Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 4 hours ago, JoeinAR said: I cannot imagine how that is possible. The more I think about it the worse the film becomes. I cannot think of a worse movie Ive seen in 2019. Ooops I Stand corrected. I saw pet Semetary. Makes many bad films look better. I cannot imagine it possibly being that bad. What were you expecting from a monster movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 More than I got. It was worse than godzilla 14 At least in a Japanese godzilla you can make fun of the poor voice overs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, gkgyver said: The only thing I notice in the 2014 finale is the bold heroic Hollywood music for Godzilla retreating to the sea. It's so unfitting for a Godzilla movie it's not even funny. If you could condense all that's wrong with the film into one scene, this is it. But Godzilla is a hero in the movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Godzilla was a hero. I just couldn't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 I just friggin love this movie and how powerful Godzilla is, and how he consolidates his power as a benevolent force of nature by the end of the film. It's essentially how I imagined a Godzilla movie when collecting my Trendmasters dolls and their trading cards in the mid-1990s. Anyone who hates this movie has no heart. Kasey Kockroach and gkgyver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 44 minutes ago, The Original said: But Godzilla is a hero in the movie! But it sounds like he's holding a speech about American bravery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, gkgyver said: But it sounds like he's holding a speech about American bravery. He's essentially the most powerful branch of the US military anyway, called upon to exterminate gargantuan horny pests and defeat invading space monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 He's Rambo! Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 2 hours ago, The Original said: He's essentially the most powerful branch of the US military anyway, called upon to exterminate gargantuan horny pests and defeat invading space monsters. It's just these moments, a choice like that, that make me wonder if the people who made the film got Godzilla in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 4 hours ago, gkgyver said: It's just these moments, a choice like that, that make me wonder if the people who made the film got Godzilla in the first place. They get a certain portrayal of Godzilla. And it was more about how majestic he was in that moment, revealed in the full daylight not as a menace, but a mysterious force of balance. The Legendary version is an amalgamation of the heroics of the late Showa verson and the towering, animalistic aloofness of the Heisei version. If people want a repeat of the dark and disturbing '54 version, they have Shin Godzilla. Legendary Goji is for those of us who loved the Trendmasters toys and mid-90s Godzilla paraphernalia, as well as the 1988 NES game because of the Godzilla/Mothra stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Godzilla fans have no clue what they want. Sometimes I think they, along with Trekkies, think their fandom is much bigger than it actually is. Outside of the original and a few of the Showa films, most of the films are terrible, cheesy and disjointed. KOTM is entertaining and much more polished than the Japanese films but it lacks the buildup and structure of the 2014 film. I do wish Edwards had returned to direct this film. You cannot make a film just for the fans, unless your fandom is big enough to cover a $200 million dollar budget. Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 If it's build-up you want, I loved the moment inside the underwater oil rig where he's inquisitively approaching and he's making a lightshow. That's all the build-up the sequel needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 Giftheck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Giftheck 916 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Actually, that song's grown on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 Hehe Giftheck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 8, 2019 Author Share Posted June 8, 2019 He obviously loved the cute Godzilla/Mothra moments. Those will light up the shipperverse for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 11 hours ago, The Original said: Yeah I got one of those too. Unfortunately the Mrs doesn’t get excited buy it. On 6/7/2019 at 2:45 AM, Gistech said: Actually, that song's grown on me. They should have just brought Blue Oyster Cult back. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, El Jefe said: Yeah I got one of those too. Unfortunately the Mrs doesn’t get excited buy it. She is allowed to enter your hobby room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Yes. You must make compromises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 8, 2019 Author Share Posted June 8, 2019 Aw I thought this was really adorable. Michael Dougherty's been reposting a lot of fanart like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 9, 2019 Author Share Posted June 9, 2019 Hmm this doesn't sound promising... https://deadline.com/2019/06/warner-studio-toby-emmerich-peter-roth-dc-netflix-godzilla-vs-kong-kevin-tsujihara-1202629538/amp/?__twitter_impression=true Quote As far as franchise fatigue with Legendary’s Godzilla: King of the Monsters tanking, Emmerich said that next year’s monster movie Godzilla vs. Kong “will deliver for fans in the way they were looking for” in the latest Godzilla. “It might come out later in the year, so we can deliver an A+ movie” said Emmerich. They're considering pushing back the release date, which suggests they might be retooling the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Yep. Get ready for a Jerry Bruckheimer, Hans Zimmer, Zach Snyder styled crapfest........ 