Jay 37,376 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Did the inverted (is that the right word?) version of Gandalf's theme from 'Quest for Erebor' play in the TC? I noticed it did here. Oh, good! SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 325 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 haMy hope is already vindicated it appears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 But then any restored music in that scene was all I noticed throughout. And I guess that was because it had been extended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I really enjoyed that sequence, as I said Sher does a great job with Thrain. But Azog looks much better in the second Azanulbizar flashback - more like he does in DoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I take it you're not feeling the scene then?My favourite aspect of these films (indeed Tolkien's books in general) is the Dwarves and their history, so I dig these kind of flashbacks a lot, and indeed the whole Thrain arc. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflectionInternal 0 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Interesting, yet straightforward take on Bard's theme by french horns in the "this is the world of men" deleted scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Music highlights:Beorn introWorld of Men: Laketown as a a brass fanfare!More Politicians of laketown.Braga has a motif now?Wistfull statement of the Heirs of Durin for a discussion of the prophecyHealing of Thrain.Also, the ring theme is tracked and layed over scenes depicting the Dwarf Ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Ok, the first flashback... TRACKED MUSIC! Using briefly "Durins Theme" and some sound effects. Poorly FX.There is a short stint of unreleased Durin theme though in between the tracked bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 When Jay gets a chance to see that scene (it is on YouTube, but he may want to watch the EE in full, which is perfectly understandable), I'm interested to know if the music chimes with what he knows/thinks should be there. SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,376 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'm watching the entire EE film tonight all the way through after work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Guess what!The music that was interrupted by Conrad Pope's phone ringing in the score production diary is the music for the second Moria battle flashback when Azog is taking Thrain's ring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 You scare me sometimes, Fal.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'll just leave this here:Durin's Folk (Complete Extended Version)https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9TTVQREVfN2hNVmc/view?usp=sharingThere is a short extension of music for the Laketowners talking about the prophecy, due to shots of Alfrid being inserted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,376 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Guess what!The music that was interrupted by Conrad Pope's phone ringing in the score production diary is the music for the second Moria battle flashback when Azog is taking Thrain's ring!Heh, neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 If I heard it correctly, the tail end of Feast of Starlight (the extended ring theme) is tracked into the Gandalf/Thorin prologue as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 If I heard it correctly, the tail end of Feast of Starlight (the extended ring theme) is tracked into the Gandalf/Thorin prologue as well.Yep, I noted that on here yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,376 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Some great new music here. Not sure if 'House of Durin' during the prologue flashback was new, but after that, during the discussion of Thror's Ring, they definitely track some music from the end of 'Feast of Starlight', where Bilbo is lurking around the Woodland Realm dungeons. But that was all the tracked music I noticed (that's not to say there's more...just what I noticed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 If I heard it correctly, the tail end of Feast of Starlight (the extended ring theme) is tracked into the Gandalf/Thorin prologue as well.Its also layered over other music during Thrain remembering the Battle of Moria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I like how some of the extended Mirkwood music has a similar sound to "Flies and Spiders" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Finally watched the documentary! Really great stuff, with a good amount of time allocated for the details of the whole process !! Faleel will be overjoyed. There are tons of unreleased bits here and there.But it was disappointing to learn that they recorded in stems on the last day of recording, for a lot of the unfinished Smaug scenes. That's why the music sounds kind of all over the place with edits and all.Very cool regardless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy are these extras not for download? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Yup. I watched it on iPad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy are these extras not for download? What do you mean? They're included in the digital releases, hence why people have been able to watch them.If they were for download, I could get my hands on them (other than itunes).Again, the EE is not available in my region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Faleel will be overjoyed. There are tons of unreleased bits here and there.Heh Anything in particular?BTW this is all the unreleased music from the EE scenes:https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9LTA5YVQ1UXh5d1E/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9LXVNMTZEU3laRUE/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9Q0hwaGVCUXBuR2M/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9RWtkeVZMajB4QXM/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9TTVQREVfN2hNVmc/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9Y2R2eWtVaVFTMk0/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9cEFsUWw3UHMxblk/view?usp=sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchel.815 7 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Hey Guys, Does anybody knows why Howard Shore isn´t in the extras for the Hobbit Movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Because he did not conduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchel.815 7 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 But even for the first film? in AUJ he conduct right? i´m asking because i remember a video on the youtube, but when i watched the extras for the first film he wasn´t there, in 8 hours of extras! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,376 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The AUJ EE didn't have a music featurette, DOS does. There's a video online of him conducting from the AUJ sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchel.815 7 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Ok. thanks Jay. i´m really love to see these behind the scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Yup. I watched it on iPad! BUT WE ARE IN LOCKDOWN YOU CAN'T GO WATCHING THINGS ON YOUR FANCY IPAD ON A DAY LIKE THISIt was BEFORE the lockdown!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,376 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy are these extras not for download? What do you mean? They're included in the digital releases, hence why people have been able to watch them.I suppose it's splitting hairs, but they are available for STREAMING, but not for DOWNLOAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Faleel will be overjoyed. There are tons of unreleased bits here and there.Heh Anything in particular?BTW this is all the unreleased music from the EE scenes:https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9LTA5YVQ1UXh5d1E/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9LXVNMTZEU3laRUE/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9Q0hwaGVCUXBuR2M/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9RWtkeVZMajB4QXM/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9TTVQREVfN2hNVmc/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9Y2R2eWtVaVFTMk0/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9cEFsUWw3UHMxblk/view?usp=sharingOff the top of my head, you'll find clean versions of the more playful renditions of the Master of Laketown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 Hearing Shore's music being hacked in the extended scenes is like being anally probed with razor wire. I can't for the life of me understand why PJ just can't leave the score the fuck alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,376 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Yea - the "stop and go" dialing out of intended music during the Battle of Moria flashback and Gandalf/Thrain chase scene were just as bad as the Flies and Spiders and Forest River Chase sequences from the theatrical cut. Bah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Urgh. Thanks Jay - now I am left to wonder what the intended music was for the Battle of Moria flashback (and I know you've sort of explained it, but how it sounds I mean). How we need complete recordings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I haven't watched the appendices yet (probably won't for a while), but there are lots of unreleased bits in the menus, ranging from cool variations of Mordor skip-beats and descending thirds, to some other wilderland stuff. This score would indeed warrant a CR. Just not sure it's going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Well it's music from the first half of the score! I think it was missing Beorn stuff.And there w as lots of little Laketown bits in the music documentary.The problem is, I'm not sure how they would assemble everything into an ideal musical presentation like the CRs when it all ended up kind of all over the place in film. That's why I'm not confident we'll be getting a CR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I suppose KK. is referring to the "Stems" approach to scoring that was used for parts of this film, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 What does that mean anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I would assume, its just recorded as short little bits that can be mixed and matched according to how the director wishes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,376 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The problem is, I'm not sure how they would assemble everything into an ideal musical presentation like the CRs when it all ended up kind of all over the place in film. That's why I'm not confident we'll be getting a CR. I don't what you're on about here. Shore scored the entire film with a strong musical narrative like always. I haven't seen the music doc yet, but if there were some Smaug bits recorded before enough footage was ready for traditional scoring, then those little bits would still find a nice home I am sure. Everything else is extremely straight forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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