Wojo 2,453 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Titanic is a movie where, when you first see Rose, you make a wish. And it comes true. Twice! Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I want to get Cabaret on blu, it didn't win best picture, losing to the Godfather, but it won 8 to Godfather's 3. It's a musical in the same vein as 82' Victor Victoria(when the hell is this awesome film coming to blu), where songs are stage acts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Musicals aren't really a genre that is taken seriously anymore, and that's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Why it's a good thing?I LOVE musicals!The old ones anyway..Fred Astaire, Ginger Rodgers, Gene kelly, Judy Garland...They certainly can make me feel better when I'm down..Looking forward to puchasing "Hello Dolly" and "A Funny Girl".and i surely hope they soon release this collection , that was cancelled as it seems:(I have seen only The Sound of Music and Oklahoma from these, and I'm not watching the rest, because I'm waiting to watch them on Blu-ray for the first time!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Musicals aren't really a genre that is taken seriously anymore, and that's a good thing.have you actually seen Cabaret or Victor Victoria? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I think I saw Victor/Victoria in my teens, not sure about Caberet. Not a Liza fan anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Musicals aren't really a genre that is taken seriously anymore, and that's a good thing.have you actually seen Cabaret or Victor Victoria?I still haven't seen Cabaret because it seems too dark from scenes I've seen and I prefer colorful musicals.But of course I'll see it sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I think I saw Victor/Victoria in my teens, not sure about Caberet. Not a Liza fan anyway.you might be if you saw Cabaret.Victor Victoria is one of my all time favorite films, it's sharp, funny, and sophisticated. I've not seen Cabaret in years but it's a marvelous and somewhat disturbing film.Joel Grey is so fantastic as a most mysterious master of ceremonies, who is he, or WHAT is he? Death, Satan?Neither film tells the tale through song. The musical aspects come from scenes on stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Well, those aren't musical then.Musicals are movies where people suddenly break into song for no reason, and it destroys the realism of the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Well, those aren't musical then.Musicals are movies where people suddenly break into song for no reason, and it destroys the realism of the moment.no that is incorrect, there are many musicals just as I described. Musicals come in several forms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I think the line blurs between musicals and modern popular operas. Something like The Phantom of the Opera is all singing, yet it's considered a musical more than an opera. Most Disney animated films and Muppet movies frequently break into song, but are they musicals? If everyone sings and nobody seems put off by it, I would say the realism isn't broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 cabaret is listed as a Musical and Drama, while Victor Victoria is listed as a comedy and musical.but they are not musicals like Phantom or Les Miz, where most dialogue is in song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Well, those aren't musical then.Musicals are movies where people suddenly break into song for no reason, and it destroys the realism of the moment.You need realism? Stick to Ken Loach movies! Musicals have their own laws, build their own universe. indy4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 The only two GREAT musicals are Singing In The rain and The Muppets Take Manhattan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 and South Pacific, and Top Hat, and Oklahoma, and Brigadoon, and All That Jazz, and so many more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 this is AFI's Greatest musicals list.I have seen those in bold!1 SINGIN' IN THE RAIN 1952 MGM2 WEST SIDE STORY 1961 United Artists3 WIZARD OF OZ, THE 1939 MGM4 SOUND OF MUSIC, THE 1965 Twentieth Century-Fox5 CABARET 1972 Allied Artists6 MARY POPPINS 1964 Disney7 STAR IS BORN, A 1954 Warner Bros.8 MY FAIR LADY 1964 Warner Bros.9 AMERICAN IN PARIS, AN 1951 MGM10 MEET ME IN ST. LOUIS 1944 MGM11 KING AND I, THE 1956 Twentieth Century-Fox12 CHICAGO 2002 Miramax13 42ND STREET 1933 Warner Bros.14 ALL THAT JAZZ 1979 Twentieth Century-Fox15 TOP HAT 1935 RKO16 FUNNY GIRL 1968 Columbia17 BAND WAGON, THE 1953 MGM18 YANKEE DOODLE DANDY 1942 Warner Bros.19 ON THE TOWN 1949 MGM20 GREASE 1978 Paramount21 SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS 1954 MGM22 BEAUTY AND THE BEAST 1991 Disney23 GUYS AND DOLLS 1955 MGM24 SHOW BOAT 1936 Universal25 MOULIN ROUGE!