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  1. Using the substantive events and dialog from TFA, TLJ, and the canon material, I predict that Lucasfilm has much more planned than "a climactic showdown between Rey and Kylo". The overall story/trajectory of the ST will stand to scrutiny. It's everything else that won't, as Lucasfilm chose to be secretive in a devious way. But even when all is said and done, many fans won't appreciate that kind of behavior because they will feel they were tricked.
  2. Not "praising" just yet... just recognizing that Lucasfilm had an elaborate plan for the ST, which can be proven using the new canon material. However, I don't care for their devious ways: trolling/insulting Twitter comments, lying about not having a plan for the ST, allowing the media to run with false narratives ('The disenchanted Star Wars fans are sexist, racist, etc.!'), extending Kathleen Kennedy's contract, implying that SOLO bombed because of 'too much Star Wars')... all without a word of comfort to the upset/worried/confused fans. Also, I truly think the disgraceful Galaxy of Adventures was made primarily to harden the upset fans' disdain for Disney Star Wars. I'm very interested to see how Lucasfilm - particularly JJ - handles the fan reaction to TROS, in the context of the ST and overall Saga. If he does what I think he's going to do, there's going to be a shit-storm of a response.
  3. I'll say it again: In isolation, the Original Star Wars Trilogy is complete. However, the Saga is most certainly incomplete. Allow me to explain. The Emperor, the Sith Master, was shown to have been thrown down a shaft, followed by an explosion. Anakin Sykwalker was redeemed, having turned back to the Light Side of the Force. The Special Edition of ROTJ implied that the Empire was defeated, but 'the Republic being reestablished' was not shown. Not a single thread was left dangling? These threads remain: - In Revenge of the Sith, the Emperor spoke of creating life, cheating death, and being afraid to loose power. "It's ironic, he could save others from death - but not himself." The Emperor tempted Anakin to the Dark Side with promised assistance and attainable Force powers that would be the answer to Anakin's problems and the explanation for his existence - not a "minor plot-point". - Why did the Emperor expose himself to such precarious circumstances? Upon arriving to a battle station that he knew would be imminently attacked by the same fighting force that destroyed the first Death Star, he trusted his apprentice to summon Luke Skywalker to be turned to the Dark Side. Once face-to-face, the Emperor tempted Luke to kill him in anger. Father and son were then pitted against each other. If Luke defeated Vader, Sidious would take on a new, stronger apprentice. If Luke would "not turn", he would "be destroyed". Since Luke did not finish Vader and would "never turn to the Dark Side", The Emperor chose to kill the new Jedi Knight... and expected Vader to do nothing, only watch as his son was tortured while crying out to him for help. A bit risky, wouldn't you say? I wonder why The Emperor was willing put himself in extreme danger in so many ways? (Actually, I don't.) - As "the last of the Jedi", what does Luke choose to do with his new responsibility? - With the Sith destroyed, how can the Force be in Balance if only the Jedi remain? - Was the Prophecy of the Chosen One fulfilled... or was it "misread", as Yoda suggested? As you can see, many threads were already quite 'loose' or entirely unresolved. The Rise of Skywalker will make sense of the entire sequel trilogy and prove that the original hexalogy was, indeed, unresolved. Finally @Chen G., care to present evidence that 'having a plan is more commercially dangerous than not having one'?
  4. Until you present factual evidence, your statement that "having a plan is more commercially dangerous than not having one" is just a theory. JJ even stated that the backlash to TLJ did not affect his writing of TROS. The real risk was presenting the films in this manner, as most have assessed them as unpredictable and/or deliberately subversive. Many people expected a Hero's Journey. Many others think that Disney has been incompetent in presenting this trilogy cohesively, mainly due to the fact that they do not understand the context of the story, setting, and characters as they relate to the overall Saga... and have decided not to give it much thought. This has resulted in mass disappointment and confusion. Of course, these same people could have spent a little time thinking, reflecting, researching, or simply been patient until Episode IX comes out. But in this day of social media obsession, the default action seems to be to lash out in anger, argue, and/or primarily listen to others with which one agrees. This has lead nowhere, except stubbornness and ignorance. @Chen G. How you think the Saga is complete if the Prequel Trilogy is taken into account, specifically regarding the Balance of the Force?
