Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 That's a beautiful album. Haven't seen anyone mention it here aside from myself a few years ago. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Many years ago, I went to see Dennis Russel Davies conduct Holst's Planets. That was a solid performance, but what really stood out that evening was the first Daugherty I ever heard (no, this is not that performance): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 His Tuba Concerto is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 As some of you might know, along with his composer brother, David (also a fine and very different composer), Collin Matthews worked with Deryck Cooke on the performance edition of Mahler's Symphony No. 10. In "Cortege", we hear a strong presence of Mahler in Collin Matthews' own music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 23 hours ago, nightscape94 said: His Tuba Concerto is excellent. Not available in my region. But good to know of one more Daugherty I haven't heard yet. I'll keep a lookout for the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Continuing my "Chronlogical" Bach Playlists collection. At Prince Leoplod's court in Cöthen (parts 1 and 2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Guten Morgen! Two of the well-known secular cantatas Bach wrote: the wedding cantata and the coffee cantata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 This is amazing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Some thrilling stuff: karelm and Jilal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 6 hours ago, loert said: Some thrilling stuff: Yes, that's a good one. I heard it live and it packs a punch! Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Surprisingly engaging music from a Belgian composer. I definitely need to meet him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I just love this...so much visceral energy! Also, such a great tam tam smashing and a great false ending. Reminds me something that could be in the Temple of Doom's climactic moments like when Indy returns except the Foulds was written in the 1920s. Sharkissimo and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Never heard of Foulds before. This is pretty wild. Almost Pro-John Adams at moments. karelm and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 13 minutes ago, Sharkus Malarkus said: Never heard of Foulds before. This is pretty wild. Almost Pro-John Adams at moments. Wow, this is groovy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Sharkus Malarkus said: Never heard of Foulds before. This is pretty wild. Almost Pro-John Adams at moments. I was thinking the very same thing… There's a bit of John Adams here as well. He was way ahead of his time...a maverick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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karelm 2,915 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 As a tribute to yesterdays passing at the age of 87 of the great Finnish composer, Einojuhani Rautavaara, I give you this radiant movement from one of his most popular works. He was a wonderful and evocative composer and highly worth exploring his diverse and compelling output. RIP Joni Wiljami and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Somewhat of an "exhibition" in orchestral sonority. I could imagine putting this on as background music for a stargazing session... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 11 hours ago, karelm said: As a tribute to yesterdays passing at the age of 87 of the great Finnish composer, Einojuhani Rautavaara, I give you this radiant movement from one of his most popular works. He was a wonderful and evocative composer and highly worth exploring his diverse and compelling output. RIP The only Rautavaara I have in my collection seems to be On the Last Frontier, and while I've always been meaning to hear more by him, I hadn't even listened to that for years. I played it again now; it's quite wonderfully, sometimes surprisingly reminiscent of Sibelius, at other times closer to Shore. I like your clip, too. I really should move him higher up on my todo list. Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Sublime (the middle part of 'Lento e Largo' was raided by James Horner occasionally). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Hearing the first movement live for the first time was a seminal musical moment for me. KK and Jilal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Continuing my "Chronlogical" Bach Playlists selections. To the Margrave of Brandenburg, March 24, 1721 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Starting another collection of playlists to revisit the works of Mozart in Chronological order, and then again, using my favorite recordings. W.A. Mozart - Vol. 01 - The Salzburg Symphonies (1772) W.A. Mozart - Vol. 02 - Concerto for a castrato (1773) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 On 30.7.2016 at 8:57 AM, TheWhiteRider said: Hearing the first movement live for the first time was a seminal musical moment for me. I love the simple means that still achieve a profound effect on the listener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 There is one key thing as a composer that I've been taught, and have in return tried to teach, and it is that. Jilal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 On 29.7.2016 at 3:51 AM, Marian Schedenig said: The only Rautavaara I have in my collection seems to be On the Last Frontier, and while I've always been meaning to hear more by him, I hadn't even listened to that for years. I played it again now; it's quite wonderfully, sometimes surprisingly reminiscent of Sibelius, at other times closer to Shore. I like your clip, too. I really should move him higher up on my todo list. Is that Frontier thingy that choir piece and which recording you have? I play in HPO recording.If the memory serves it was in english. Somehow weird music but still very fascinating, pure Rautavaara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Choir and orchestra, yes, and I have no idea what recording I have. It's a rip from a CDR a friend made me 10+ years ago, and sadly untagged. The running time is 24:02. If you can recommend a recording, I'd happy to pick up a CD with it and some other Rautavaara stuff. Edit: I missed the middle part of your post originally. Yes, the lyrics are in English. I guess you mean this recording: https://www.amazon.com/Last-Frontier-Helsinki-Philh/dp/B00000IM61/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1470002015&sr=8-1&keywords=rautavaara+last+frontier Seems to match my timestamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 22 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Choir and orchestra, yes, and I have no idea what recording I have. It's a rip from a CDR a friend made me 10+ years ago, and sadly untagged. The running time is 24:02. If you can recommend a recording, I'd happy to pick up a CD with it and some other Rautavaara stuff. Edit: I missed the middle part of your post originally. Yes, the lyrics are in English. I guess you mean this recording: https://www.amazon.com/Last-Frontier-Helsinki-Philh/dp/B00000IM61/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1470002015&sr=8-1&keywords=rautavaara+last+frontier Seems to match my timestamp. Yes that is the recording I was playing with. Actually it can be the only recording made of this piece... I'm sadly not any Rautavaara specialist to do any recommendations , I own basically only those I'm playing with. Surely composer worth to explore, too bad we usually wake up after the artists pass away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/04/arts/music/review-mostly-mozart-big-music-doesnt-need-huge-halls.