Alex 2,835 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I do like Negan though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I don't think I've ever suffered through a worse character in any TV I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 10 hours ago, Alex said: The second half of season 7 is better than the first but still not brilliant. I watched some of the first season today, amazing how the quality has declined. Do you know if it's made by the same people? (I'm mainly referring to writers and directors) I always thought the decline started when Fear Of The Walking Dead was released. Maybe some of the key talent was moved to work on the new show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I believe so. Scott Gimple and Greg Nicotero are still in charge. I meant Greg Nicotero. Not Frank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 But ... Frank Nicotero is a comedian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Alexcremers said: Do you know if it's made by the same people? (I'm mainly referring to writers and directors) I always thought the decline started when Fear Of The Walking Dead was released. Maybe some of the key talent was moved to work on the new show. Well Frank Darabont (who developed the show) was show runner until the second half of the second season. I think it was a shock when he left. 8 hours ago, Quintus said: I don't think I've ever suffered through a worse character in any TV I've ever seen. He's a bit cartoonish, I'll admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Well, it is a comic book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Aside from the superb pilot, Frank Darabont's season is weak. I'd say only the most recent season is worse actually. I know season 2 had its many detractors, but I really enjoyed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: Well, it is a comic book. Lee doesn't really like comic books. I'm sure he prefers not to really think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I don't read comics anymore (I'm 39) but I do enjoy pulpy entertainment - the origins of which are often comic books. Sorry about that mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I think one of the main problems the show has is that there's far too many characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Yes, though it's not problematic anywhere near to the extent it is Game of Thrones, with its dozens of threads (most of which I've completely lost track of). The Walking Dead's biggest problem most recently is absolutely wank writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 This season they seem to be incapable of focusing on more than one storyline in an episode. A whole episode solely on Tara and Heath, for example, was completely ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I skipped that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Wish I had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Tara and the Amazons? It completely glossed over the fact she could have been, ah, satisfied her whole life with all those women. I'm also getting annoyed by how all the Georgia woods are supposed to represent the area around Alexandria, VA, which is pretty damned urban with lots of sites to raid for supplies. Nope, the show makes us feel like we're back in colonial Virginia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 The Redcoats would have made short work of those zombies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 19 hours ago, Alexcremers said: Do you know if it's made by the same people? (I'm mainly referring to writers and directors) I always thought the decline started when Fear Of The Walking Dead was released. Maybe some of the key talent was moved to work on the new show. It's not; Frank Darabont developed the show and was show runner for the first season. Then he and AMC had a massive disagreement, and he walked away from everything in between Season 1 and 2. After he left, Glen Mazzara was show runner for seasons 2 and 3, and then Scott M. Gimple has been show runner ever since. FTWD premiered between seasons 5 and 6. 17 hours ago, Alex said: Well Frank Darabont (who developed the show) was show runner until the second half of the second season. I think it was a shock when he left. Nah, he left after season 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Frank Darabont is no longer relevant to The Walking Dead. He's gone. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I stopped watching at the end of last season. I'll start watching again when Rick is gone forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Looks like you'll never be watching again! He'll be around until the very end I reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 It'll probably end with Karl or his daughter shooting his zombified self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Haven't see Coral for close to three months. Forgot all about him. It's all about the Kingdom now. And Eugene. Eugene brings the sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,512 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Guess I'm one of the few who still enjoy the show. I like how the current season is set up to build like none before. There are a lot of repetitive figures, but I don't really mind them. And I like how the zombies take more and more backseat to serious drama (this was always the case with the show, of course, but moreso over the last couple of seasons). I've never read any of the comic books, so please don't spoil, but it's certainly set up as one of the most fulfilling 'revenge thrills' in its entire run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 10 hours ago, Thor said: Guess I'm one of the few who still enjoy the show. I like how the current season is set up to build like none before. I like how the zombies take more and more backseat to serious drama (this was always the case with the show, of course, but moreso over the last couple of seasons). So, the show is better than ever before, Thor? Interesting .. I feel the others have a point (too many characters, lack of focus, all over the place, etc.) but in the end I don't really mind. Yes, I think the quality has deteriorated. It has become more 'B', like the B movie sci-fi of the '70, but the show still has its moments. Negan is over-the-top but it's entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I can't speak to recent seasons since I gave up on the show at the mid-way point of season 5, but consistent quality was never part of the show's DNA. However, it was at least watchable, and in the time I watched it, nothing I would call terrible. Season 3 was the best, Season 4 was also pretty stellar, with a much stronger second half. Season 2 upon a second viewing was solid, and I love season 1. Then season 5 happened, and it all went into the shitter. Ironically, the first episode was amazing. It quickly stumbled, limped, and then performed self-immolation in the mid-season finale with one of the worst scripted, edited, and conceptualized episodes of television I've ever seen. Not just of the show. