Quintus 5,399 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 For me it's all about the bunnies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 36 minutes ago, Quintus said: Well then, $11 it is. Does Showtime air in 320x240? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,520 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I haven't read the million replies since the series premiered, but I just caught up on it after having spent some days in Cannes. I really like it, although I do have some qualms. Badalamenti, for example, is sorely missed throughout most of the first 4 episodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 What are you talking about? He's listed in the credits for all 4 episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Nah, I agree with Thor that some of the scenes set in Twin Peaks itself are so far sorely lacking Badalamenti's music, although I've mentioned that this is likely quite deliberate and for later effect. mstrox and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 It's kind of jarring how little of this is scored. There's the occasional droning dread, but many, many scenes that are just musically silent. The Ben/Jerry and Andy/Lucy stuff especially, just kind of falls flat for me without anything under it. And the Lodge stuff, where previously there was "always music in the error," now dead silent. The "main plot," as it is (Cooper/Mr. C) is scored and left unscored perfectly, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 My hope is that Badalamenti will creep in more and more as we progress. Andy and Lucy's scenes, which are essentially exactly the same as they were 25 years ago, do fall completely flat, without the daft music. I don't think that's intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Quintus said: Nah, I agree with Thor that some of the scenes set in Twin Peaks itself are so far sorely lacking Badalamenti's music, although I've mentioned that this is likely quite deliberate and for later effect. I for one am glad they havent gone back to tracking in the same couple of cues over and over again like they did on the old show. That grew tiresome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,520 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, Quintus said: Nah, I agree with Thor that some of the scenes set in Twin Peaks itself are so far sorely lacking Badalamenti's music, although I've mentioned that this is likely quite deliberate and for later effect. I hope so too. So far, 90% has been Lynch's own 'dark drones'. I'm hoping we'll get to hear more Badalamenti eventually, also newly composed stuff (not sure if there is any new Badalamenti in the 4 episodes at all?). I absolutely LOVE the songs that end the show, though. The bands nail the TP sound perfectly. I feel that large stretches of the episodes lack a bit of 'energy', and a lot of that energy came from Badalamenti's score in the original where the themes intertwined and pulsated both in and out of scenes. But yeah -- I realize this is a very different take on the whole universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I for one am glad they havent gone back to tracking in the same couple of cues over and over again like they did on the old show. That grew tiresome. I know what you mean and it's a reasonable thing to say, but so far we've gone from one extreme to another. 3 minutes ago, Thor said: I absolutely LOVE the songs that end the show, though. The bands nail the TP sound perfectly. I'm not so sure about these. It's a bit teenagery trendy to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 True, but like you said, I'm confident Badalamenti will slowly ease into the show as it begins to focus more on the town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,520 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Quote I'm not so sure about these. It's a bit teenagery trendy to me. I don't get that at all. The Chromatics stuff, in particular (who are certainly not "teenage trendy"), is spot-on. I also loved Chromatics head shot Johnny Jewel's score for LOST RIVER, which was very much a Lynch-inspired affair. And what about that old 50s song that ended episode 3, I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Never heard the Chromatics, but I did really love that song. Thought Pt 3/4 songs were pretty good. Felt Peaksy enough. The episodes all just kind of stop (which makes sense since Lynch intends this to be an 18-hour single piece, as opposed to episodes), and having musical interludes makes sense for some end credits. I wonder if he's saving Julee Cruise for a special moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 29 minutes ago, Thor said: I haven't read the million replies since the series premiered, Well, you only have to go back to page 29 to read JWFanners thoughts on the four episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 The first time it ended in the bar with the song it was a cool moment, and it fit the Twin Peaks universe perfectly. But I don't like the idea of every episode ending in this way at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,520 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Quote Well, you only have to go back to page 29 to read JWFanners thoughts on the four episodes. Cheers, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 hour ago, mstrox said: The Ben/Jerry and Andy/Lucy stuff especially, just kind of falls flat for me without anything under it. And the Lodge stuff, where previously there was "always music in the error," now dead silent. The "main plot," as it is (Cooper/Mr. C) is scored and left unscored perfectly, in my opinion. 1 hour ago, Quintus said: Andy and Lucy's scenes, which are essentially exactly the same as they were 25 years ago, do fall completely flat, without the daft music. I don't think that's intended. 