(I'm so happy that they included Beauty and the Beast, my 2nd favourite film of all time!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Would definitely recommend Bob Fosse's CABARET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 South Park is a brilliant musical. Team America as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I like both as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 That's different. Those are cartoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Didn't like Team America... till I saw it a second time. Friggin' hilarious movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Was it wrong that I got a bit aroused at a certain point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 South Park is a brilliant musical.I don't understand what is brilliant about it.That it uses swearing to make a success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 this is AFI's Greatest musicals list.I have seen those in bold!1 SINGIN' IN THE RAIN 1952 MGM2 WEST SIDE STORY 1961 United Artists3 WIZARD OF OZ, THE 1939 MGM4 SOUND OF MUSIC, THE 1965 Twentieth Century-Fox5 CABARET 1972 Allied Artists6 MARY POPPINS 1964 Disney7 STAR IS BORN, A 1954 Warner Bros.8 MY FAIR LADY 1964 Warner Bros.9 AMERICAN IN PARIS, AN 1951 MGM10 MEET ME IN ST. LOUIS 1944 MGM11 KING AND I, THE 1956 Twentieth Century-Fox12 CHICAGO 2002 Miramax13 42ND STREET 1933 Warner Bros.14 ALL THAT JAZZ 1979 Twentieth Century-Fox15 TOP HAT 1935 RKO16 FUNNY GIRL 1968 Columbia17 BAND WAGON, THE 1953 MGM18 YANKEE DOODLE DANDY 1942 Warner Bros.19 ON THE TOWN 1949 MGM20 GREASE 1978 Paramount21 SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS 1954 MGM22 BEAUTY AND THE BEAST 1991 Disney23 GUYS AND DOLLS 1955 MGM24 SHOW BOAT 1936 Universal25 MOULIN ROUGE!(I'm so happy that they included Beauty and the Beast, my 2nd favourite film of all time!) I'm glad to see On the Town on that list. Not nearly as good as Leonard Bernstein's original score for the Broadway version, but still a fun one. I'd buy a CD release of the movie version in a second.I'd rank several of Menken's efforts above Beauty. Like Pocahontas and Hunchback of Notre Dame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Unfortunately, yes. I thought Edge Of Darkness was great and The Beaver looked goodThe Beaver looked good??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I'd rank several of Menken's efforts above Beauty. Like Pocahontas and Hunchback of Notre Dame.well, I'm sure that those musicals aren't ranked in that way ONLY for the quality of their score and/or songs!But as complete films.In that regard, I think Beauty and the beast is a much much better film than Pocahontas or Hunchback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I'd rank several of Menken's efforts above Beauty. Like Pocahontas and Hunchback of Notre Dame.well, I'm sure that those musicals aren't ranked in that way ONLY for the quality of their score and/or songs!But as complete films.In that regard, I think Beauty and the beast is a much much better film than Pocahontas or Hunchback.True, the score's not all that matters. I haven't seen any of those three in a long time, but I do remember Pocahontas and Hunchback being something refreshingly different and progressive for Disney. Beauty and the Beast seems to reinforce a lot of Disney's less admirable thematic ideas...for example: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 South Park is a brilliant musical.I don't understand what is brilliant about it.That it uses swearing to make a success?No, because it's an extremely well-written film. Even Oscar nominated.Unfortunately, yes. I thought Edge Of Darkness was great and The Beaver looked goodThe Beaver looked good???I thought so. Seemed like it had potential, and I like Zarvos' score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 It had Mel Gibson with a beaver hand puppet!We already thought he had gone insane. Who ever cast him made a huge mistake.The Gibson of the 1990's might have gotten away with it. But not creepy, jew-hating, wife threatening Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 this is AFI's Greatest musicals list.I have seen those in bold!1 SINGIN' IN THE RAIN 1952 MGM2 WEST SIDE STORY 1961 United Artists3 