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I liked the rail track season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 @KK I watched episode 11 and it was finally something I can get behind, it was a solid dialogue driven entry and entertainment wise a far cry from the utter slog of previous episodes in the season. If you were inclined to rejoin at that precise point you could do quite comfortably, and you will have missed practically nothing of interest or importance. Here, I'll even provide a quick and helpful catch-up of crap events so far: Neagan rules the roost. Carol has left the group again this time to become a hermit, but the King and his tiger really want to remain chums with her. Daryl eventually busted out of solitary imprisonment and escaped to The Kingdom, but he's restless, he misses Carol and Rick. The latter of whom has gotten over his insufferable defeatism at last and has resolved to build secret alliances with The Kingdom, Hilltop and a third new 'scrap-punk' tribe of unimaginative oddballs who were at first a bit mean to him but a few minutes later swore allegiance so long as he promises to provide them with "stuff" later on, after the upcoming battle of the five armies. You would rejoin just after Eugene is taken into custody by Neagan... KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Five armies. Teeheehee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Cheers Lee! Appreciate it. I might just do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 No problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Really enjoyed last week's Rick and Michonne episode (apart from the rubbish CGI deer), but then this week's was another relative plodder. As mentioned the lack of focus, characters spread out too thinly across too many different places and 'filler' episodes are all highly noticeable this season. Maybe cutting the amount of season episodes back to 12 or even 10 would help tighten and sharpen it all up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Somehow I don't buy the Rick and Michonne relationship. Does that make me a racist? I hope not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I don't know how anyone can be intimate on that show. They all must absolutely reek KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Rick and Michonne do live in Alexandria, where they have running water and maybe soap. Though they were on the road for days looking for supplies. I don't remember if they were in a car or an RV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Are you trying to be a lyricist, Wojo? You have talent! Rick and Michonne do live in Alexandria Where they have running water and maybe soap Though they were on the road for days looking for supplies I don't remember if they were in a car or an RV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Why would they build a deer in CGi instead of just filming a real deer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 They seemed capable of doing it properly in Season 2 when Carl approaches that deer, which is then shot. Looked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Episode 12: The Rick & Michonne episode. Has anyone here ever seen Z Nation? Well, this is the 'level' TWD is spiraling down to. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Another show I'm glad I never committed too. I guess it's back to movies then, Alex! The Golden Age is over folks, nothing to see here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Nobody associates TWD with TGA, Steef. Why don't you just stick to episodic garbage of CBS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Ouch! Poor Steef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 That was Joe's show I think. Never seen a single episode. My favorite Sherlock Holmes series was the old Granada/ITV show from the 80. Now that was quality TV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Episode 13 of TWD was yet another rubbish waste of time, one you can happily skip if you haven't already. Morgan started killing again, big wow. I hope he dies soon, I'm sick of him. Strange to think he was once quite a cool character. Besides that, the rest of the cast pondered the thought that they might have to fight the Saviors again, while standing around looking tired. This season has been appalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Holy freaking zombie shit, this article gets it. It gets it! https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/03/17/the-10-biggest-problems-with-season-7-of-the-walking-dead/#46e91c3e1477 It's impossible to be more right about this horrible excuse of a season. I particularly agree about the stupidly large amount of survivors and multiple communities present in the world at this point. It's almost like normal fucking life in America for these people. Is an open for business Wallmart going to feature in season 8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 They will have internet again soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 The show is in desperate need of a shake up. Scott Gimple has been the show runner since season 4. Surely it wouldn't hurt to get someone in with fresh ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Vince Gilligan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Now that would be good. Just hire the whole of the production/writing staff from Breaking Bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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