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The 'Director Cut' from the DVD (the only version available on DVD) uses the album version. Bummer.

I'd be satisfied for one year if Disney licenses out another Indy film for an LTP concert.

The Atlanta Symphony Orchestra was going to it in June 2020, but was cancelled because of COVID.

Well, you could have done some research on the orchestra before you spent all that money a ticket, transportation, and lounging.

@Marian Schedenig: I meant that the portion of the general public that has been going to these LTP concerts--with the sound and the projected image--who would leave during end credits would not be the audience for a concert where every music-cue from a film score would be played on stage without the film or its sound.

Yeah, the general public that would leave during the end credits, which is where one of the best listening music-cues comes from in a film score, would not be the best audience for this. However, if film-music nerds like us were notified that such an event were to take place, we’d fill-up a 2743-seat concert hall. These venues/orchestras have to know where to announce them. Certainly not in the usual Classical music places.

I am speaking of a LTP concert (also known as the 'film-with-live-orchestra' concerts) where every music-cue from that concert is performed on stage by an orchestra without the film and its audio track. If any orchestra would be crazy enough to do it, would you buy a ticket for it? We all have enjoyed listening to our favorite film scores over the years on record, CD, digital file, etc. Eventhough we now have these LTP concerts with these film scores played live at a concert hall, the film’s sound is layered over it. To add insult to injury, the orchestra’s playing is mic’d up and sent out to the speakers with the film’s audio, so, it takes away the joy of listening to the orchestral music with the hall’s acoustics. For me, the excitement of hearing a specific film score at a concert hall, that I’ve heard many times on a CD, is to see how music like this can sound in the concert hall environment. I know @Thor doesn’t care for the LTP concerts as they are now. It seems that the only way one can hear, even a portion, of a film score from the LTP concert without the film’s audio would be at a rehearsal, as evidenced in these rehearsal videos. Star Wars: A New Hope https://www.facebook.com/QCSymphony/posts/10157051840560170 The Great Escape https://www.facebook.com/bbcconcertorchestra/videos/2459519684290760 Star Trek Beyond https://www.instagram.com/p/BIDVtsrgGuv/?hl=en Unfortunately, I have yet to see any notices of open rehearsals for these concerts.

The last post on this thread was 2011. Scores Performed Live to Film - General Discussion - JOHN WILLIAMS Fan Network (jwfan.com) Many films mentioned in that thread got the LTP-concert treatment. Shows how far we've gone.

Cancelled. https://philharmoniedeparis.fr/en/agenda Both March 3rd and 4th shows. I checked the orchestra's website last week and it said that the Wednesday show was sold-out, but the Thursday show had seats available. Why couldn't the orchestra cancel a month ago instead of one week before the show.

That seems to be the operative word to describe Lucasfilm. This 'laziness' goes back to the 2-CD release of SW:TPM-They just take music from a final film-stem and putting it on a CD.

KKL Luzern, Switzerland Citi Light Symphony Orchestra, Anthony Gabriele, conductor New Date: June 4th, 2021 «Superman» – in Concert | City Light Concerts

New Date: Royal Albert Hall - Friday, September 23, 2022 Saturday, September 24, 2022 Sunday, September 25, 2022 https://www.royalalberthall.com/tickets/events/2022/star-wars-return-of-the-jedi-in-concert/

Cancelled. New date: Royal Albert Hall - Friday, July 16, 2021 https://www.royalalberthall.com/tickets/events/2021/superman-in-concert/

Due out in March 2021: https://www.facebook.com/CityLightConcerts/posts/1029199370903587

Or it could be these other reasons: The settings of the device used to scan the 35mm release prints. The optical effects compositing of the film for it's time. The merging of filmed elements into one film was done photo chemically. Each filmed element had to be copied-or duplicated (duped) onto new film. When you are duping a film, the copy will lose quality from the original. All filmed elements in that shot were copies. The quality of these release prints is several generations away from the original camera negative. LucasFilm had all the filmed elements stored and had them transferred and re-composited digitally for their current home video releases, hence the quality of the 4K/Blu Ray versions. Some of us old-timers like the ‘grindhouse’ quality of our favorite films because seeing all those nuisances from the print (flashes of dirt-marks, etc.) ignites those memories of happy times at the cinema.

