Jay 46,245 Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 Anyone else here a fan of Ender's Game or any of its sequel books?I read Ender's Game a few years back and was blown away by how good it was! It was already top notch before the climax, and the climax was so PERFECT and unexpected that just amped up my appreciation ever more........ and then, the denouement was equally stunning and perfect. What a great novel!I read the sequel - Speaker For The Dead - shortly after, and while I did like it, it's quite a different novel from Ender's Game, and I haven't been compelled to read its sequels (Xenocide and Children of the Mind) yet. I might instead move on to the shadow series, starting with Ender's Shadow - which I hear is quite good. I am interested in what happened to all those character's from Ender's Game since they don't appear in the original sequels.Since that series he's continued to write prequels and side-quells and spin-offs and all sorts of other stuff I don't know anything about.However, what I am really excited about is that after YEARS of development hell, they are FINALLY making a movie version - it's filming right now! It stars the kid from Hugo as Ender (great choice!), Abigail Breslin (yes, the Little Miss Sunshine chick) as Valentine, Ben Kinglsey as Mazer, and Harrison Freaking Ford as Graff (!!!!!)Apparently the script is a combo of elements from both Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow. Should be interesting. The latest news is that the film just got pushed back from March 2013 to November 13, opening just 3 weeks before the sequel to The Hunger Games. I think this is a brilliant move.Any one else read the books? Anyone else pumped for the film?I wonder who will score the film? Giacchino would be PERFECT!!!!!! The director's last film was X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which was scored by Harry Gregson-Williams.
Brónach 1,330 Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 Oooh, I like your enthusiasm here.I haven't read Ender, but it's great that they start noticing this kind of literature. Literary sci-fi is miles ahead of film sci-fi, and offers a goldmine of ideas for unusual and interesting films. I was psyched when Ridley Scott got David Webb Peoples to write an adaptation of The Forever War, but that seems to have gone nowhere The talk is always Philip K. Dick and Dune, Philip K. Dick and Dune... and Dune is basically a futuristic medieval fantasy.Anyway, I hope this is great or at least good, and that Wolverine was a bad example of what this director can offer.
Jay 46,245 Posted April 11, 2012 Author Posted April 11, 2012 I haven't seen Wolverine or any of this director's other films, but I'm not letting that cloud my judgement. As long as the script is good, I'm sure it'll be fine. Orson Scott Card helped write the script himself so hopefully its a good one.I can't recommend the book higher, its fantastic. Everyone I know who's read it feels the same way.
King Mark 3,975 Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 I got into the Hunger Games thingSo I may read those when the movie comes
Jay 46,245 Posted April 11, 2012 Author Posted April 11, 2012 I got into the Hunger Games thingSo I may read those when the movie comesRead them now!
KK 3,313 Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 I've never read these books (or heard of them for that matter). They don't look quite appealing (judging from the brief plot summary ofc), but I guess I should give it a chance though.The film has a very promising cast however, even though that poster looks terrible...
Jay 46,245 Posted April 11, 2012 Author Posted April 11, 2012 I've never read these books (or heard of them for that matter). They don't look quite appealing (judging from the brief plot summary ofc), but I guess I should give it a chance though.The film has a very promising cast however, even though that poster looks terrible...That's just a fan made hack-job; There is no official poster yet
KK 3,313 Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 I've never read these books (or heard of them for that matter). They don't look quite appealing (judging from the brief plot summary ofc), but I guess I should give it a chance though.The film has a very promising cast however, even though that poster looks terrible...That's just a fan made hack-job; There is no official poster yetI got that, but its still a poorly done one Is it going to be another John Carter?Frankly, the premise has me believing it might take the same route. If that were the case, it definitely wouldn't be the first waste of a great cast. But I guess I should give the books a chance first
KingPin 247 Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 I read the first book and absolutely loved it. Never got around to any of the sequels, but I always hoped they would make it into a film.
Brónach 1,330 Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 Frankly, the premise has me believing it might take the same route.I don't see what the premise of this has to do with John Carter.
KK 3,313 Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 Frankly, the premise has me believing it might take the same route.I don't see what the premise of this has to do with John Carter.Nothing at all really. Its just me being my pessimistic self. I've kind of lost faith in these kind of films....
Brónach 1,330 Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Oh. Well I tend to remain absurdly optimistic I like this kind of stories.
Hlao-roo 390 Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Ender's Shadow, the last really good novel from Card, is an excellent companion piece to Ender's Game. But Speaker for the Dead, which is probably unmarketable in Hollywood, is the gem of the series, and likely the one I would read over and over if I had the time.Xenocide and Children of the Mind aren't quite as memorable but each still worth a read.