  5. Using facts and logic, I am sure, @Chen G.. How are you so sure that I'm incorrect in my assessments? What have I said that you disagree with? Want to have a crack at answering my questions within my posts on this page, specifically how the Saga is finished when incorporating the Prequels into the overall story? Or are you now only going to respond to me sarcastically? Also, what kind of company repeatedly exclaims that they don't have a plan regarding a multi-billion-dollar movie franchise? Answer: A company with a plan - deceiving the masses through to the end - for maximum impact. A bit trIXie, wouldn't you say? I'll even bet that Mark Hamill was in on this deception from the beginning. All his many appearances in which he was upset at the direction of Luke Skywalker were an act, with Lucasfilm paying him well to maintain it. Shortly after IX comes out, he will reveal this in his Joker voice.
  6. The completed ST will make sense of the perceived chaos ("No plan!"), which will lead many previously-apprehensive parents to finally accept Star Wars under Disney. Many of these parents will then confidently show the new Star Wars content (movies, shows, games, etc.) it to their children, who will become new SW fans. At least Disney hopes this will be the case.
  7. Yes, that's the big twist. I recognized that Rey was not on the Hero's Journey. JJ is not going to to alter her story in the final Episode, at least from what he originally intended. "Rise of the Skywalker" is a dumb title. The actual title is "The Rise of Skywalker". 'Audiences will only realize it was incomplete in the process of watching TROS' because they missed all if the clues in TFA that hint at the plot... notably the scene featuring Kylo speaking to Darth Vader's helmet: "Show me again the power of the Dark." "I will finish what you started." And then to his father: "I know what I have to do, but I don't know if I have the strength to do it. Will you help me?" Then in TLJ: Kylo betrayed his master, told Rey to 'let go of the past', and asked her to join him again. Why do you suppose he did those things? The trilogy was presented as a mystery... not "made clear" on purpose. If the Sequel Trilogy's plot was made immediately evident, it would not have been nearly as intriguing or memorable. Once again... considering the OT in isolation, I would agree that the story had reached its conclusion with Return of the Jedi. However, the Prequels shed new light on the overall story. With the Sith destroyed (at the end of ROTJ), only the Jedi remained. In the Star Wars galaxy, that is not balance. The Saga was not complete. Hence, the Sequel Trilogy justifies its existence. @Chen G. How did Luke 'pass on what he had learned' in TLJ? He said, "It's time for the Jedi to end." If JJ does what I think he has in store, the ST will have major sticking power. While TLJ contains substantive elements, its undesirable/unexpected moments distracted and clouded the minds of many. (It happened to me, but I have seen through Lucasfilm's charade.) It ruined nothing*. All will make sense in the end. * except for lightspeed being used as a weapon Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design. - The Emperor in ROTJ
  8. 'The Emperor being brought back' is the reason that "the six previous films were incomplete." Hint: The 'Opera Scene' from ROTS. In TFA: Rey was presented as having no explanation for affinity for the Force... and had no natural heritage (just like Anakin, who was implied to have been created by Palpatine or his master). Snoke and Kylo were intrigued with her existence and seemed to know something (that they didn't specify). Anakin's lightsaber 'called to' Rey - the lightsaber that the newly-appointed Darth Vader used to fight Obi-Wan, as well as kill Jedi at the Jedi temple... at the behest of Palpatine. In TLJ: Rey selfishly went "straight to the Dark" against Luke's commands to "resist it". The Dark Side cave mirrors showed her reflection only: that she has/had no parents. She pulled Anakin's lightsaber on Luke as a threat and then, with Kylo's saber, tried to kill Snoke in anger. The Emperor's Theme was played note-for-note as she was tortured by Snoke. The new canon material - released starting in 2015 - specifically mentions Palpatine numerous times... specifically on Jakku, constructing a Contingency laboratory... that came into play during the massive Battle of Jakku, which resulted in the final blow to the Empire. This proves that Palpatine was planned to return (in some way) from the inception of the Sequel Trilogy. Everything was planned meticulously. This is indisputable. The working title for Episode IX was trIXie. Once TROS is out, people will realize that this title was chosen quite deliberately. Ultimately, the Sequel Trilogy will be much different than "what they already had". In presenting this trilogy in the way they have, it's clear that maximum profit was not the film-makers' intent. I never implied that the parks would loose money. I can spoil the movie, if you want. Once you've seen TROS, you will need to revise this statement. Only considering the OT (in isolation), I would agree. But with the Prequels shedding new light on the overall story, can you explain how you think Episode VI concluded the Saga? You will realize that the sequel trilogy did not "lack in an overarching plan". The substantive events and character actions in TFA and TLJ - as they relate to each other, the canon material, and the first six Episodes - prove they had a plan. The Sequel Trilogy is not Rey's. She did not receive Jedi training, nor is she on the Hero's Journey. You might be onto something, there.
