publicist 4,643 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 It still rankles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Mindhunter Season 1, Episode 1 Meh. Decent enough, I suppose. Solid cast (although I'm not sure how I feel about the vulnerable Groff), decent Fincher look and there are some nice 70s dynamics and history lessons being fed here. But it all comes off as Zodiac-lite really, without the nail-biting tension or atmosphere. Might make a decent binge, if given the time, but "Golden Age" material, it ain't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 KK, don't you know we ended the era of #GoldenAge television a couple of years ago and entered the age of #PeakTV (aka "there are too many damn shows")? KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 So I'm aware! But every now and then, we get something special (The Leftovers, Twin Peaks S3, etc). This one seemed to have a lot of hype, but its just more of the same functional TV drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, KK said: So I'm aware, but every now and then, we get something special (The Leftovers, Twin Peaks S3, etc). This one seemed to have a lot of hype, but its just more of the same functional TV drama. Sounds like a Netflix original! The only Netflix I've watched that had anything interesting about it ambition-wise was Sense8 but that buckled under the weight of its own wackadoo-ness. Everything else is overhyped. Including The OA before Jay even speaks up. Admittedly, I haven’t watched Stranger Things, the most famous Netflix show (except maybe House of Cards) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, KK said: Mindhunter Season 1, Episode 1 Meh. Decent enough, I suppose. Solid cast (although I'm not sure how I feel about the vulnerable Groff), decent Fincher look and there are some nice 70s dynamics and history lessons being fed here. But it all comes off as Zodiac-lite really, without the nail-biting tension or atmosphere. Might make a decent binge, if given the time, but "Golden Age" material, it ain't. I'm not racing to see this show (which I only learned existed today), but must everything be of "golden age" quality in order to be even considered as investment material these days? That would mean the absolute wealth of decent also-rans, B-series and overlooked gems available right now wouldn't even be given a cursory glance/chance. And now and then, rubbish first tries get better over time anyway! Indeed; merely flawed first ventures do this, quite often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Not at all, no. There are plenty of shows I'm invested in that I don't consider to be "golden age" material. But something about Mindhunter reminds me of the lesser seasons of House of Cards. Watchable, but not terribly interesting. It's like Silence of the Lambs made for the Netflix generation, without the weight of its predecessor's drama and intrigue. But maybe I should give another episode a chance before I pass judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 How can you call yourself a modern TV snob without committing only to a handful of preordained arthouse shows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 I agree with Quint. If you expect everything to be one of the best shows ever made and are disappointed when it isn't, you're Alexcremers. This show isn't trying to be some spectacular new game changer, it's trying to shed light on the guys who figured out what serial killers are and methods to try to catch them, and dramatising it instead of doing it as a doc. Also, like most all shows made by Netflix, they kind of assume you're gonna binge it or at least watch more than one before judging; network TV shows focus rally hard on creating a strong pilot that hooks you with a big moment. Netflix generally tries to have a strong entire season, without worrying about any individual episode standing on it's own. And in the particular case of Mindhunter, the third main character isn't even introduced until episode 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, Jay said: Netflix generally tries to have a strong entire season, without worrying about any individual episode standing on it's own. Sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 12 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I caught up with the new Curb season yesterday. Not bad. Some prett-ay funny parts. Noticed that Oscar-winning composer Justin Hurwitz had a co-writing credit on the pickle jar episode. This caught my eye as well, but just assumed it was a different Justin Hurwitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Just now, Koray Savas said: This caught my eye as well, but just assumed it was a different Justin Hurwitz. I assume it’s him. He has a few other comedy writing credits, like for The League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Just now, Disco Stu said: I assume it’s him. He has a few other comedy writing credits, like for The League. I just checked IMDb and he’s credited there as supervising producer, so it must be him. Jack of all trades! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Again, I don't expect all TV to be the greatest TV ever. Most of what I watch obviously isn't. I just used the "golden age" thing as a throwaway phrase anyway. But Mindhunter doesn't seem all that intriguing, and I came in expecting more based on all the positive press and the way it was marketed. I will watch a few more eps, which I'm sure will help. The pilot just wasn't that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Has anyone seen Taboo? Looks Golden Age! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 I saw his name in the episode too and of course it's the same guy. He wrote a Simpsons episode a few years back too. One thing I thought was weak about the latest episode was the payoff to the Tesla/beep stuff. The first scene when it happens to Larry was of course great and introduced the cop, and was a classic Curb moment. But instead of it tying back into the main story at the end in some crazy way, it was just Ted Danson getting randomly beat up. Ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 The episode had more of the old Curb's observational humour, which I enjoyed. I did think David's big speech in the court room was more over-the-top than I would like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 It’s not classic Curb but it’s still fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Definitely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 Heh, I enjoyed the court room scene. The judge (played by a Whose Line regular) was pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 The show’s comfort food at this point. It’s not gourmet but it tastes great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 2 hours ago, KK said: The episode had more of the old Curb's observational humour, which I enjoyed. I did think David's big speech in the court room was more over-the-top than I would like. I felt the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 4 hours ago, Koray Savas said: Has anyone seen Taboo? Looks Golden Age! It was not awful but then, it wasn't particularly noteworthy, either. Great production values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 7 hours ago, KK said: It's like Silence of the Lambs made for the Netflix generation, If ever ever a description was to put me off something it's this! 6 hours ago, Disco Stu said: It’s not classic Curb but it’s still fun. Episode 1 was for me. The following two were totally watchable but indeed lesser instalments, in the big Curb pantheon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 I guess I can't get into this Curb analysis you guys are doing here. I mean, I've just watched every episode of the show and enjoyed each one *shrug* I'm not tracking the highs and lows, just enjoying the ride. Out of all the shows I put on the telly each week, this one makes me laugh the most, and that's enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Yeah, it's not really a show worth analyzing too closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I was thinking about this the other day. Any new show/revival has to run the forum analysis gauntlet these days, unfairly. Seasons 1-8 of Curb didn't have to hold up to the same level of pack scrutiny as S9 does, even though there are lesser and even bad episodes in earlier seasons. There was no running commentary about them on here though. Challenges for TV in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 I actually don't even think of this season of Curb as any kind of "revival" in my head whatsoever. It's just another season. Sure, there was a bit of a longer than usual gap between seasons, but any worries that things would be different were set aside right in the season premiere when everything was right back to status quo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Yeah, I agree. It is essentially a revival though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I really enjoyed seeing Rich Fulcher as the restaurant host who answers questions without answering them in the last episode. Snuff Box is still one of my favorite sketch shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 He was familiar. I think I saw him in obscure British comedy The Mighty Boosh a few years ago, as the chief zookeeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Yep! He runs with the Matt Berry-Noel Fielding crowd in the UK normally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 He's been on Drunk History a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I wonder if he'll show up on Bake Off with his pal Noel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 That'd be fun, when is that finally airing? Felt weird to go an August with no Bake-Off, been a tradition in my household for a few years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I think it's been on and finished. Channel 4 make it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Oh shit you're right! I completely missed it! I knew it had switched networks. Which of course makes no difference to how I, ahem, "acquire" it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 It premiered in the UK on August 29th Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Although it's actually still airing! Finale is on Halloween. Sweet! Gonna be catching up on that this week then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Have your cake and eat it lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I saw that Paul Hollywood has a show where he wants to be Jeremy Clarkson or something. Why would I want to watch that guy do anything but baking-related stuff? He's not exactly wildly entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Bored American housewives can't make up their mind who they'd do more though. Him, or Gordon Ramsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Fuck Jamie Oliver, Marry Paul Hollywood, Kill Gordon Ramsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 You've given it more thought than I expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Fuck Nigella, Marry Mary Berry, Kill Julia Child (who luckily is already dead) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Lawson always slightly reminds me of my missus, but Mary Berry would definitely get a proper felching from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Dirty old sod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Less of the sod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Looks like Curb has jumped the shark! http://nypost.com/2017/10/17/curb-doesnt-bring-much-enthusiasm-this-time-around/ https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/oct/13/the-new-curb-your-enthusiasm-is-appalling-slapstick-what-was-larry-david-thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 Nah, its still great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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