A24 4,351 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Sigh! That's why I put more stock in the apostle crocs, Steef! Both directors wanted to make a movie that puts the viewer into the reality of space. Both wanted the audience to experience what it's like to be up there. Both directors also have put an emphasis on the natural hostility of space, reducing man, who has conquered Earth, to a mere helpless infant. Okay, in the end, Cuaron turns man into a victor while Kubrick thought humanity needed extraterrestrial help ... but still. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Yes, but all of those are quite superficial similarities. Both films deal with those issues because they take place in a similar enviroment, but they are very different beasts, as you well know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,351 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I don't think there anything superficial about it. The hostility of space (or as Kubrick calls it: "The indifference of space") is one of the most discussed themes of 2001: ASO. Also, wanting to make a movie that gives the viewer a close to real experience of being in space was a big thing for both directors. It's an important aspect of both movies which resulted in similar scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Of course. But those similarities are so obvious that there barely need to be stressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Mad Men is still just a soap, like Dallas or Dynasty, better looking, a bit more sophisticated, but just a soap nonetheless.If it is then it's probably the finest and most sophisticated soap of all time, alongside The Sopranos. But hang on - don't soaps traditional revolve around a large number of characters of fairly equal importance? Mad Men focuses on Don Draper and The Sopranos is Tony Soprano's story. So do they really qualify as "soaps"? I don't think they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I dunno, I dont watch soaps. Is thats what it's like on Coronation Street? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,351 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 The apostle crocs is surely taking his time for spreading the news truth to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Alex, your palpable interest in and closeted excitement for this movie is most amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 He'll deny it of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Oh naturally. Sometimes it's just fun to set the old wheel a-spinnin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,351 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Isn't it obvious? I don't expect crocs, the bringer of truth, to be all that positive. It's going to be interesting to see discord in the Nolan camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Unlike our Pilgrim Grey, Mr Croc is certainly a very discerning movie goer. He will not let any personal bias get in the way of the truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 If you bothered reading anything we've written about the film, you'd realize it wasn't all positive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 But does Alex take your opinion seriously, KK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 As if one's experience of a fucking film can be free of "personal bias." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,351 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Not since he deemed Jodie Foster's performance in Contact brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 But does Alex take your opinion seriously, KK?Meh. Does it matter?And yes, there'll be personal bias in everyone's experience, including yours Alex.Not since he deemed Jodie Foster's performance in Contact brilliant!I never said that! I said she was hot in that film! And she was good in the film, but wouldn't describe it as brilliant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 As if one's experience of a fucking film can be free of "personal bias."Everyone has their own preferences naturally. But some go into the cinema with an agenda. Like you did I assume. You went in determined that this film would be AWESOME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Isn't it obvious? I don't expect crocs, the bringer of truth, to be all that positive. It's going to be interesting to see discord in the Nolan camp.I disagree, Karol loves Inception and he'll almost certainly bum this as well. He'll act all considered and pragmatic now that I've said this of course, but he'll be in love with it really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 If a desire to enjoy things is an agenda, well, I'm guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,351 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I expect a 7/10 movie. An entertaining flick with some good but also a few bad moments. How do you like my 'precog' review? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Sure, I went in expecting a great film.A good deal of it was great, but some of it isn't. It didn't turn out to be the more visual storytelling project that I had hoped would push forward Nolan to a different phase in his career (one where ambiguity takes preference over plot). But in the end, it was an experience I really enjoyed, and his most personal film yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I expect a 7/10 movie. An entertaining flick with some good but also a few bad moments. How do you like my 'precog' review?Surely a man of your, err... intellect is familiar with the concept of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,351 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 It didn't turn out to be the more visual storytelling project that I had hoped would push forward Nolan to a different phase in his career (one where ambiguity takes preference over plot). You can't teach an old dog new tricks. Surely a man of your, err... intellect is familiar with the concept of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Look who is talking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Yes, that's my point. The difference is I utilize that phenomenon for good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,351 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 With my modest and realistic expectations (not to be confused with Mike Oldfield's 'Incantations'), I can only be pleasantly surprised. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 As if one's experience of a fucking film can be free of "personal bias."That's true. It's just I know this film is close to your heart, since it's a marriage of several things you're crazy about (Nolan/Zimmer/Chastain/Nolan/Chastain/Nolan/Astrophysics) and hell, you've even read the screenplay. It's a already a masterpiece in your mind, it can't fail.Because of that I'm more interested in the take of a sceptical poster. Someone who isn't all already sold on it, hook, line, and sinker. A positive review from that person would draw my attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I have a feeling the third act will undo the film for most people here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I agree. Yet. I have a strange desire to see the film once more, as soon as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,351 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I have a feeling the third act will undo the film for most people here. The "I could have done more" act? The "I could have visited one more planet but I was selfish and wanted to go home to my daughter and now humanity has to settle for a puny planet with little resources' act? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Yeah, because the first two acts are actually really good (even with some minor blimps). It's an experience worth checking out, even for the Nolan cynics.The "I could have done more" act?The "I could have visited one more planet but I was selfish and wanted to go home to my daughter and now humanity has to settle for a puny planet with little resources' act?No. It's more like the "let's explain everything so that the audience can understand how we tried to make everything come full circle" act.The emotional stuff was actually well handled, and even moves you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Hey spoilers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,844 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I read everywhere about 2001 visual references.Can anyone mention a couple or is it spoiler-y? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 It's an exaggeration. There are two such "references." The spinning ship is similar to the Orion station, but that's a stretch. And Cooper's own "Stargate" trip, which bears a similarity to Bowman's for all of a few seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,844 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 It's an exaggeration. There are two such "references." The spinning ship is similar to the Orion station, but that's a stretch. And Cooper's own "Stargate" trip, which bears a similarity to Bowman's for all of a few seconds. Oh, i thought maybe it was more.Anyway, in 22 hours I'll be watching the film..Hope I don't sleep. (I slept at Transformers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 You spend money to see movies and let yourself fall asleep during them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 This review kind of sums up how I felt about the movie pretty well:http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20141107-film-review-interstellarThis one, less so, but it brings up a good point about Hathaway's character:http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/11/interstellar-a-preposterous-epic/382478/2/Both basically agree that despite the film's faults is definitely a movie worth seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,844 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 You spend money to see movies and let yourself fall asleep during them?well, I don't spend any since I rarely go to the cinema the last years.I have gone 4 times in the last 4 years. (Inception, Super 8, Prometheus, Tintin)Transformers is the only movie I fell asleep. The CGI, the loudness and the constant action, made me sleep. (I lost the whole battle in the end. How i could sleep in all that loudness is admirable) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,404 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I have gone 4 times in the last 4 years. (Inception, Super 8, Prometheus, Tintin) What made you decide to skip Gravity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,844 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I have gone 4 times in the last 4 years. (Inception, Super 8, Prometheus, Tintin)What made you decide to skip Gravity?Hmmm...Nothing specific.. I just had a hunch that it's not a film that I'd like to pay to see (the 3D was expensive and I prefered to buy 2 Blurays at that price) and generally it fell in the general view I have that I don't like recent films and I like older better.When I saw it at home, my views were confirmed.Now, why am I going to see Interstellar? As I've said in another post, mostly for the company (I've become more social in the last months or so), but i think I've regretted it already..Oh, I've also seen The Tree of Life, so that's 5 films in 4 years.The only film now I'm really really looking forward to see, is Voyage of Time in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Now, why am I going to see Interstellar? As I've said in another post, mostly for the company, but i think I've regretted it already..Lol. You're a character.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,404 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Inception is from 2010, so it's older than everything else you're talking about (Super 8, Tree of Life, and Tintin from 2011, Prometheus from 2012) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 It's a very good film, you should definitely see it on the big screen if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,844 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Inception is from 2010, so it's older than everything else you're talking about (Super 8, Tree of Life, and Tintin from 2011, Prometheus from 2012)yes, that's why I said 5 movies in 4 years.Oh, it's 5 years then, right? (2010-2014)It's a very good film, you should definitely see it on the big screen if you can.I will watch it in a V-max screen, that I read is the biggest in Europe. (though i doubt it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,404 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,022 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 It's certainly a different to what I expected. But also feels like a familiar territory for Nolan in other respects. As far as comparisons go, I would say it's neither Kubrick nor Inception. More of a Solaris by Steven Soderbergh.Will try to put together a more coherent review over the weekend. Maybe watch the film again, even. We'll see.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Will you give a comprehensive review in the other thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,022 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Yes, I will.What I will say here, however, is that I'm actually impressed with Zimmer's score. Not overbearing and often subtle. And not over-spotted as well. Well done, Hans!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Well it was a bit overbearing at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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