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  1. Yes, how silly that John Williams fans would support a reissue of one of the composer's greatest and most popular film scores: a comprehensive presentation that features even greater sound, improved editing, previously unreleased (film version) cues, and a remastered original album presentation. Those of us who don't plan to purchase it - for whatever reason - support it's creation and availability. (At least most of us do.)
  2. Wow, John Williams' Star Wars themes are bursting with 'happy accidents'... certainly not composer intended!
  3. Glad to see so much happiness and excitement in this thread. There certainly is good reason for it! Correct me if I'm wrong, but no JWFans expected John Williams to compose the theme for this Obi-Wan Kenobi TV series... or for the Han Solo film... or for the Star Wars park. A relative few Star Wars fans expected there to be another Star Wars Trilogy, one that started just 10 years after the completion of the previous one, another trilogy of which John Williams composed all three scores. I'd say those who don't expect further Star Wars surprises from John Williams are either hopeless or naïve.
  4. I have good reason to suspect that Williams will deliver more Star Wars music along these lines.
  5. May The 4th (Trilogy) Be With Us All
  6. Disney/Lucasfilm have put a great deal of focus on the Kenobi show. Before its premiere, I seriously doubt they will change that strategy or attempt to alter public perception... because they already have the public right where they want them.
  7. I expect a Star Wars announcement, tease, trailer, or release on May 4th and 25th... but Episode X will not come out on either of those dates.
  8. Premiering the first two episodes during Star Wars Celebration strikes me as very odd. To avoid spoilers, the attendees will either have to watch ~90 minutes of show that morning before arriving at the event... or watch the episodes at the event on their phones. (I suppose it's possible that Disney will somehow present the show at the event.) The original premiere date was announced not that long ago (the second week of February). Why would the date be changed by two days to make watching the show inconvenient for Celebration attendees, many of whom will have travelled from out of town? The timing of the show's premiere will also take the attention away from the content and announcements from Celebration, even for the fans who don't attend. Something doesn't smell right. Could it be an April Fool's joke... or another Ewan McGregor lie*? * The actor admitted to lying for years about not knowing if he would return to play Obi-Wan Kenobi.
  9. Star Wars fans would be better served by reading Timothy Zahn's newest Thrawn novels: volumes that are part of the official canon, unlike the EU 'Legends' books that are not canon... nor did George Lucas consider them part of his Star Wars canon. Avoiding reality will not change it.
  10. It seems you didn't understand anything I said - or insist on denying facts, reality, and logic - because you didn't like or expect what you got out of the prequels and sequels... and because you like the ending to Return of the Jedi and think it should be the ending to Saga... or the ending to a story that only needed one trilogy (the OT) to be complete. This is a very short-sighted and selfish approach... and a mistaken one. The points I raised about the prequels and overall narrative - and the yet unanswered questions - are extremely relevant to the reality of all this. But since this is a John Williams message board, perhaps you should try a bit harder when considering the clues within the music. Once again, I'll present some of them: Kylo Ren's Theme starts with five notes in a row from The Emperor's Theme. Rey's Theme starts with three notes in a row from The Force Theme, features its chordal structure, Dies Irae, and minor thirds (like The Emperor's Theme). Dies Irae can be found within the Star Wars Main Theme, Across The Stars, and other themes and cues throughout the scores. These connections are present, regardless if you initially thought they were intentional and meaningful. Considering the musical genius of John Williams, we must come to the conclusion that he composed these themes (and other cues) with intent, completely aware of what he was doing. Anyone who thinks this is a matter of coincidence doesn't understand the fundamentals of music theory composition and/or doesn't appreciate the rare composing skill of Mr. Williams. These very real musical connections appropriately link to the events, character arcs, and overall plots of this grand story, which included the return of Emperor Palpatine... two episodes after Rey and Kylo's themes were introduced. This is a matter of reality. Truly consider the implications: There was a master plan for the story, of which John Williams was told... and he composed the themes and scores accordingly. As far as the main-line narrative, lore, and themes go, I don't think it matters very much to Lucasfilm what the fans/audience wants. The fans will get what is necessary for the story to be told, many substantive clues, and perhaps some distractions to keep them on their toes or - if they failed to pick up on the clues - on the far side of the galaxy. You're right about Disney's infinite resources. George Lucas even stated that the mega company's resources was one of the main reasons he sold Lucasfilm to them instead of another. So why did the story continue as it did? In his published 2020 Star Wars: Fascinating Facts book, Pablo Hidalgo revealed that the story of the sequel trilogy was based on a treatment that George Lucas left the company in 2012. George Lucas trusted his close associate (of 32 years) Kathleen Kennedy to carry on his story... and for good reason. "Good is a point of view..." In 2015, Lucas said of Star Wars: 'It's a story about families... fathers, sons, grandfathers. It shows how the mistakes of one generation are left for the next generation to deal with.' Not true. The events of the previous films led to the events of the later ones. Appropriate and worthy narrative/thematic reasons exist that explain why things transpire as they do in Star Wars... a reason why the Saga had to continue after Episode VI... and why it will continue beyond IX. The audience just hasn't figured it out yet.
