullivan's Travels (Preston Sturges, 1942)A bout de souffle (aka Breathless, Jean-Luc Godard, 1960)The Misfits (Huston, 1961)Black Like Me (Carl Lerner, 1964) - more notorious than great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo 2 Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 If you'd like, I could waste another fifteen minutes of my life listing more.Figo, who watched After the Thin Man before bed.Not a great movie, but extremely entertaining. The Coen brothers would be in heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 Are you serious? Some of the best films I have ever seen are B&W.including:All About EveCaptain BloodPhiladelphia StoryBringing Up BabySabrinaRoman HolidayNow VoyagerCasablancaWoman Of The YearThe WomenDesk SetThe African QueenThe Sea HawkPride and PrejudiceHolidaySullivans TravelsLauraVertigoKey LargoThe Ghost and Mrs. MuirToo many to list.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo 2 Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 The African Queen and Vertigo were in color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 He seems to think a film like Casablanca is inferior to Citizen Kane. Now hang on, I don't ever remember saying inferior. All I remember saying is that I like Citizen Kane a whole lot more. And my reasons are not that Citizen Kane is more artful, if you notice my list of favourite movies, it's a mix of artful and entertainment films. You mean, like Star Wars? Yes But takes it's self a little less seriously.At least, not since CE3K and E.T.. Ohh, maybe, it's smarter than ET and better than CE3K, in my opinion But for all their sound and fury, very few modern movies can match the style of Citizen Kane, The Magnificent Ambersons, or even Casablanca, and that's a fact.Sound and fury is what I am talking about. Modern films tend to have more jazzy visuals and more fury. That means you get scenes that are over done. Citizen Kane might have a great style, but it doesn't over do it.great charactersWhich??? Perhaps great for one liners.moving story LOL incredible atmosphereBah, it was bleak and strange, I disliked it. Plus I thought the film had an over done romance that was sort of... too grand and set up to feel real so that you could relate to it. Infact, the film had too much style and that made it impersonal, for me at least. I just couldn't relate to it at all, nor could I related to the characters in it, they clashed with me in some way. Except for the pianoist But I must say, I've only seen it once. And a while ago.Before you go doling out judgments, Morn, you might want to know a thing or two about what it is you are criticizing. You can't go through life tossing off comments like "Tchaikovsky is overrated, try Prokofiev," and expect to be taken seriouslyI didn't expect to be taken seriously. It was just my subjective opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo 2 Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 No, Morn, I believe you said:Way better than that Casablanca tripeThat would seem to indicate you think Kane "superior." Stick to your guns, worm.You want jazzy visuals? I think Citizen Kane is one of the most over-the-top films ever made. Also, A Touch of Evil. Orson Welles was not exactly one for understatement. You're mistaking that technological overload I mentioned earlier with genuine intensity. The older directors had more craft at their fingertips. They knew how to manipulate every aspect of the filmmaking process to achieve the effect they wanted. They didn't have the razor-sharp editing we have today, or the we'll-touch-it-up-later-on-the-computer attitude. These guys were elegant craftsmen. It's the difference between buying a home back then, and one built today. Everything now is fast, cheap, and out-of-control. Nobody needs to lavish any care over anything, as long as it gets done. Why bother with such niceties as story in your summer blockbuster, as long as it's ready for release in May? The masses will line up around the block to guzzle whatever vomit is churned out for the next few weeks, the studios will make their money, and then it's on to the next product.You think Casablanca is more stylized than Citizen Kane? Are you serious? Are you sure you are applying the descriptions "strange" and "bleak" to the right film? Every character in Casablanca is unforgettable. It features the quintessential Bogart cynic-with-a-heart-of-gold, a nefarious Sidney Greenstreet, a weasly, proto-Buscemi Peter Lorre, and Claude Rains in one of his best roles. If you don't like the atmosphere, you must really hate Raiders of the Lost Ark. The sequences in Nepal and Cairo remind me very much of Casablanca. You criticize the grandeur of the romantic elements, and yet I can think of few characters in the entire history of cinema grander than Charles Foster Kane. "Strange" and "bleak" are terms I would more likely apply to the blockbuster hits of today, like Robocop, Highlander, Total Recall, The Crow, Starship Troopers, Blade and A.I.. There is nothing ennobling in any one of these. There is a tragic grandeur to Kane, and the resolution of Casablanca is one of the most cathartic in all of movies.I seriously think you need to see these films again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 The African Queen and Vertigo were in color. Ocelot probably saw them on his old B&w TV.Stefancos- who's sure Psycho is in color to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 Ocelot probably saw them on his old B&w TV.Stefancos- who's sure Psycho is in color to. Ha, ha, ha.And Perfect Murder is in color too! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 No, only new black and white movies. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanED 1 Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 If as many people here watch black and white films as the poll seems to indicate, I wonder why the "favorite scenes" thread is so top-heavy with movies of the post-Star Wars era, when the quality of American filmmaking went into such a steep decline.Because the new filmmakers of today grew up on mtv video's. Attention spans are so short that a movie that takes time developing is boring and not worth the time or effort. Its really quite sadIt's more than just that though... the other explanation (equally valid I think) is that that's what people see. Most people make regular treks to the movie theater, and it's rare that you'll see an old movie played.I've seen (somewhat recently; i.e. in the last year) Casablanca, A Night To Remember, and To Kill a Mockingbird, and perhaps another one. I don't see many movies period, so my B&W list is even smaller. I should also mention that I refuse to watch colorized versions of B&W movies. In fact the sole reason I didn't get the To Kill a Mockingbird DVD shortly after watching it is because I thought it was only avaliable in a colorized version (but looking at the Amazon page now to make sure, I'm not so sure; anyone have this?