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 9, 2019 Author Share Posted June 9, 2019 With more focus on boring actors so the general audience likes it more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Discussing the nuances of a Godzilla movie plot is like discussing nuances in a Stormy Daniels "film". Get the ass on cam, light it well, there's your satisfying movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 Hey if they want to make Godzilla more realistic and relatable, here's an idea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Film is even better the second time. The only criticism I could give is that the movie throws you in a story where the existence and awakening of the Titans is alraedy a given, without much explanation. And I'd love to know what the governments' plan was to kill the Titans, because the whole movie shows that they in fact can't. But the whole Heisei era is basically the humans trying to kill Godzilla and failing, so ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0llux 398 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Saw it twice also, probably the most fun I've had at the movies this year. There was a a lot of cheese in the dialogue, but it didn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Let's just say they got more things right than wrong in this film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Meltdown Godzilla deserved some Ifukube music, and not that trite trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 At least they were able to slot in Ifukube's "Requiem" in "Rebirth", although far less mournful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 Aww #Mothzilla is like totes a thing now Kasey Kockroach and Giftheck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Giftheck 916 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 16 hours ago, gkgyver said: Meltdown Godzilla deserved some Ifukube music, and not that trite trash. That 'trite trash' contains Ifukube's Godzilla theme in a heroic mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 Does the general public even like Godzilla as the hero? It seems to go against the grain of what they expect of him being a stereotypical generic monster that gets its jollies from destroying cities. Maybe they were confused by this movie presenting him in his heroic Trendmasters persona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Gistech said: That 'trite trash' contains Ifukube's Godzilla theme in a heroic mode. You can barely hear it under the chanting and pounding percussion. gkgyver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Gistech said: That 'trite trash' contains Ifukube's Godzilla theme in a heroic mode. Turned it into an almost unrecognizable MV ostinato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 4 hours ago, The Original said: Does the general public even like Godzilla as the hero? It seems to go against the grain of what they expect of him being a stereotypical generic monster that gets its jollies from destroying cities. Maybe they were confused by this movie presenting him in his heroic Trendmasters persona. The version of Godzilla I have always known is a mutated lizard who is just trying to lay its eggs while the United States military causes massive amounts of destruction trying to kill it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 I guess the idea that Godzilla is a hero who protects cities rather than a villain who destroys them is too much for general audiences to comprehend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I always took him as both, depending on his mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kasey Kockroach said: I always took him as both, depending on his mood. Of course, it all depends on which continuity we're talking about. But that's stuff that normies don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I know the official reasoning is “depends on continuity”, but it’s more fun to imagine that some days he was just pissed Rayman didn’t make it into Smash and took his rage out on Tokyo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 And he's only ever been truly evil in one movie, which was GMK. Even in Shin Godzilla, as horrifyingly garish as he appeared, he was just a zombie-like creature reacting to everything on instinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I’d say the 54, 84 and Shin count. He was destroying everything thing in his path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 55 minutes ago, El Jefe said: I’d say the 54, 84 and Shin count. He was destroying everything thing in his path. Not out of truly evil intent. 54 was lashing out in agony after being mutated by the Castle Bravo bomb. 84 just wanted something to eat when it first came ashore and those nuclear reactors looked tasty, and Shin only struck out in retaliation after it was attacked. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, Gistech said: Not out of truly evil intent. 54 was lashing out in agony after being mutated by the Casttle Bravo bomb. 84 just wanted something to eat when it first ame ashore and those nuclear reactors looked tasty, and Shin only struck out in retaliation after it was attacked. Precisely. He was really just a territorial animal in '54 and '84. A lot of the time in Shin, he just stood there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Godzilla was the outright villain in Godzilla vs Mothra (the first one). Probably the second one, too, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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