Jay 46,245 Posted April 12, 2012 Author Posted April 12, 2012 Ender's Shadow, the last really good novel from Card, is an excellent companion piece to Ender's Game. But Speaker for the Dead, which is probably unmarketable in Hollywood, is the gem of the series, and likely the one I would read over and over if I had the time.Xenocide and Children of the Mind aren't quite as memorable but each still worth a read.Yea, Speaker For The Dead would never work as a (popular hollywood-funded) movie. It was a fascinating read thoughI suspect if the Ender's Game film is successful they will go on to film the Shadow series and ignore the original sequels
Hlao-roo 390 Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 In no particular order, I'd love to hear a score by Trevor Jones, Don Davis, or Arthur B. Rubinstein. But I know I'm "antediluvian" (as Williams would say) in that regard. A Goldsmith score would've been a knockout, of course.Haven't read the Shadow series, but I bet you're right.
Jay 46,245 Posted April 12, 2012 Author Posted April 12, 2012 The question is, will they even film the full denouement of the original book or just end it shortly after the climax
Jay 46,245 Posted December 6, 2012 Author Posted December 6, 2012 The story (of the book anyway) is brilliant, hopefully they pull off the execution of it into film format
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 6, 2012 Posted December 6, 2012 I bought it for my Kindle a little while back, need to read it before the film comes out.
Jay 46,245 Posted December 6, 2012 Author Posted December 6, 2012 I recommend you do. Even the trailers might give away things that are not revealed until the end of the book.
A24 5,156 Posted December 6, 2012 Posted December 6, 2012 you interested in that Alex?Not really, just reporting.
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 you interested in that Alex?Not really, just reporting.good because it's a children's story
A24 5,156 Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 It looks like one. It's sad to see how Ford continues to destroy the cool he once had. Alex - wondering why Jason is having the time of his life.
Brónach 1,330 Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 I haven't read the book but I'm reading fans cmplaining that the kids are way too old.
Jay 46,245 Posted December 7, 2012 Author Posted December 7, 2012 Because its not a children's story. Yes the main characters are children but its about how the adults manipulate them in order to save the planet from destruction.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 Because its not a children's story. Yes the main characters are children but its about how the adults manipulate them in order to save the planet from destruction.I read the first two chapters last night before I passed out. The weird writing structure borderlines Cormac McCarthy. It blends third person and first person together. Why can't writers stick to the basic principles of grammar?
Jay 46,245 Posted December 7, 2012 Author Posted December 7, 2012 Hmmm, I don't recall anything weird about the writing style
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 "Ender leaned his head against the wall of the corridor and cried until the bus came. I am just like Peter. Take my monitor away, and I am just like Peter."
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 Because its not a children's story. Yes the main characters are children but its about how the adults manipulate them in order to save the planet from destruction.it's a children's book Jason, it can be found in the childrens section at Barnes and Noble, it's also found in the teens section and the scifi section.Nothing wrong with it being considered a children's story, that's not a judgement on the book.
Quintus 6,499 Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 Love loads of kids films, when's it out? Anything which even has a slim chance of being a vehicle for Ford is welcome.I'd say the best kids film I've seen in recent years is The Bridge to Terabithia.
Jay 46,245 Posted December 7, 2012 Author Posted December 7, 2012 Yes! The Bridge to Terabithia was great!
A24 5,156 Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 it's a children's book JasonApparently it's not written for children but it's suited for teens (sci-fi usually is). The book won all the major science fiction awards though Hollywood will probably make it with kids in mind.
Jay 46,245 Posted December 7, 2012 Author Posted December 7, 2012 I wouldn't be surprised if its a PG13 movie. It's a violent book
Quintus 6,499 Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 Yeah, inbetween shooting people in the face on Call of Duty.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Hmm, it'll be decent I suppose, nothing extraordinary. I would've liked an inspired Howard or Powell for this one.
Jay 46,245 Posted January 30, 2013 Author Posted January 30, 2013 How do you know Horner won't be inspired? Maybe it will be like a Memoirs of a Geisha situation, maybe Horner's a big fan of the bookHorner does space action really well
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Because nothing Horner has done in the past decade has been great. To me he's a composer I know will deliver a serviceable score but nothing strong.
KK 3,313 Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 The Legend of Zorro, The Missing, The Four Feathers and A Beautiful Mind are all great scores imo.
Jay 46,245 Posted January 30, 2013 Author Posted January 30, 2013 Clearly Koray hasn't listened to Black Gold.I think Amazing Spiderman proves Horner still has the chops to produce a quality blockbuster action score.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 I have yet to listen to Black Gold. I like The Amazing Spider-Man, it's enjoyable, but I wouldn't call it great.
KK 3,313 Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 It is, but there have been greater in the past decade too. Ex. The Legend of Zorro
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