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SubZero: Williams, Silvestri, James Newton Howard, Elfman, Goldsmith Cool: David Arnold, Joel McNeely, Herrmann, Zimmer, Bruce Broughton, Delerue, Poledouris, Goldenthal, Alan Menken, Marc Shaiman, Michael Kamen, Thomas Newman, Harry Gregson-Williams, John Powell, Chris Beck, Ed Shearmur, Trevor Jones, John Debney, Morricone Uncool: Horner, Howard Shore, Klaus Badelt, Christopher Young, Clint Mansell, Patrick Doyle, Phillip Glass, John Ottman, John Frizzel, Michael Giacchino, Brad Fiedel, Michael Nyman Seriously uncool: Gustavo Santaolala, Graeme Revell, Carter Burwell, Trevor Rabin, Jeff Rona, Rolfe Kent, Nick Glennie-Smith, Bryan Tyler.

Folks, let's get this word right, shall we? embaRRaSSed (two R's and two S') I find guilty pleasure in ES posthumus - unearthed

Bah! If there's anything Stanley Kubrick is known for it's his exceptionally poor taste in music, evident throughout his movie output.

Heh heh, well I certainly went overboard here Of course I have no business telling people what in my opinion is good and bad. I find it extremely curious that people truly are enjoying the Spartacus overture, though. Perhaps even fascinating.. I certainly would have fired him on the spot if that was my movie.

There was an overture on the DVD. I'll never forget the torment... I simply couldn't believe my ears when I heard it. It's among the absolute worst pieces of orchestral music I've heard from that musical era. Oh well, some people will buy anything. (Btw, I didn't mean to offend anyone really.. just take my comments with a grain of salt (if you're not already doing so . Church organs of today are dynamic to a large extent. No, I do not regard percussion/rhythm alone as music, and no, atonality is not something I listen to with great pleasure (although these are all subjective opinions, they happen to reflect those of the majority).

I think that X3 (and parts of Sky Captain) would perfectly fit that description. Karol I'm inclined to agree somewhat on the account of X3, but Sky Captain is far from it. There's intelligent thematic and motivic development with a musical aim and distinct direction, whereas Spartacus feels like someone set the orchestra on fire and everyone's running frantically around hoping to put it out somehow. By the time the overture (finally) ends you're so sick and tired of the random noise you're just gonna want to switch off the TV and go read a book.

Robthehand, there's absolutely NOTHING brilliant about the OVERTURE (yes it has one) in Spartacus. You'd have to be completely tone deaf to enjoy something like that. It's completely devoid of all the basic necessities in enjoyable music (form, structure, melody, sensible harmonic progression, dynamics etc.), and as an overture it fails completely by definition. It's just a meaningless and relentless sonic tirade of junk. There's simply no argument against this. It's an incontrovertible fact, as is your case of tone deafness How anyone can sit through that overture is beyond me.

If someone here mentions Spartacus (Alex North) then all hope is lost. A bigger barrage of noise and structural mess is hard to come by. Come to think of it that's a pretty accurate general description of Alex North's music. Current favorite of mine: http://www.immediatemusic.com/musicsource/...fm?FNAME=012_45

I think Zimmer is an extremely likeable guy who happens to write pretty good music too, whereas Horner is just an asshole. Between the two of them I much prefer Zimmer's output.

Dennis Sands is the best mixing engineer working in L.A today, imo. His work for Silvestri packs more punch than anything else out there. His brass always sounds fantastic. Shawn Murphy did great work on "Signs", though.

(regarding previous post: Uhm, that really doesn't sound like a youth orchestra (although the sound quality is a bit too poor to really be sure). The trumpet section is remarkably good, even by world class standards. The horns are doing a great job too. Some of the syncopation work is weird, though. Overall a pretty professional performance I'd say. If that's a youth orchestra I'm floored

Imhotep - The Mummy

pi, I heard $2M . . what's your source?

John Adams

Hans Zimmer?! Come on, he's a brilliant film composer. He has a gift for melodies that the vast majority can enjoy. The film industry is at its core all about giving the VAST MAJORITY of people a 2 hour brainless reality escape. For that purpose Zimmer is perhaps one of the best in the industry. His popularity is undeniable, and it's not like he's a hot 18 year old blonde, meaning his popularity obviously stems from his actual talent for music. Granted, his music is certainly not art on the intellectual level of the great orchestral composers such as Williams, Goldsmith & Herrmann etc. but for what it is, and what it tries to be, I think you guys ought to cut him some slack. History shows that it's the composers with the greatest ability to conjure fantastic melodies who are remembered and held in high regard. Williams isn't famous for his intricate action writing, his sophisticated musical language or his genius orchestration sensibilities. He's simply known for creating a bunch of memorable themes. Looking back on Zimmer's output you simply cannot deny his consistent output of superb melodies. How does this make him overrated in any way?

I maintain my opinion.. John Powell can do A LOT better. Try the chase cues from "Paycheck" - now THAT'S impressive writing.

Michael Kamen still wears the crown and holds the throne in this trilogy imo. Ottman couldn't write if his life depended on it imo. Powell has done a LOT better than this.

Hey the music for the trailer is pretty nice, was it composed specifically for the trailer or is it from somewhere else?

Tnx man!

Did anyone record the interview? I can't find my way through the maze that is BBCs websites (What a mess that one is!) Thanks.

Wait a sec, is Top Gear back on? I noticed Fifth Gear was back the other day but I didn't think Top Gear was.. anyone care to shed some light on this? Thanks

Haha, idiots! Gods don't die.

Hey guys, I was listening to Far & Away Volume 2 and the last track is "rehearsing end credits" - a really interesting track, but of course they're cutting the interesting parts (when Williams stops the orchestra and starts correcting the issues he heard) !! My question is.. where can we find footage or audio of actual recording sessions so we can see/hear what is being corrected? Essentially observe the master in action. Of course we all know the Troy incident when a login @ ToddAO was leaked during the recording sessions. I doubt we'll see that happen again... So where can we find these things? Bootlegs and printed scores of film music are hard enough to obtain. I imagine what I'm asking for would be close to impossible, but there's gotta be something out there! What say you? I'd pay a LOT to watch the entire recording session of any given Williams film

The russian/soviet anthem is easily the best one.

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