1 hour ago, Thor said: I feel that large stretches of the episodes lack a bit of 'energy', and a lot of that energy came from Badalamenti's score in the original where the themes intertwined and pulsated both in and out of scenes. But yeah -- I realize this is a very different take on the whole universe. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 In many ways, I feel you really need to watch the previous 30 episodes in order to truly enjoy this, but it goes well beyond of just following the plot. Like the previous series was a continuous aesthetic re-education, step by step, that is now allowing me to be enjoying these new episodes as much as I am. And it's like mstrox said: at this point, I find it hard to watch anything else. I just don't want to leave this world. Everything else seems indeed to be so mundane. I could even watch Cooper scoring jackpots and screaming Hellooo for another 3 hours or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Just for fun Once and KK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 That does wonders to this scenes. The comic beats play much better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,520 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 THAT's what I'm talking about! Excellent work, Mr. Bellamy. Gives a whole other level TWIN PEAKS-ness to the scenes. The time gap between the dialogue in the first scene cries out for some music, especially because it's "quirk". The second scene also works better, even if I wouldn't have used "Audrey's Dance" myself. Applying music in scenes like this is not really about 'conventionalizing' it, but adding necessary energy. While the more suspenseful scenes work with Lynch's own sound design (the dark drones), I also think Badalamenti's darker music could have worked. If I'm not mistaken, they DO use some of it as Hawk searches the woods for the Black Lodge. I also love the song he used as we're introduced to Evil Cooper in the night driving scene (forget who did this); works much like Rammstein in LOST HIGHWAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 The latest on viewing figures for Twin Peaks: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tv-ratings-a-modest-start-twin-peaks-return-skews-streaming-1008141 In regards to music; I actually thought the Wally Brando scene worked oddly very well without any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Haha I sort of agree in a way. It was really just the only other comic scene I could find to take from YouTube. Btw found the full bunny scene and thought "Freshly Squeezed" was fun covering the rest too so here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,520 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Cool! Personally, I would have started the music a bit earlier (around the time when she says "the bunny!"). Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I think Andy's line marks a tonal shift but I really just went with it because it's where everything else lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Pfft, next time just try to think how Thor would prefer to see your edits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,520 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 50 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: I think Andy's line marks a tonal shift but I really just went with it because it's where everything else lined up. Yeah, we're all amateur music editors here! I think the music entering at Lucy's "bunny" comment would be appropriate to deflate the situation, i.e. stressing the fact that she has not made some remarkable discovery of what's missing. mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I agree on Ray Wise! I thought it was old footage for a second when he came up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Perhaps Lynch shot on widescreen stock? Or open matte like Super 35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Like how Lynch says a lot without actually saying anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crocodile 8,019 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 End credits? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Omg Lynch has gotten predictable in his old age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I haven't actually watched new episodes yet. Seen about the first 20 minutes of the pilot. Had such a massive headache (a somewhat Lynchian one at that!) that had to switch it off. Will get back to that once I have bit more time. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 You might be better off for it. I binged on 4 eps a week ago and am feeling the withdrawal symptoms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Oh the headache wasn't caused by watching it. I just wasn't feeling very well that night. You need to be mentally prepared for David Lynch. Otherwise, it will kill you. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 That's not what Steef meant anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 When is the next one? And why isnt it now? mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Oh I know what he meant. It's a lynch on senses and brain matter. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stefancos said: When is the next one? And why isnt it now? Just rewatch the first 4 episodes! You missed a lot of stuff! Did you notice the color of Albert's socks? mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 We still haven't started this, and with House of Cards returning today and OITNB returning next week, its unlikely we'll start before the July 4th break. Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,520 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 OITNB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 No idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Orange Is The New Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Jason watches that? I thought it was for women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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