Score_Fan 36 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 MJ came of as a wheepy selfish bitch.Yep, which is why when Peter hit her, my audience started clapping LOLYeah I don't really care, they're poorly made films.For you, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 One man's poorly made crap is another man's deliciously crafted panini. Argument is the fuel that keeps the Internet burning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I like panini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Panini are the worst kind of sandwiches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,445 Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 They're the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Second best. Ice cream sandwiches trump all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 They're the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 They're the best!For you, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,445 Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 Randy Newman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 That is not hygienic Jason! Did you at least cover your mouth?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Marc Webb's film isn't perfect (it's a big studio picture after all), but it's infinitely better than Raimi's films.No.Spider-Man beats the hell out of Amazing Spider-Man. TASM had a story that was a constructed piece of trash. Still better than SM3 though.It's same story from Spider-Man with a different villain.... and far less finesse in execution.It may be the same basic story, but in execution it's very different, and quite clumsy and stupid. Thinking about it, it's not even the same story, except for the origin story, which is also different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score_Fan 36 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Scientist is under pressure from bigger corporation than himself, takes self-made serum, turns into evil crazy monster (although Norman went insane instead of becoming a lizard man), while Peter Parker learns to harness his power as Spider-Man. Just told like shit instead of having finesse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,445 Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 Yea, when I saw TASM in the theater I couldn't believe how much of a rehash of the original film it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Well one does have to remember the Riami film was quite old at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 TASM is a sterile blockbuster production. SM had more of a soul, in spite of some typical patriotism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Scientist is under pressure from bigger corporation than himself, takes self-made serum, turns into evil crazy monster (although Norman went insane instead of becoming a lizard man), while Peter Parker learns to harness his power as Spider-Man.Except we don't give a shit about Connors because he's not related to Peter in any way, while Osborn was almost like a father figure to him in Raimi's film, making the whole confrontation with the Goblin more personal (and thus more interesting).But his father and him were friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Yeah, but Peter's relation with Connors is nowhere near as strong as his relation with Norman in Raimi's film. It's just: "I knew your father" "Oh, cool!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 TASM is a sterile blockbuster production. SM had more of a soul, in spite of some typical patriotism.Well, the patriotism was a direct result of 9/11, so I forgive it in the first film. The other two were just there to make it blatantly obvious that they were just copying the structure of the Superman films. I enjoyed Amazing when I first saw it, but the more I thought about it the more I realized how empty it was. It was just a remake of a ten year old film, with a different villain but so many other aspects identical that it really hurt the film. The marketing was all about Peter's "secret history" let by the time the studio was done, we were left with an empty remake that was better than Raimi's effort in some ways, and weaker in others. Neither series has done anything perfectly, but are clearly going after two different audiences. Raimi was making films off of the Spidey comics of the 60s and 70s, while Webb clearly is using the Ultimate universe. What you're left with is a lot of familiarity in Webb's movie because it doesn't try to do anything different. I'll give the next one a chance as I'm a big Spidey fan, but I am past the point in thinking that we'll get a really good Spidey film anytime soon. There's just too many factors against it at this point for me. At this point, the 90s animated series, which reused the same shots of Peter swinging around NYC every episode, is probably still the best adaptation for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Yeah, but Peter's relation with Connors is nowhere near as strong as his relation with Norman in Raimi's film. It's just: "I knew your father" "Oh, cool!"Sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score_Fan 36 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Scientist is under pressure from bigger corporation than himself, takes self-made serum, turns into evil crazy monster (although Norman went insane instead of becoming a lizard man), while Peter Parker learns to harness his power as Spider-Man.Except we don't give a shit about Connors because he's not related to Peter in any way, while Osborn was almost like a father figure to him in Raimi's film, making the whole confrontation with the Goblin more personal (and thus more interesting). TASM is a sterile blockbuster production. SM had more of a soul, in spite of some typical patriotism.Well, the patriotism was a direct result of 9/11, so I forgive it in the first film. The other two were just there to make it blatantly obvious that they were just copying the structure of the Superman films. I enjoyed Amazing when I first saw it, but the more I thought about it the more I realized how empty it was. It was just a remake of a ten year old film, with a different villain but so many other aspects identical that it really hurt the film. The marketing was all about Peter's "secret history" let by the time the studio was done, we were left with an empty remake that was better than Raimi's effort in some ways, and weaker in others. Neither series has done anything perfectly, but are clearly going after two different audiences. Raimi was making films off of the Spidey comics of the 60s and 70s, while Webb clearly is using the Ultimate universe. What you're left with is a lot of familiarity in Webb's movie because it doesn't try to do anything different. I'll give the next one a chance as I'm a big Spidey fan, but I am past the point in thinking that we'll get a really good Spidey film anytime soon. There's just too many factors against it at this point for me. At this point, the 90s animated series, which reused the same shots of Peter swinging around NYC every episode, is probably still the best adaptation for me.I agree on just about everything you said, however, (despite