  9. Well, the sessions haven't taken place yet. But I've familiarized myself with the substantive events of the films and canon material... and formulated what I (firmly) believe will be the plot of IX. If I'm right, TROS will be... quite surprising to nearly everyone.
  10. I do think Williams will write such a variation... but it will not sound the way most are expecting. Good... because I'm sure that TROS (the film and score) will be full of 'subverted expectation' moments. We are in for quite a ride!
  11. Yes, it will be good when I am proven right. I find it ironic that someone named 'Score' can't recognize the notes and themes that John Williams so carefully chose to hint at Rey's origin and/or destiny... foretold to him by JJ. Although you said you would "disengage" from the conversation, you repeatedly feel the need to contradict me. I didn't bother reading your Battle of Hoth analysis since you have nothing to prove to me. I've done my research and can see the writing on the wall, so it would probably be best if I contributed less... so as not to ruin the film/score surprises for most here.
  12. Two more thoughts on the teaser: 1. I think Luke is speaking to Ben - not Rey. 2. The opening sequence is Ben trying to prevent Rey from entering the Jakku Contingency facility, where she would discover the truth of her past/origin, gain a dangerous power, and/or resurrect Palpatine... perhaps unknowingly.
  13. I was correct in my general observations. In addition to what I already noted, the end of the The Scavenger has the notes F#, D, B in that order. The F# is a half-step off from the G that would have formed the major triad from Vader Motif from The Imperial March, other Vader - and Emperor Theme references - can be found with the scores. I hear many more references than "similarities based on fragments of just two notes"... because they are factually present. If you honestly think that John Williams composed all of it unintentionally, without rhyme or reason, I will assume you are either ignorant of how Williams composes, that you underestimate JJ Abrams and his respect and admiration of John Williams, and/or that you believe that Lucasfilm would have approached the conclusion of the Star Wars Saga without a plan for the lead character. I already know I'm right, but it seems as though it will all have to be proven to you in December based on the contents of the film and its score. I have nothing else to say on the matter. Wrong. Bringing Palpatine back into the story was a superb idea, with Episode III references to support it: cheating death, creating life, fearing loosing power. Plus, Palpatine's influence/presence gives the two new main characters a reason to feature in a new trilogy.
  14. Come come @Chen G. I saw most of this this coming before the teaser.
  15. Semi? Not a chance that it's a red herring. After the trailer was shown live a SW Celebration, Ian McDiarmid walked out on stage... by himself. I'd say numerous flashbacks are possible. Palpatine's influence, spirit, and/or plan will be fully revealed... and concluded. "All of the musical stuff"? How was I wrong? I hit the nail on the head. Rey will have been 'created' by Palpatine or by the loyal Imperials/scientists/keepers of Palpatine's laboratory on Jakku. She will learn of her origin and possibly turn to the Dark Side... or at the very least have an identity crisis leading to the film's climax. At the beginning of the teaser, Rey is on Jakku staring at the entrance of Palpatine's Contingency laboratory on Jakku. Look in the center of the shot 31 seconds in: an unnatural looking rock formation, which appears to be the opening leading underground. In canon, all who come near it would be killed... by order of Palpatine himself. After all the Palpatine/Jakku references in the canon, I highly doubt Palpatine will presented only as a hologram, without a significant impact on the story. My guess is that Palpatine will have heavily influenced the motivations and identity of Rey and Kylo... his plan all along.
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