BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Visual effects are still great. This enterprise feels more real than the CGI models in film nowadays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 it's too bad the director's cut can't be in HD for some reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 It's too bad, the director's cut looks a little more polishedMy main gripes with the film:The acting and cast interaction doesn't seem as good and natural as in the TV show or the later films. It's like all the cast seem detached or don' t really want to be there, or they forgot how to play their characters. There's a huge difference between this movie and Wrath of KhanSome sequences are extended way too long and the overall story isn't that interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,553 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Has anyone seen the T.V cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I love STTMP probably because I was a big fan of the original. It just oozes with mystery and there were actually alot of episodes that used this same formula. For example, the one about the giant space ameoba where the whole episode was the crew trying to understand a powerful planet destroying mysterious entity. My rating for the directors cut of the film is 8/10, Music 10/10, Shatner's hair piece: 0/10. And.....who...............could...ever...........matchtheShatnercadence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I love it because it looks and sounds incredible. Are the characters at their best here? Probably not. But it's like this great spectacle I can't stop watching once I've started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Has anyone senn the T.V cut?I did when it aired back then. I actually liked the TV cut a little better.Correction...I saw a repeat of it in the 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I've only ever seen the Director's Cut, and that was only when I got the DVD, when, a decade ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Your grade for the score Bb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 He put that here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I saw it in the theater and I liked the FX by Douglas Trumbull. Obviously, the movie wanted to be a Kubrick version of Star Trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 When sci-fi was still daring and ambitious! Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 BB, I agree that the acting is, I guess basically pretty stiff in this film, and it seems like the cast has no chemistry together. You'd think after 3 years of doing 24-29 episodes per year they would all have great chemistry together when reunited, but maybe the director or Roddenberry told them to act in the way they do in this film. I dunno.Luckily the problem is immediately solved in the next film, where they all have great chemistry again, which continues for the rest of the movie series.~Another interesting thing is that for some reason, even though The Motion Picture came out about a decade after the show ended, it only takes place a few years after the show ended, so you have this weird thing where everyone looks way older but it supposed to be younger. Sticking them in those truly awful outfits didn't help either. Luckily this is also immediately rectified in the next film - it came out 14 years after the original series episode Space Seed (which you may want to watch before you watch the film), and it takes place 14 years after that episode. So all the actors are now aging exactly with their characters, and they are all in way better outfits too, not to mention the much better acting and chemistry too. Of course a lot of that is due to writing as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 TWOK is a prime example of a "part 2" that learned from the mistakes of it's predecessor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 So basically, less creative control from Roddenberry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Then what is about episodes of the original series, which would have had a lot of creative input from Roddenberry, that made them work on levels that The Motion Picture didn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 People change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Season one of TNG is generally considered as incredibly poor. And it's also the one season of TNG that Roddenberry produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 If they absolutely had to "redo" one of these films, it should have been this instead of WOK. Executed a little better, there's a fantastic movie in there instead of just a watchable one. The Decker/Ilia angle, and their eventual merging into a new sort of being, could be done awesomely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 If they remade it now atleast it could feature a Decker not played by a child molester! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 If they remade it now atleast it could feature a Decker not played by a child molester!Hey, at least the guy played a minister on 7th Heaven. I think he breaks even... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 My actual response to that would be offensive to most Christians and against MB rules.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 He thought he'd dabble in Catholicism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 He put that here:http://jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/19349-What-Is-The-Last-Score-You-Listened-To?#entry1054888Takes me to the menu and not a post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Haha, Wojo failhttp://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums§ion=findpost&pid=1054888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Eh, so much for trusting Copy Post URL in Tapatalk on a mobile. It's such a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I still just browse jwfan right in Chrome when I'm on my phone. Never installed tapatalk at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 You tried, thanks. However an 8 out of 10. Insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I will never view this site on Chrome on a mobile again. Bumping that View Full Mode button with my fat fingers is too much of a headache. And it's relatively faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 You tried, thanks. However an 8 out of 10. InsaneAren't you a fan of the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Michael Fassbender would be perfect as Decker in the remake! He actually looks a bit like the young Stephen Collins!"Jim, I want this. As much as you wanted the Enterprise, I want this."Ridley Scott was definitely influenced by this Decker fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Deckard = Decker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 No, David The Android. Deckard already existed before Scott came on board of BR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Oh I'm sorry. I tend to forget Prometheus exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Hey, its Kirks girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Hey, its Kirks girl Based on that, I wouldn't have minded a 5:40 long, 360 degree tour of either Rachel Nichols' or Diora Baird's Orion girl in the first Abrams reboot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 One thing I forgot to mention is that while I was OK with the reveal of the Enterprise scene, it is quite ridiculous, when you think about the course the space shuttle takes: Kirk and Scotty arrive on the port side of the ship, they "fly" along it to arrive in front of it, then they fly along its starboard side to finally go back to its port side and reach the airlock. Basically, they take a 360° tour of the Enterprise in a "Fuck, an unstoppable entity is coming towards Earth to destroy it! We must do something!" context... Well, they don't seem too concerned about that here!The Enterprise wasnt fully staffed even after Kirk arrived, so the 360 degree tour didnt slow them down.It's a great scene visually and musically. Thats all I care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 BTW fun fact BB, one of the people who die in the transporter accident was supposed to be Kirks Wife (in Roddenberry's novelization). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 "Subatomic bastards. I've never been able to forgive them for the death of my wife." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 BTW fun fact BB, one of the people who die in the transporter accident was supposed to be Kirks Wife.I never heard that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I wonder if it was in that big limited-run hardcover "Making of" book about The Motion Picture that was sold a few months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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