some bad things like Venom), I think Spectacular Spider-Man was the best adaptation of him so far. Raimi's is second only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Yeah, but Peter's relation with Connors is nowhere near as strong as his relation with Norman in Raimi's film. It's just: "I knew your father" "Oh, cool!"Sarcasm.You can't handle sarcasm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Scientist is under pressure from bigger corporation than himself, takes self-made serum, turns into evil crazy monster (although Norman went insane instead of becoming a lizard man), while Peter Parker learns to harness his power as Spider-Man.Except we don't give a shit about Connors because he's not related to Peter in any way, while Osborn was almost like a father figure to him in Raimi's film, making the whole confrontation with the Goblin more personal (and thus more interesting). TASM is a sterile blockbuster production. SM had more of a soul, in spite of some typical patriotism.Well, the patriotism was a direct result of 9/11, so I forgive it in the first film. The other two were just there to make it blatantly obvious that they were just copying the structure of the Superman films. I enjoyed Amazing when I first saw it, but the more I thought about it the more I realized how empty it was. It was just a remake of a ten year old film, with a different villain but so many other aspects identical that it really hurt the film. The marketing was all about Peter's "secret history" let by the time the studio was done, we were left with an empty remake that was better than Raimi's effort in some ways, and weaker in others. Neither series has done anything perfectly, but are clearly going after two different audiences. Raimi was making films off of the Spidey comics of the 60s and 70s, while Webb clearly is using the Ultimate universe. What you're left with is a lot of familiarity in Webb's movie because it doesn't try to do anything different. I'll give the next one a chance as I'm a big Spidey fan, but I am past the point in thinking that we'll get a really good Spidey film anytime soon. There's just too many factors against it at this point for me. At this point, the 90s animated series, which reused the same shots of Peter swinging around NYC every episode, is probably still the best adaptation for me.I agree on just about everything you said, however, (despite some bad things like Venom), I think Spectacular Spider-Man was the best adaptation of him so far. Raimi's is second only.I always tend to forget about Spectacular. It was really good, but the fact that it just ended ruined it for me. Its definitely a great twist on Spidey using the Ultimate universe, I just wish their was more of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,445 Posted November 29, 2013 Author Share Posted November 29, 2013 New poster, includes the Green Goblinhttp://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=111917 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I wonder if Goblin will look like from the Raimi version (the first film, which I loved!) or not... too bad it only shows a shadow type of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Electro, Green Goblin AND Rhino? It's like SM3 all over again.Why don't they just make the Goblin closer to the look in the comic book? Surely a guy with a well-made goblin mask isn't more ridiculous than a Star Wars-impersonator shooting lightning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I'm assuming they will set him up in film 2 and in film 3 he will be the main baddie. Trent B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 That's the Rhino? Oh, my god... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score_Fan 36 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 This poster looks just like the rest of the movie. Fucking awful. Rhino's look sucks, I've already posted my thoughts on Mr. Fre-I mean, Electro. Also, Harry-Goblin before Norman, no bueno. Spidey's suit is gorgeous though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Who says Harry will be the Goblin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score_Fan 36 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 There was a rumor, posted somewhere on SuperHeroHype around last summer, with someone giving out leaked info about the movie, and they'd been right about leaked info from TASM1 (no snout for lizard, parents storyline being dropped midway, important scenes & Connors family getting cut out.) Also, there's a video or another description of (Foxx? I think) during an interview with DeHann and he said something along the lines of Dane being the Goblin, and DeHaan gave a smirk. There's also this, apparently leaked storyboards : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Way to go to separate yourself from the established, successful films that came before You'd think that once they got the origin story out of the way, they would want to do something more original, or close to the comic book. Rebooting a series just to deviate from the origins again. Hooray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score_Fan 36 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 One of the biggest offenders is Harry being Goblin before Norman, yet they strained that one of the reasons for the reboot was for Comic Book Accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,745 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Strained or stressed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score_Fan 36 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Both, I remember several interviews at the time were it was told (multiple times) about how hard they wanted it to be more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Well, epic fail then if there ever was one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score_Fan 36 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Leaked trailer.http://vk.com/video64139721_166971057?hash=2a69c08c1af19175I just see no point in this franchise at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 That link leads nowhere.Was it just the teaser showing different swinging shots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score_Fan 36 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Must've been removed. But no, it was a full length trailer, and it showed some pretty big money shots & spoilers.Oh, and here's what Goblin looks like, and yep, it's Harry alright. This movie just gets worse and worse the more I see of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Looks like freaking Beetlejuice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Looks like Billy Idol. It's a nice day for a white wedding, Spiderman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 My Armour Is CGI. Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Looks good! I hated the Raimi Goblin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I think that looks decent enough!Electro, Rhino and Goblin are in the film and we get Doc Ock and Vulture hinted at... I wonder what they could be building up to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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