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-1&action=click&contentCollection=Music®ion=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article Idiocy! Yes, let's sacrifice marvelous acoustics because people are dumb now and can't be expected to sit high and far away from the source of the music itself. Give them cocktail tables to feel more comfortable. Ye gods! The NYT should get shut down by Trump! Gnome in Plaid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 On 29.7.2016 at 2:51 AM, Marian Schedenig said: The only Rautavaara I have in my collection seems to be On the Last Frontier, and while I've always been meaning to hear more by him, I hadn't even listened to that for years. I played it again now; it's quite wonderfully, sometimes surprisingly reminiscent of Sibelius, at other times closer to Shore. I love this one: Complete with bird calls and all it could have been a great springboard for a score like 'Avatar' with no input coming from James Cameron, of course. Loert and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 2 hours ago, TheWhiteRider said: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/04/arts/music/review-mostly-mozart-big-music-doesnt-need-huge-halls.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-1&action=click&contentCollection=Music®ion=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article Idiocy! Yes, let's sacrifice marvelous acoustics because people are dumb now and can't be expected to sit high and far away from the source of the music itself. Give them cocktail tables to feel more comfortable. Ye gods! The NYT should get shut down by Trump! I don't see the problem. Aren't there ... enough intimate chamber music halls as well? Why don't they go and play the music there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Ticket sales probably. Less money to be made in a smaller venue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I love the textures of this piece. Really cool, evocative use of wind band. karelm and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Mackey is a cool guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Yeah I was reading about him this morning. Interesting background, not being a musician. Concentrating on composing for wind band makes him stand out from the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 6 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Yeah I was reading about him this morning. Interesting background, not being a musician. Concentrating on composing for wind band makes him stand out from the crowd. Hmmm...John Mackey who has a bachelors from the Cleveland Institute of Music and Masters of music from the Juilliard School and studied with Corigliano is not a musician? Interesting. His resume is extensive and accomplished. What does it take to be a "musician" in your book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 7 minutes ago, karelm said: Hmmm...John Mackey who has a bachelors from the Cleveland Institute of Music and Masters of music from the Juilliard School and studied with Corigliano is not a musician? Interesting. His resume is extensive and accomplished. What does it take to be a "musician" in your book? Yep, this blog entry of his details how he got into composing as a child without ever picking up an instrument (it was through early composition computer software): http://ostimusic.com/blog/how-i-spent-my-teen-years/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 17 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Yep, this blog entry of his details how he got into composing as a child without ever picking up an instrument (it was through early composition computer software): http://ostimusic.com/blog/how-i-spent-my-teen-years/ Oh I see what you mean. Just remember composing and performing are not the same though they inform each other. There are many great composers who were not good performers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I bet there are plenty of composers who claim the piano as their instrument who would also classify themselves as non-performers if they were as honest as John. karelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Mozart in chronological order. W.A. Mozart - Vol. 03 - Quitting Salzburg (Normally I would have chosen the Karajan/Mutter versions, but they are not available on Spotify) W.A. Mozart - Vol. 04 - Europe Tour 1777-1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Chronological by when it was written, published, found, or recorded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 By when it was finished and generally played in public for the first time. And when these was Premières historical performances, performed by the composer himself, I try to reproduce the program. This took me a lot of time. I was tired of listening classical music the way the modern recorded music industry present it, i.e. by work types. All the piano sonatas, all the concerti, all the string quartets, all the symphonies, etc That's the work of a lifetime, I mean Mozart didn't wake up a morning and decided to write 27 piano concertis!!! I propose a more natural and human way of (re) discovering this music. After Bach and Mozart, I will create a 22 volumes compilation for Beethoven too. I always use my favorite recordings, these are not versions taken by random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Intriguing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 At 17, Mozart wrote a concerto for the famous castrato Venanzio Rauzzini, whose technical excellence he admired. At 36, Bach regrouped all his best works and send them to the Margrave of Brandenburg... in the hope to get a better job. On 22 December 1808, a benefit concert was held for Ludwig van Beethoven at the Theater an der Wien in Vienna. The concert, held in a very cold hall and approximately four hours long, featured the public premieres of Beethoven's Fifth and Sixth Symphonies, the Fourth Piano Concerto and the Choral Fantasy. Music has an history, I say it's fascinating! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Here's my Beethoven chronological set of playlists. Vol. 1 - Vienna's greatest virtuoso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 A classical summer concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Just coming back from taking a walk in the neighborhood, playing at ComposerGo and trying to catch'em all! Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 On 05/08/2016 at 1:27 AM, karelm said: There are many great composers who were not good performers. Could you list some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 36 minutes ago, Sharkus Malarkus said: Could you list some? Berlioz, Mussorgsky, Tchaikovsky, Wagner, Christopher Young, and Schoenberg off the top of my head. Ravel is described as "competent" which is not glowing. These were all at least satisfactorily competent but not virtuosic. My point is that poor performance skill is not an impediment to being a composer as long as their is at least some competency. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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