indy4 155 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 When is the earliest use of boom-tzzz by JW? I hear some earlier prototypes of it in "Olympic Fanfare" (1984), but these are pretty different than the modern boom-tzzz. First modern variation that I'm aware of is in Far and Away (1994), in "The Land Race." Do any predate either of these works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 When williams tested out chemistry star wars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I think the first boom-tzzzz here was born in 10 Apr 2005.http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showuser=1595 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,128 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 There is quite a bit in the Asteroid Field.http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=zKa7VzA16VgListen at about 1:15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I can't find it with that link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 There is quite a bit in the Asteroid Field.http://m.youtube.com...h?v=zKa7VzA16VgListen at about 1:15.Oh, good spy. These variations certainly aren't as prominent as Williams' modern ones, but they definitely qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 I recently heard this piece written in 2006, which uses boom-tzzz pretty prominently at 2:49 (the composer studied with Goldsmith, so I'm sure he's fairly familiar with Williams' work). It got me thinking, out of curiosity, does anybody know if any composers used boom-tzzz before Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 There is quite a bit in the Asteroid Field.http://m.youtube.com...h?v=zKa7VzA16VgListen at about 1:15.Oh, good spy. These variations certainly aren't as prominent as Williams' modern ones, but they definitely qualify.I would have to say Raiders (Flying Wing/Desert Chase), TOD (Short Round Helps), or Hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I'm not sure what 'boom-tzz' means. Are you talking about a timpani hit followed by a cymbal crash of some sort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 When is the earliest use of boom-tzzz by JW? I hear some earlier prototypes of it in "Olympic Fanfare" (1984), but these are pretty different than the modern boom-tzzz. First modern variation that I'm aware of is in Far and Away (1994), in "The Land Race." Do any predate either of these works?Okay, what's the difference between a modern and an old boom-tzzzzz?Jaws doesn't contain a boom-tzzz, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymenard 54 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Yes it does imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I'm not sure what 'boom-tzz' means. Are you talking about a timpani hit followed by a cymbal crash of some sort?Bass drum followed by piatti (crash cymbal) hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 When is the earliest use of boom-tzzz by JW? I hear some earlier prototypes of it in "Olympic Fanfare" (1984), but these are pretty different than the modern boom-tzzz. First modern variation that I'm aware of is in Far and Away (1994), in "The Land Race." Do any predate either of these works?Okay, what's the difference between a modern and an old boom-tzzzzz?Jaws doesn't contain a boom-tzzz, does it?I think that Man Against Beast contains a boom-tsss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted March 28, 2012 Author Share Posted March 28, 2012 When is the earliest use of boom-tzzz by JW? I hear some earlier prototypes of it in "Olympic Fanfare" (1984), but these are pretty different than the modern boom-tzzz. First modern variation that I'm aware of is in Far and Away (1994), in "The Land Race." Do any predate either of these works?Okay, what's the difference between a modern and an old boom-tzzzzz?Well, to me it seems that as Williams has gotten older, the boom-tzzz has gotten more prominent. In the 70s and 80s it was more of a background noise, but starting in the 90s (and also in some of his Olympic work) he's really brought it to the forefront. I mean, in Tintin we get the boom-tzzzz in the beginning of "Clash of the Cranes" without any other accompaniment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 His earlier boom-tzzzz came from his innermost soul. it was an stylistic signature.These days he's just doin' it for da fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Didn't anyone notice the 9 boom-tzzz's in "More Kelso"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 asteroid field contains a lot os tzz-booms.i love when williams goes wild with them, like in the TLW finale fues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 At 0:26 in "Sail Barge Assault", when Luke jumps off the plank, is a great boom-tzzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurkensalat 340 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Of course, it is all stolen from Beethovens 6th Symphony, 4th movement "Storm", where Beethoven disregards the fact that thunder comes after the flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Oh. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 ummm... Military marches have loads of boom-tzz, i doubt beethoven invented them...maybe its a renmant of Williams army days, he like the power of that sound and used it for his works.Many of his works have a military vibe to them even if they are not marches (Olympic works for example) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurkensalat 340 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I hope, my comment was recognizable as a humorous attempt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 i dont know much beethoven, you could have been serious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 John Williams' very first boom-tzzz happened after the very moment he was born, when the doctor took a first glance at him and instantly saw the genius and saviour of film music history in him, and dropped a glass of water. Boom-tzzz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Hanser's comment isn't that far from the truth though. Beethoven has the bass drum "booms", but the tzzz is played by the violins, not cymbals. Check out this video, especially from 0:45 to 0:55. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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