WIZARD OF OZ, THE 1939 MGM4 SOUND OF MUSIC, THE 1965 Twentieth Century-Fox5 CABARET 1972 Allied Artists6 MARY POPPINS 1964 Disney7 STAR IS BORN, A 1954 Warner Bros.8 MY FAIR LADY 1964 Warner Bros.9 AMERICAN IN PARIS, AN 1951 MGM10 MEET ME IN ST. LOUIS 1944 MGM11 KING AND I, THE 1956 Twentieth Century-Fox12 CHICAGO 2002 Miramax13 42ND STREET 1933 Warner Bros.14 ALL THAT JAZZ 1979 Twentieth Century-Fox15 TOP HAT 1935 RKO16 FUNNY GIRL 1968 Columbia17 BAND WAGON, THE 1953 MGM18 YANKEE DOODLE DANDY 1942 Warner Bros.19 ON THE TOWN 1949 MGM20 GREASE 1978 Paramount21 SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS 1954 MGM22 BEAUTY AND THE BEAST 1991 Disney23 GUYS AND DOLLS 1955 MGM24 SHOW BOAT 1936 Universal25 MOULIN ROUGE!(I'm so happy that they included Beauty and the Beast, my 2nd favourite film of all time!) I'm glad to see On the Town on that list. Not nearly as good as Leonard Bernstein's original score for the Broadway version, but still a fun one. I'd buy a CD release of the movie version in a second.I'd rank several of Menken's efforts above Beauty. Like Pocahontas and Hunchback of Notre Dame.how embarrassing. really really embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 What is embarrassing?the list?or indy's ranking thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 What is embarrassing?the list?or indy's ranking thoughts?his thoughts that those two are better films. I love Hunchback, Pocah. is forgettable, but Beauty and the Beast is filmmaking at it's best. It's a triumph of style, storytelling, music, and animation. It is one of those rare moments of truly outstanding achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Pocahontas is easily one of the worst films to ever be associated with Disney. Oh the music is fine, but its reconstruction of history and talking tree really rub me the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 There's plenty of bigger turds in Disney's catalogue than Pocahontas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 The thing I love most in Pocahontas is the ending, which isn't the usual happy Disney ending! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 There's plenty of bigger turds in Disney's catalogue than Pocahontas.That Fantasia is bullshit! And Snowwhite my arse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 There's plenty of bigger turds in Disney's catalogue than Pocahontas.That Fantasia is bullshit! And Snowwhite my arse!I don't understand if you're serious or if you're kidding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Btw, I'm not implying Pocahontas is a turd. Far from it. I quite like it. As far as Disney Classics go, you can do worse. And as far as Disney goes in its entirety, you can do far, far worse. So saying it's "one of the worst films ever to be associated with Disney" is quite the overstatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 There's plenty of bigger turds in Disney's catalogue than Pocahontas.That Fantasia is bullshit! And Snowwhite my arse! I don't understand if you're serious or if you're kidding!Marc does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 In case you're confused, I always read Stefan's posts in my head in the voice of Jeremy Clarkson. It can clarify his tone a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I have voice presets for a few posters here. Stefan's is Beaker from the Muppets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 In case you're confused, I always read Stefan's posts in my head in the voice of Jeremy Clarkson. It can clarify his tone a bit.My posts are the best, fastest and most fuel hungry posts....in the world!Quint sounds like Richard Hammond in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Alex must be James May then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Alex is the short lived Top Gear Dog.You were The Stig, untill you started talking again..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Alexcremers? I think you'll find he's Hal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 HAL was not on Top Gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I'd rather watch that Herbie movie with Lindsey Lohan than watch poke a hot ass again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 You're Data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 There once was a woman from Venus, her body was shaped like a... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I read Quint with Robert Shaw's voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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