I found another video from that LTP concert at the RAH https://www.instagram.com/p/BKsIc8aArGj/ This came from this blog: Stuff that occurs to me: Independence Day Live at the Royal Albert Hall was incredible (brodiesnotes.blogspot.com) I have a question for those who attended the ID4-Live concert at the RAH or in Dublin. @Omen II @leeallen01 As heard in the film’s sound-mix during the final battle with the invaders, portions of the music-cue ‘Hide’ (Disc 2, Track 3, LLL-CD) were re-used during the footage where people from the mobile-homes at the Area 54 base evacuating when the alien scout-ships were arriving. Do any of you recall if that portion of the music was repeated at the concert, or, was there new music over that said footage?

You might have to settle on going to a LTP (Live-to-Projection) concert -a type of concert where there's a screening of a film and the music is performed by an orchestra on stage accompanying the movie. The Royal Albert Hall has scheduled it for Christmas 2021. 'The Muppet Christmas Carol' in Concert | Royal Albert Hall — Royal Albert Hall In the USA, these orchestras were scheduled to do this concert this Christmas: San Diego Symphony for December 18, 2020 Colorado Symphony for November 27, 2020 Of course, those are cancelled. Check with these USA orchestras again sometime time in 2021. They may reschedule.

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Disney green-lights another 'Home Alone' movie but they won't green-light a 'Home Alone 2' LTP concert. There are orchestras in the USA and Canada that have presented the 'Home Alone' LTP concert every year during the Thanksgiving/Christmas season. Detroit Symphony Orchestra since 2016 Nashville Symphony Orchestra since 2017 Toronto Symphony Orchestra since 2017

How about this wording: “The original 1983 soundtrack-album presentation” or "The original 1983 soundtrack album" I've seen Mike M. used either wording in his booklet notes, often.

In the remaining half of the end credits for ‘Superman’, the ‘Love theme from Superman’ cue was used with some micro-edits. Mike M. said in the FSM forum that this cue won’t be played at the LTP concert. https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=124036&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=11&r=227#bottom So, what are they going to do after the Superman march finishes… let the credits continue to roll upward without music until it finishes? The production company handling this concert, Film Concerts Live, did this in the early performances of the ‘Jurassic Park’ LTP concert where a shorter piece of music for the end credits sequence was used. However, in later performances, the speed of the credits, rolling upward, was slightly faster so that it would end just as the new music ends. This was also done with the LTP concert of ‘SW:TFA’. The only other time that I've seen FCL have the ending portion of a movie's end credits go without music was in the 2018 world premiere of their production, 'Jurassic World-In Concert.' However, in that instance, composer Michael Giacchino and director Colin Treverrow came on stage and did some talking while the musicians disassembled. With that one cue gone from the ‘Superman’ LTP concert, the duration of the end credits roll-up would have to be half the speed of the film version to fit the length of, even, the original end credits arrangement of the Superman march (the one that ended up being used in the film’s opening credits). One option would be to speed-up the name rolling. My concern is that by doing it that way, the names would whiz by so fast that the audience would not be able to read them. I’ve seen this done on movies being broadcast on TV. This practice would look silly on a large theatre screen. To experiment with this idea, I made a video where I did the following: Made a music track using the opening portion of the main title march, an ample portion of the end title march, and the ending portion of the main title march with the ‘swell and the crash’, in that order. Basically, I used the album track, ‘Theme from Superman’ for my music track. (For a better understanding of the recorded versions of the march and how they are used in the finished film, go to pages 58-59 of the blue-bounded book from FSM’s ‘Superman – The Music’ CD set. You still have it, right?) A portion of the film’s closing-credits that is sped-up to finish at the end of the music. As I was watching my video on my 42-inch screen TV, I think that FCL might pull this off, short of making a slightly longer duration of the end-credits sequence and have JW write new music for it. What do you think?

Postponed! No date announced. «Superman» – in Concert (kkl-luzern.ch)

@Gurkensalat How about 'Superman'?

In the USA and Canada, only two orchestras where scheduled to do this concert: San Diego Symphony for December 18, 2020 Colorado Symphony for November 27, 2020 Of course, those are cancelled.

I was at a SW:TESB – LTP concert in New Jersey last year and this flute player came in with his part five measures earlier than when he was supposed to. The flute player’s part was supposed to come in during a montage of Hoth battle shots (cannons exploding, snow walkers advancing, snow speeders whizzing by, etc.). Instead, the player came in during the scene just before the montage where R2 is being loaded onto an X-wing as C-3PO says ‘look after master Luke…”. In other words: The flute part, in question, is at the 33-second mark, the flute player at that concert came in with that part at the 25-second mark. I thought that flub was cool—a little bit of unpredictability on my favorite score from an orchestra. That is another reason why I like hearing live performances of these classic film scores.