#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 This dawned on me while watching the DoS EE earlier today.Spin-offs of Tolkiens written works already exist when it comes to games, so why should there not be spin-off movies? Set in Tolkien's Middle Earth, but without being actually based on his books.This is what Disney will be doing with Star Wars, Marvel is essentially doing this with it's movies, so why can't Warner Bros and New Line do this with their Middle Earth franchise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 It would really depend on what do they have rights for. The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings is all they own at the moment so everything else is off limits in terms of characters and stories. Appendices of LotR have mostly the bare bones of bigger historical stories like the Kinstrife of Gondor or the Wainrider wars or the history of the Rohirrim and the history of the North Kingdom. All are ripe with great individual stories large and small and with development one could imagine these periods would be less constricting than the canon era of Lord of the Rings where everything is put down to smaller detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 With The Hobbit, LOTR and the appendices you have pretty much anything post Silmarillion. Also they could just invent stories and characters and set it in Tolkiens world. I'm sure this is done for games, so why not movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 New Line can make films out of any characters in The Hobbit and LOTR, just not story elements only described in The Silmarillion. So yea, they certainly could make spinoff movies - and I'm sure they will. Dunno why you are acting as if they've never even thought of or discussed it - of course they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 Where did I say that they never discussed it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I can already imagine a high profile Rangers of the North spin-off TV show about the Dunedain of the North Kingdom. With gratuitous sex and violence of course. It would combine the period drama with subtle fantasy elements and be set in the post destruction of Arthedain in the 2000s of the Third Age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I want a Balrog mini series explaining how they began life as a peace-loving Maiars and ended up being seduced by Melkor, but done in the style of Breaking Bad. Gnome in Plaid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I was thinking when I was watching either AUJ or DOS sometime that a movie about the whole Dwarf/Orc war would be pretty good. To stick to Tolkien it would contradict what was shown in the Hobbit movies, but it is a great story that would work well on screen for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I want a Balrog mini series explaining how they began life as a peace-loving Maiars and ended up being seduced by Melkor, but done in the style of Breaking Bad.Sorry, that is Silmarillion stuff. No can do unless they buy the rights and Tolkien Estate ain't selling I wager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Too many threads devoted to this BOOOORING author. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 Zimmer-fan! Gnome in Plaid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 The thing is Tolkien spin-off movies just wouldn't sell as well as Star Wars or comic book films. The reason this franchise makes as much money as it does is because of PJ and returning elements of LOTR in cast and story. Once you make a movie about just the Rangers with a whole different cast and crew, people will stop caring, and would rather watch the 10th Avengers film instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 A while back I saw a blog post that had an excellent proposal for an Akallabêth movie. I'll have to track it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Personally, I wouldn't even see why The Silmarillion ought to be produced.I've read it, and it's B-O-R-I-N-G.Also, Tolkien’s son, Christopher published it posthumously and is therefore the author’s literary executor. Good luck getting him to fork over the rights after what he said about the LOTR and Hobbit trilogies.Or you can wait until 2043. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 You know I was kidding when I called Tolkien boring. I hope you are too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 It won't be in the public domain by 2043 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 You know I was kidding when I called Tolkien boring. I hope you are too....As do I...for his soul's sake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Okay. Boring was the wrong word. It was... long.Really long.I can't get the Children of Hurin out of my head....It won't be in the public domain by 2043Silmarillion was published in 1977 when the copyright law was "Author's lifetime +50 years" and, up until 1976, had just been "56 years even if the author is still alive" (Opportunistic much?) Now, thanks to the 1998 copyright law renewal which is now "Author's lifetime +70 years," the math indicates that Silmarillion's copyright will expire on September 2, 2043. Otherwise, it would've expired on Septemeber 2, 2023.So unless the Tolkien estate plans to renew the copyright law on Silmarillion again, mark your calender for September 2, 2043....And incidentally, 2116 for the collective works of Harry Potter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,223 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 They may have the rights to The Silmarillion, but the Tolkien Estate can't stop my long-planned Barliman Butterbur franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2014 They may have the rights to The Silmarillion, but the Tolkien Estate can't stop my long-planned Barliman Butterbur franchise. Gnome in Plaid, Smeltington and Glóin the Dark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Please no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I'll take that as a "yes"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Hell no. Middle Earth is soooo boring!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I'll take that as "Middle-Earth is so coooool!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Drax is the biggest Tolkien fanboy on the web! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Tolkien helped me kick my sleeping pill addiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 Drax is AWESOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 And Drax thinks Tolkien is AWESOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Tolkien's so boring, I had to read L.D. Groban poetry to stay awake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Totally makes sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 They'd look like video games by the time they got to tv anyway. Plus they'd be invisible to the naked eye and would require special glasses in order to perceive the image within the layers of colour graded post processing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 They'd look like video games by the time they got to tv anyway. Plus they'd be invisible to the naked eye and would require special glasses in order to perceive the image within the layers of colour graded post processing.A mantis shrimp would have no problem watching it, then. Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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