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 The Longest Day....oh wait, that's not B&W. Ummmm yeah it is. BTW dude nothing personal but could you go back to that smaller sig pic you had before? I am not trying to bust your chops or anything. I just feel there should be a limit on how large a sig pic should be. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 I've seen a colour version of The Longest Day. Must have been colourised.That would seem to indicate you think Kane "superior." Stick to your guns, worm. Yes, but only in a subjective way.You're mistaking that technological overload I mentioned earlier with genuine intensity.Not quite, I am suggesting that others do You think Casablanca is more stylized than Citizen Kane? Are you serious?The difference is that Citizen Kane is totally another world. Casablanca makes ordinary things highly stylized.If you don't like the atmosphere, you must really hate Raiders of the Lost Ark. The sequences in Nepal and Cairo remind me very much of Casablanca.My least favourite Indy movie. And there are parts of it that I find quite dull."Strange" and "bleak" are terms I would more likely apply to the blockbuster hits of today, like Robocop, Highlander, Total Recall, The Crow, Starship Troopers, Blade and A.I.. There is nothing ennobling in any one of these. It's the type of strange of bleakness though Casablanca has this... nostalgia mixed with bleakness.. uck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanED 1 Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 The IMDB reports that The Longest Day is in B&W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 The IMDB reports that The Longest Day is in B&W.Efectively. The only Longest Day I know and have seen is the black and white one.There is no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 Geez....i'm surrounded by ignorants here.OFF COURSE The Longest Day in a B&W film.But it was one of those films that fel victim to that colorization fad in the late 80's, early 90's (if i'm not mistaken)Ted Turner has a lot to anwser for.Stefancos- who finds colorization....distracting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruckhorn 105 Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 I should also mention that I refuse to watch colorized versions of B&W movies. In fact the sole reason I didn't get the To Kill a Mockingbird DVD shortly after watching it is because I thought it was only avaliable in a colorized version (but looking at the Amazon page now to make sure, I'm not so sure; anyone have this?).I, too, refuse to watch colorized films. I figure any movie made after 1935 (or so) could have been made in color, so if it wasn't there was probably a reason for it (granted, most of the time the reason would be money-- that's why Kevin Smith's Clerks was done in b/w).If the movie is good, why not see it? The people that refuse to watch b/w movies, citing the "fakeness" of it need to be informed about an exchange that Hitchcock had. He was told that he needed music under a scene that took place in a lifeboat. His argument against it was that there was no explanation of where the orchestra was. The counter argument: When you explain how the camera got out there to film it, I'll explain the orchestra.Quite frankly, I prefer b/w photography. (Not color with the color drained out.) A few years back when some family members were strongly encouraging me to give them recent photos of myself, I had them taken in b/w. I wanted a noir look.I do have To Kill a Mockingbird on DVD. Universal catalogue number 20252. The film is presented in b/w. Even the "Making of" with modern interviews is presented in b/w. An isolated score would have been nice.bruckhorn, who has met Elmer Bernstein and told him that I wished I had footage of him conducting when I got kicked out of conducting class for wanting to do it left handed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanED 1 Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 I figure any movie made after 1935 (or so) could have been made in color, so if it wasn't there was probably a reason for it (granted, most of the time the reason would be money-- that's why Kevin Smith's Clerks was done in b/w). I can't verify this, but I bet that color film for some time after that was too grainy for a good picture. So it wasn't necessarily that the directors said "black and white, or color?" It could have been "good looking black and white, or crummy color?" (Again, I don't know; this is intuition)If the movie is good, why not see it? Of course.Quite frankly, I prefer b/w photography.I think it depends on what you're looking at. Ususally for movies, I find b&w distracting. For stills, both have their advantages.I do have To Kill a Mockingbird on DVD. Universal catalogue number 20252. The film is presented in b/w. Even the "Making of" with modern interviews is presented in b/w. An isolated score would have been nice. All right! Thank you! (:Chants "Must go buy DVD... Must go buy DVD... Must go...":)bruckhorn, who has met Elmer Bernstein and told him that I wished I had footage of him conducting when I got kicked out of conducting class for wanting to do it left handed.Lucky duck. (About the meeting E.B. part; not the getting kicked out of conducting part...)So you're a lefty? Welcome to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo 2 Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 Elmer Bernstein is a god.Figo, who was riding high yesterday afternoon listening to The Comancheros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 Bad colour is better than great B&W in my experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 19, 2002 Author Share Posted August 19, 2002 Bad colour is better than great B&W in my experience That makes you a total loser then Morn.If you can't see the beauty of black and white, then how sad for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 Besides my 20+ odd B&W movies, here are some of the classics that were neglected to be mentioned here:SUNSET BOULEVARD....sheer classSOME LIKE IT HOT....so does AlmaTHE FORTUNE COOKIELOLITATHEM!PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACETHE 3 STOOGES MOVIESTHE LAUREL & HARDY COLLECTIONTHE CHARLIE CHAPLIN COLLECTION.....too numerous to mentionTHE QUATERMASS EXPERIMENT....the original "ALIEN"SHOWGIRLS (that was in color, Hitch)The person who stated that VERTIGO was a black and white should be strung up by his buster browns LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL Hitch JW's CELLO CONCERTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Ohh Ohh Ohh! Lolita and Sunset Boulevard! Love those films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo 2 Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 That's because they're both about perverted sexual realtionships. Careful, boy -- I believe you're falling prey to the Grainger legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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