Amer 2,109 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Can someone confirm the length and the individual cues used in the Concert Arrangements of the LINCOLN score-Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 The Three Pieces from Lincoln suite comprises of 3 movements:I The People's House (approx. 5 minutes): Album counterparts more or lessThe People's House, parts of Freedom's Call, The American Process trumpet solo and Peterson House and Finale.II Getting Out the Vote (approx. 3,5 minutes): Album counterpart Getting Out the Vote but the orchestrations are more elaborate in the suite.III Elegy (approx. 3,5 minutes)IV With Malice Toward None (approx. 4 minutes): Album counterpart With Malice Toward None but here there is a new cello introduction (uses the 4 note theme of the People's House) and the piece is extended and elaborated compared to the OST version. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 What about the Gettysburg Anniversary Piece? it's also derived from Lincoln right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 What about the Gettysburg Anniversary Piece? it's also derived from Lincoln right?No that is an entirely different piece altogether composed for a campaign video against some kind of casino proposition that threatened the historical area apparently. Basically a handful of celebrities appear on the video to appeal to people and reading Lincoln's Gettysburg Address with some accompanying underscore from the Maestro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamsStarShip2282 308 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Is there a recording of the gettysburg piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Here is the Capitol 4th of July performance of With Malice Toward None for solo trumpet and orchestra: EDIT: Check the MovieMusicMaestro's post below for the video of the Gettysburg piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 The Lincoln concert suite is actually in four movements:I. The People's HouseII. Getting Out the VoteIII. Elegy (For Two Trumpets and Strings)IV. With Malice Toward None'With Malice Toward None' is available in two different arrangements: one for strings (with emphasis on solo cello) and the other for solo trumpet and orchestra (originally written for Christopher Martin).http://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.do?itemid=4491245&lid=4491245&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6&&viewtype=songlist Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 The Lincoln concert suite is actually in four movements:I. The People's HouseII. Getting Out the VoteIII. Elegy (For Two Trumpets and Strings)IV. With Malice Toward None'With Malice Toward None' is available in two different arrangements: one for strings (with emphasis on solo cello) and the other for solo trumpet and orchestra (originally written for Christopher Martin).http://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.do?itemid=4491245&lid=4491245&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6&&viewtype=songlistAh thanks for elaborating Maurizio. I didn' t know they had added Elegy to the suite. Do you happen to know if it corresponds to the Elegy on the OST album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,109 Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Thank You folks- This is for a *special project' Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 The Lincoln concert suite is actually in four movements:I. The People's HouseII. Getting Out the VoteIII. Elegy (For Two Trumpets and Strings)IV. With Malice Toward None'With Malice Toward None' is available in two different arrangements: one for strings (with emphasis on solo cello) and the other for solo trumpet and orchestra (originally written for Christopher Martin).http://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.do?itemid=4491245&lid=4491245&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6&&viewtype=songlistAh thanks for elaborating Maurizio. I didn' t know they had added Elegy to the suite. Do you happen to know if it corresponds to the Elegy on the OST album?It's slightly extended than the OST album counterpart. When JW introduced the piece during the Chicago concert last November (what a great performance that was!), he also revealed that it was originally written for the scene when Lincoln mourns the victims on the battleground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Interesting little revelation on the spotting of the piece. I had a suspicion it was to underscore that particular moment. Could it be that the shorter version at the end of the Southern Delegation and The Dream is actually the cue meant for that scene.I think Thor mentioned that a string orchestra in Norway also performed the Elegy at a local festival in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,109 Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 I do remember reading in a JW interview on the subject that that there were many other cues recorded that did not end on the film or something to that effect. Probably an extra hour worth..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I remember that JW told in an interview that about 90 minutes of music was recorded all in all. The OST has about 50 and the FYC has a few more pieces so I think those constitute a lion's share (well over half) of the music written for the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMusicMaestro 33 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Some of the information given so far is incorrect.The Suite from LINCOLN which has been published by Hal Leonard includes these titles:1. "The People's House" (which is a combination of "The People's House", "The Blue and Grey" and "With Malice Toward None"), ca. 5:252. "Getting Out the Vote", ca. 3:053. "Elegy" (for two trumpets and string orchestra), ca. 2:50 --- The concert version has ten bars more than the recording: 4. "With Malice toward None" (for string orchestra), ca. 3:305. "With Malice toward None" (for solo trumpet and orchestra), ca. 3:45 --- This is identical with this recording: A live recording of nos. 1, 2 and 4 as performed by the Boston Pops Orchestra under the musical direction of John Williams can be heard here: The Gettysburg music was written and recorded in 2010. You can find it here: I don't see any resemblance or connection between the Gettysburg music and the LINCOLN score. Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Ah quite right MovieMusicMaestro! Thank you for that correction! I mixed the Gettysburg piece and the Capitol 4th of July version of the With Malice Toward None for orchestra and solo trumpet. Gettysburg composition is entirely unrelated to the Lincoln score ideas. Only the Americana writing is the thing in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 The music used on the "No Casino Gettysburg" was first heard during the Barak Obama campaign, at the Democratic convention, in which accompanied a short video directed by Spielberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 The music used on the "No Casino Gettysburg" was first heard during the Barak Obama campaign, at the Democratic convention, in which accompanied a short video directed by Spielberg.Always a font of knowledge on these more obscure Williams pieces Miguel! Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 No problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Oh! I didn't get get to check out Williams' Gettysburg piece! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 894 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 What is the official title of the piece from the Obama campaign? (Was it a Democratic National Convention video?) And is it commercially available? I want to say I've heard of something called "America, the Dream Goes On" or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 The DNC video is calle A Timeless CallThe piece he wrote for president Obamas inauguration is Air and Simple giftsAmerica the dream goes on is an unrelated concert piece he wrote in the 80s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 "A Timeless Call" can be found here."America, The Dream Goes On", for soloist, chorus and orchestra was written in the early 80's and premiered in 1982. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 now I'm mixed up, is the No Casino Gettisburg part of A Timeless Call?I don't recall ever hearing this or if it was discussed on the MBEdit: ok I had saved a crap recording of A Timeless Call and it seems to be the same music, or maybe not exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 On 20/9/2014 at 5:34 PM, Miguel Andrade said: The music used on the "No Casino Gettysburg" was first heard during the Barak Obama campaign, at the Democratic convention, in which accompanied a short video directed by Spielberg. I was just cleaning my bookmarks and found this video. Why isn't this in the works of the composer in the main page and why hasn't it been discussed any further? It's new music, right? edit: Never mind. I found it is music from A Timeless Call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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