sulky 6 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I recently spied on one of them supposed A.I. 2 CD promos on eBay and wanted to know how can one identify the article as being a boot or the real deal...The item in question has matrix numbers, indicating that the CDs were pressed. However, weren't the 2 CD promos originally sent out late '01 / early '02 CD-Rs and not manufactured CDs?There was another auction, yet that item appeared to be an alternate version with different labelling (additional text).Soundtrackcollector lists two different 2 CD promo sets; how many variations of these promos are there? Which ones are genuine and which aren't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 The "For Your Consideration" single and 2-CD sets are real so this is probably a real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 it's expensive...K.M.Who can live with his cdr's of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 it's expensive...K.M.Who can live with his cdr's of itIndeed. Still, pressed discs are always nice. I wonder how much it'll go for in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 well,e-bay still seems complicated to me.If I saw a authentic set for 60$ in a store I would probably buy it.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Trilogy 39 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I recently spied on one of them supposed A.I. 2 CD promos on eBay and wanted to know how can one identify the article as being a boot or the real deal...I have got the original pressed 2CD set. This set is a real pressing. There was another auction, yet that item appeared to be an alternate version with different labelling (additional text).This set from the ebayer "imperialmaster" is a silver CD-R fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulky 6 Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 If previous auctions of the 2 CD sets are any indication, it's guaranteed the winner will have to pony up a good deal, likely in the low to mid 3 figures.The "For Your Consideration" single and 2-CD sets are real so this is probably a real deal.As I'm sure there are authentic articles out there, there's probably a good deal more of the home made (or even pressed) illigitimate kind that look convincingly genuine - such are the perils of online commerce (eBay in particular). Though it would be nice to know with absolute certainty that these are truly the real deal. I guess I'll just stick to looking for them rare, commercially released titles - much easier to ascertain whether they're real or fake.I have got the original pressed 2CD set. This set is a real pressing.Am curious, do the matrix codes on your set match the one currently in auction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 well,e-bay still seems complicated to me.If I saw a authentic set for 60$ in a store I would probably buy it.K.M.If I saw an authentic set in a store I'd probably faint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulky 6 Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 Well, the winning bid for this was $444 smackeroos!!! $444=44,000 pennies. Don't know if I should be envious of the winner or feel sorry for him (as one can buy a helluva lot with that kind of change). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 wow,I wonder if it was a rich JWfanK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Trilogy 39 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Am curious, do the matrix codes on your set match the one currently in auction?Yes, it does.Compare with my set, the matrix code is the same and the covers + CD's on the auction are identical.I have paid for my original pressed oscar promo $400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Wow. The most I've ever paid for a CD was $160 for Spacecamp, and I thought THAT was a lot. I had just had an unhappy break-up and needed to make a silly purchase to cheer myself up. It worked. I LOVE that score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 160 dollarcent would have been overpaying for that piece of mediocraty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Toshiba laptop: $2000Internet connection: $15 per monthWinning Spacecamp on E-bay: $160Shipping, handling and Insurance: $5The look of happiness on my face as I listen to my Spacecamp CD... Priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrygollay 0 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 The CDs on this pictures aren't original "for your consideration", last September I have been accomodate in L.A. by someone who is in the Academy, he have a lots of "FYC" CDs and some belongs to WarnerBros. in the case of A.I. it should be on each CD the WB logo and "for your consideration"as well as composer John Williams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulky 6 Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 ^^ Could it be possible that the set you saw was simply another promo variation w/ alternate label and text? There are many pics out there of WB promos distributed like the Harry Potter FYC and the A.I. single disc, and they have similar labeling, text and font without the studio logo (of course, they can also be bootlegged replicas). That's why it's important to check the matrix # for CDs of dubious origin - it's the only way to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 wow,I wonder if it was a rich JWfanK.M.Imagine the possibilities if such a thing existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Trilogy 39 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 The CDs on this pictures aren't original "for your consideration", last September I have been accomodate in L.A. by someone who is in the Academy, he have a lots of "FYC" CDs and some belongs to WarnerBros. in the case of A.I. it should be on each CD the WB logo and "for your consideration"as well as composer John Williams...In the case of the 2004 and 2005 academy promos, you are right. But the 2001, they have got neither the WB logo nor the FYC on CD as same as the 2002 releases. In this case you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,064 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Toshiba laptop: $2000Internet connection: $15 per monthWinning Spacecamp on E-bay: $160Shipping, handling and Insurance: $5The look of happiness on my face as I listen to my Spacecamp CD... Priceless.I have no problem paying a large amount for a CD because I know if I payed that much it must be something I really want and it will get plenty of playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 First thing I did was burn a copy for playing. I'm more than happy owning the original, but