leeallen01

Exactly my point. He was involved in the stories for all 3 OT films.

If you want me to believe that Lucas just made the first film and then wasn't involved in Empire or Jedi, and other people just made them both, then it's simply not true.

But he was still there overseeing it all. You can watch both his trilogies separately thinking "okay that was one story that made sense." But with the sequel trilogy, it is obviously invented day by day by people who have no idea where they're going, and thus end up seriously contradicting themselves.

I was referring to the fact that Lucas was behind it all. Overseeing the vision. Of course he didn't plan it all out, but he did end up making two trilogies that had stories that made sense over 3 films. They didn't seem utterly separate and lacking any coherence.

True, ANH was a singular story. And Empire and Jedi were kind of Part 1 and 2 of a singular story. But most importantly it was one man's overall vision, with a clear story that carries over, and has great attention to character. Even the prequels were one man's vision with a clear story of Anakins fall. The sequel trilogy has no single persons vision, no consistent characters and no story that could possibly coherently carry over 3 films.

Of course. I'm not arguing against that. But considering it does exist, I am arguing against their decision making and overall poor product.

What I said is essentially the same - "Palpatine is simply a lazy attempt to salvage this dreadfully fragmented trilogy." I say it's a lazy attempt to salvage the trilogy (which is impossible) You say it's an attempt to justify the trilogy. Salvage and justify have the same suggestive meaning for my overall point.

True. Palpatine is simply a lazy attempt to salvage this dreadfully fragmented trilogy. Bringing back Palpatine is a spit in the face of the Original Trilogy. What an irresponsible choice that is to crush the impact of ROTJ into nothing.

Seriously? The entire Disney Star Wars era has been just one big "member Star Wars? I member! Member Han Solo? I member!" Etc etc. Let's not kid ourselves. Kathleen Kennedy and the 'story group' immediately decided to bring every single OT thing back so the fans would be fooled by nostalgia and give them money. No one with a shred of intelligence believes Lando or the Emperor are being brought back for 'story' reasons, and not simply because of a lack of ideas and a reliance on nostalgia dollars.

Just wondering, does anyone actually believe this story was planned? Surely you don't think this trilogy had a purpose or a structure of storytelling... TFA was a remake of ANH to give people a reintroduction into Star Wars again and to create a basic foundation to build on. TLJ was one man's literal first draft ignoring all of TFA and inventing all new story ideas. TROS is a desperate course correction of bringing back every dead and forgotten OT character in order to make people forget how poorly written and uninteresting this Disney Star Wars era is, by simply giving us another round of "look, it's Palpatine! Look, it's Lando!" "Like this film please! Now eat this corporate slop and give us billions of dollars, you weirdos."

The track called - 'The Assasination of Kylo Ren by the Coward Rey Skywalker,' has a little bit of Rian Johnson's theme in it!

I've been away writing this score you ungrateful fool.

It's such a shame that this stratospheric level of Williams is wasted on the awful film we will inevitably receive. He deserves better.

I feel really privileged because I had the honour of hearing this score before anyone else...in 1994.

Not sure. There was no program.