  11. Yes, the prequels were made later, with all three episodes written and directed by George Lucas. The prequels exist in the same universe as the original three episodes, so the questions they introduced are "relevant in terms of the overall story arc of the saga." Period. There's no getting around this fact. In Episode IV, we were told that 'the Jedi were all but extinct'. This means that the Jedi had all died, been killed, and/or had given up. So the obvious question we should have been asking: Why should two failed Jedi have been trusted to teach and train newbie Luke Skywalker about the Force and become a Jedi in their image? (Episode III confirmed that the Jedi utterly failed and were defeated, hence the Revenge of the Sith.) Which of the loose ends I listed are "unnecessary"? Which EU books and comics answer those pertinent questions? Shouldn't the answers be presented in the films to make the Saga complete, without requiring outside material? George Lucas’ Star Wars Saga had an end with RETURN OF THE JEDI - not THE END. (Curiously, Daisy Ridley described THE RISE OF SKYWALKER in this exact manner.) It's not about 'wanting to continue' the Saga or continuing it "forever". It's about answering those questions (and more), answers that are required to define the narrative and themes of Star Wars. Further films can - and surely will - contain necessary answers and complete the narrative, including the decisive defeat of the villain(s). "Worse and worse with every new installment" is your opinion, based on your assessment, based on your point of view. If your general assessment of Star Wars is incorrect - based of the true intent of its creator and subsequent writers - then your opinion is irrelevant... a harsh reality... and a probable one. (This would certainly explain why you don't care for the prequels or sequels.) @JTW, we're not talking about those other franchises. We're talking about STAR WARS. And if you think its makers are "incapable of making the story better", I expect you will be pleasantly surprised. Just watch.
  12. Yes, Return of the Jedi was "a satisfying and happy ending"... but not THE END of the Saga. The prequel episodes - written and directed by the creator - introduced more questions (to the narrative and overall context of the Saga) and very few definitive answers. For instance: - What is the Force? (The Jedi used the supernatural powers it provided them but only knew of its mysterious ways through its "will".) - What is 'the will of the Force'? - How exactly does the Force work? - What does 'bringing the Force back into balance' entail? - How did the Jedi know the Force was out of balance? - What was the Prophesy of the Chosen One? (What was its origin?) - How were the Jedi deceived and beaten so easily? - What is 'the dark side' of the Force? - Can only those with certain states of mind 'use' the dark side powers... and get a red lightsaber? - Can the dark side be used to keep people from dying, as Darth Sidious told Anakin? - Could Sidious have used the dark side to keep himself from dying... at the end of Episode VI? - Was led to the formation of the Jedi and Sith Orders? - What were Palpatine's specific - and ultimate - goals... in the prequel era and beyond? Simply put, too many history/story/lore questions remain for the narrative to have been complete with just six episodes. So the Saga (necessarily) continued... and will continue since few - if any - of these questions have yet been answered.
  13. Exactly what things are just not there? Do you think master composer John Williams did not intend to incorporate multiple relevant themes/motifs into Rey's Theme and other cues and character themes throughout the Saga? Regardless, these musical quotes are present. John Williams would not have done this for no reason. Keep in mind that he composes these score cues and themes for the films, not the other way around. Considering John Williams' skill level, there can only be one reason these themes are so inter-related and accurate to how the story has unfolded: He was told to do so by the higher-ups at Lucasfilm. Why would he have been told to do so? There can only be one reason: There was a plan for the characters and overall story, a plan told to him. Dismissing this line of logic simply because you don't think they're "so smart" makes no sense at all. This very well could be a conspiracy... secrets kept, lies told, deception furthered, but with clues hidden in plain view for the most attentive to assemble... including clues hidden within the music. Wouldn't Star Wars be worthy of such a challenge for a unsuspecting audience? After all, this IP was created, first and foremost, as a teaching tool. So perhaps the "incompetent people" are not those at Lucasfilm, but an audience that assumed a great many things... wrongly. Sometimes there is a different story to tell. This is not to say that the Star Wars Saga won't also have a satisfying and happy ending. I'm sure it will, as George Lucas designed.
  14. They have you right where they want you... because you fell for their trap.
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