Incanus 5,716 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I thought the didgeridoos were fairly apparent in Bred for War...I always thought they were just blowing into vacuum cleaner tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Like a tramp sitting in front of a train station, trying to make some money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Like a tramp sitting in front of a train station, trying to make some money!Hey you have such entrepreneurish musicians there too?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 "World music" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTRHobbitFan 20 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I thought the didgeridoos were fairly apparent in Bred for War...It might be my hearing but the only moments I can make them out is when the track starts and then only at 1:52 near the middle of it. Is there any other part of the track where they sound noticeable?I also find the BOFTA score an enjoyable listen besides the mixing. The choral work is the best the Hobbit trilogy has to offer, the Gundabad and Dain themes are special pieces, and Shore brings the most bombastic battle cues in this score for this trilogy. "Courage and Wisdom" is pure Shore magic with the way he creates true emotion to fit the scene. Especially Thorin and Bilbo's scene. Too many tears! I just wished for more of Tauriel's action theme. Only seems to appear once in "Ravenhill".But she is mostly sidelined from the action so the action versions of her theme are not used. It is Legolas time!Plus they went for the emotional bittersweet tone for that scene where she is desperately trying to reach Kili and not getting there in time.Courage and Wisdom has a beautiful The Passing of Theoden styled mood going on, the elegiac tone which is in great part responsible for my belief in Thorin's atonement at the end.True! Legolas had lots of moments to shine in BOFTA. His mother was an invisible cameo with her choral theme. Shore must be a genius to think Legolas' mother was so important! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I thought the didgeridoos were fairly apparent in Bred for War...It might be my hearing but the only moments I can make them out is when the track starts and then only at 1:52 near the middle of it. Is there any other part of the track where they sound noticeable?I also find the BOFTA score an enjoyable listen besides the mixing. The choral work is the best the Hobbit trilogy has to offer, the Gundabad and Dain themes are special pieces, and Shore brings the most bombastic battle cues in this score for this trilogy. "Courage and Wisdom" is pure Shore magic with the way he creates true emotion to fit the scene. Especially Thorin and Bilbo's scene. Too many tears! I just wished for more of Tauriel's action theme. Only seems to appear once in "Ravenhill".But she is mostly sidelined from the action so the action versions of her theme are not used. It is Legolas time!Plus they went for the emotional bittersweet tone for that scene where she is desperately trying to reach Kili and not getting there in time.Courage and Wisdom has a beautiful The Passing of Theoden styled mood going on, the elegiac tone which is in great part responsible for my belief in Thorin's atonement at the end.True! Legolas had lots of moments to shine in BOFTA. His mother was an invisible cameo with her choral theme. Shore must be a genius to think Legolas' mother was so important!Oh wow Leggy's mom has both the Gems of Lasgalen motif and Woodland Realm choral music to accompany her invisible presence. Man she is important! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Shore is as much to blame for this mess as anyone, essentially giving Tauriel 3 themes, and crafting much of an end credit suite around them. He needs to stop devoting so much music to unimportant characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Shore is as much to blame for this mess as anyone, essentially giving Tauriel 3 themes, and crafting much of an end credit suite around them. He needs to stop devoting so much music to unimportant characters.Hey he was the unwitting slave to the picture! He is innocent I tell you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Shore was Tauriel's greatest champion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 The post-production was messy. I wondered why Shore didn't agree to come down to NZ for a couple of months and do the recording sessions like in LOTR? Maybe his ageBack pain.Pacemaker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTRHobbitFan 20 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Did SUH create a new account?The post-production was messy. I wondered why Shore didn't agree to come down to NZ for a couple of months and do the recording sessions like in LOTR? Maybe his age Back pain.Not really. A lot of the CGI, especially in ROTK has not aged well. Especially for the trolls, and other creatures.Even Gollum looks dodgy in some scenes. You look dodgy!I'm definitely not SUH. Just a Shore and Williams music lover who's waited a whole year following this thread to join in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KK 3,307 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 We have two SUHs now?! Tolkien Central will implode with all that optimism! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LOTRHobbitFan 20 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Great minds think alike!Imagine two BBs outperforming Doug Adams' push to have Hobbit CRs with all their doubt and negativity washing poor Doug away like the Entwash! SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LOTRHobbitFan 20 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I like you!I have always thought that you were a great supporter of Shore's Hobbit music and being the post he could lean on when his pacemaker struggled to kick into pumping gear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Ugh this lovefest is sickening. Let's get back to the grim brooding dissection of the movies instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,716 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The music is good though. Even great I would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The Plan 9 theme is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Down from the door where it began... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Maybe Doug can tell us if Shore scored that scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 http://newboards.theonering.net/forum/gforum/perl/gforum.cgi?post=879130;sb=post_time;so=DESC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;guest=157715761So if this scene was restored in the EE, do we think 'The Road Goes Ever On' would have still scored it? Could be quite a nice connection to Bilbo in FOTR.Is that person wrong as the track 36 of FotR CR is Enya's May It Be. So is it In Dreams hyman setting he is refering to or perhaps The Road Goes Ever On Part 1 (aka Breaking of the Fellowship)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,716 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 'The Road Goes Ever On'? What are you referring to? The song?I haven't heard it. But I thought they meant the song Bilbo/Gandalf sung in FOTR.Though presumably the music was tracked so it can't be (there's no orchestral version of that song?). Would have been neat though IMO.Well there is a specific mention of the track in the post so I would think it is one of the Shire theme variants. The title Roads Goes Ever On refers to the track title on the CR.Anyway the acorn scene sounds like a nice idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I think it's more likely they meant 'The Breaking Of The Fellowship'.Yup. So Shire theme at its most weepy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Apparently the Rivers of Gold Music Video is a Joke video, so nothing important there ;(http://newboards.theonering.net/forum/gforum/perl/gforum.cgi?post=879082;sb=post_time;so=DESC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#879283 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Its a joke. PJ giving Shore's fans a final "FUCK YOU!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LOTRHobbitFan 20 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Taking a look back at the BOFTA score, we know that Shore could only compose to the large amount of battle-specific scenes in the film, hence the reason why most of it sounds very similar. Would you have preferred to have seen more variety in the score compared to the majority of it as martial-like? Did minimal character development in the film influence this lack of variety (needed more quiet, meaningful moments rather than loud, brash war music)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTRHobbitFan 20 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 The character development of Bard certainly helped to establish at least a few meaningful moments as we see in "Shores of the Long Lake". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,716 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Yeah, and then never again in the score!Oh, by the way: we're not getting CRs!Alas the whole re-establishing Dale was never in the cards. That could have given a brilliant chance for Shore to compose a proper send-off to Bard's themes. Which PJ would have mangled in the post of course but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTRHobbitFan 20 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Yeah, and then never again in the score!Oh, by the way: we're not getting CRs!Alas the whole re-establishing Dale was never in the cards. That could have given a brilliant chance for Shore to compose a proper send-off to Bard's themes. Which PJ would have mangled in the post of course but still.It is interesting to note that Bard's theme only reappears after the refugees' situation in "Battle For the Mountain". (Not counting "Ironfoot")The reason for BOFTA's dry mixing was due to the fact that they built a huge bonfire in the midst of the Wellington Town Hall and burnt all of Shore's compositions into it! While the smoke filled the room Conrad Pope's Hobbit score sounded from the orchestra and made it onto our beautifully packaged CDs! Jackson laughed with glee! Bofur01 and Gollum Cat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Yeah, and then never again in the score!Oh, by the way: we're not getting CRs!Alas the whole re-establishing Dale was never in the cards. That could have given a brilliant chance for Shore to compose a proper send-off to Bard's themes. Which PJ would have mangled in the post of course but still.It is interesting to note that Bard's theme only reappears after the refugees' situation in "Battle For the Mountain". (Not counting "Ironfoot")Yes there is a bit of an embarrassment of riches when Bard's thematic family is concerned with his own theme, the leader theme and the family theme plus the Girion/Bard/Black Arrow theme all vying for attention.Also that sounds like an accurate description of what happened at the Wellington Town Hall last year. Gollum Cat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barnald 365 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I always wondered if Shore intended to do something Dale-y with that bit.To be honest, I'm also left scratching my head as to why Shore bothered introducing the 'Bard the Leader' motif, which is heard, what, once in the film? Even on the soundtrack (Ironfoot notwithstanding) it only features in tracks intended for early parts of the film. Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful that he did, it's a great theme, but it doesn't really go anywhere. I have to think he composed it with Bard's crowning and the rebuilding of Dale in mind, but any intention to include these scenes clearly fell by the wayside. It might have also helped in terms of scoring potential had they shown Bard helping to rally his people for a final charge out of the city (along with the Elves and Gandalf) to help the Dwarves on the plain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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