it's the CD-R that I stick in the CD player. I'd hate to scratch my original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Im laughing at the intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,064 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 You forgot "Superior"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 no, I purposely left that word out Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.ZacharySmith 0 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 As to the original thread question...if in doubt contact WB direct...someone will be able to tell you if the CDs are legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 So did this guy pay 444$ for a fake set?K.m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 As to the original thread question...if in doubt contact WB direct...someone will be able to tell you if the CDs are legit.Of course WB has no interest in promoting the sale of either bootlegs or promo material that is not supposed to be sold anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,276 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 I wonder why A.I was the only Academy promo thus far that actually had unreleased music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Wrong it appears the Hook Concorde boot may also have used an Oscar promo as it's source, or one of it's sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 why is the sound quality so shit then?K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 That's what I'm wondering to.If the Concorde release for Hook was ripped from the Academy Promo then sound quality should be excellent. It seems like whoever ripped it must have ripped it at a very low bit rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Could have been a casette tape instead of a CD promo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,276 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 I wouldn't mind if we had boots of several other scores with the same sound quality as the Concorde boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 yeah,there was 2 Hook boots,the first one had hiss,and the concorde has a lot of hiss reduction applied to the music deterorating the music further.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 It sounds ok initially, but the more you hear it it sounds like they just went to far trying to remove the tape hiss.The BOT4OJ boot has the same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 I'd rather have the tape hiss and keep the sound quality good, then remove to much hiss and add a lot of uncessary artifacts.I wonder, jerrygollay does your contact in the Academy that has a lot of "FYC" may have the Hook Academy Promo score? Would you mind finding out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 yeah,I didn't notice it untill I got better headphones and soundcard.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 The Hook boot still sounds a damn sight better than, say, the Last Crusade boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Yeah ,it does.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 What was the source for that one (LC) anyway, does anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 I think someone snuck in at night into the studio and recorded the master tapes on somekind of cheap cassette recorder.I don't really know....K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,064 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 I wonder why A.I was the only Academy promo thus far that actually had unreleased music.A screw up which is why a single disc followed it.And it's not the first Academy Promo to have unreleased music. Apollo 13 and Mulan have unreleased music on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulky 6 Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 Compare with my set, the matrix code is the same and the covers + CD's on the auction are identical.Thanks for that... Nice to know you're one of the very very very few to own that particular set. Seeing as it is indeed legit, I now know what to be on the lookout for...As for the other "official" 2 CD promo pressing, the seemingly less rare 1090M11-101/001, hopefully light will also be shed on that sonofagun sometime soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,805 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Ai promo unreleased music: Williams wanted it to win (being better reviewed with the whole thing) over HP and PS?It could be a screw up as mentioned, as Academy promos are suposed not to contain unused music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,064 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I think it was stated that when they put the CDs together to send out someone put the entire score on there by mistake instead of just doing a single disc.It was corrected and the single disc was sent out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Trilogy 39 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 As far as I know, the first academy promo was the 2CD set. But there was a problem: The 1st CD of that 2CD has got a technical fault. The tracks were leaked. Some DVD-players have got problems to read the CD. My DVD-player has got the same problem. Sometimes the player can read the CD, sometimes not. But don't worry : All CD-players have got no problems to read the CD, only the DVD-players.My theory:Most academy members have got DVD-players and they have got problems to play the first CD. So they have contacted WB and have informed that disaster. Then WB stoped producing the 2CD and they began producing the single disc to save money and time. That's the reason, why the 2CD is extremely limited! What do you think about my explanation? :roll: Sorry, for my bad english. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 How about this as an explaination.Oh man ,they'll sell these on e-bay for big bucks and make bootlegs,stop makin them now.And whoever released it is fired.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,267 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I was under the impression that the original 2-cd promo was sent only to the music branch members. After it got nominated, the one cd promo was sent to all academy members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,805 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 good point.Why send 2cd to academy members when half of them will just look the movie title... :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 yeah,like everyone listens to those c.d.'s....K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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