Uni 306 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 So . . . that qualifies as a "plan?" To not be an asshole to someone until they reach a certain post count . . . and then to choose to be an asshole after that? Do you think we'll retain a lot of newbies who, as soon as they hit #151, suddenly get pounded to dust for no reason they're aware of?The alternative, of course--and I know I'm stretching things a bit here--is to simply not be an asshole. Like, ever. I think we'll have plenty of retention if we follow that track.The flip side, however, involves just what your definition of "asshole" is. Some folks can't handle strong personalities. Some people can't handle a simple dissenting opinion. Let's face it, some softskins should just shut their computer down and steer clear of the interwebs. People speak their minds in places like this, and if you can't deal with that, you shouldn't be in places like this. Lively debate is what makes a subject-specific internet forum such a great place to hang out.There's another, similar plan you could consider (if you're genuinely interested in opening the door to new members and keeping them here): instead of putting them on a learning curve with us, you could choose to put yourself on a learning curve with them. Pay attention to their posts, see where their interests are, test the waters of their particular sense of humor in some harmless fashion. See how they react to some of the more belligerent exchanges between veterans. Watch and learn how quickly they fit into the dynamic here. If we were to get, say, another BloodBoal (God help us!), he/she would probably waste little time in stirring some waters on their own, and you'd know you wouldn't have to wear kid gloves when handling them. If another younger poster, particularly a young lady, were to start breaching the water with a few experimental posts, you're probably intelligent (or at least intuitive) enough to understand that it'll take a while before she's ready to put on the spikes and kick in with the rest of the yamuckamucks. (And counting down the posts until she reaches 150 is probably the best way to ensure her speedy departure when the time comes.)But there's one more dynamic in play that your plan doesn't account for: as we've already read from people in this thread, most folks lurk for a good while before they jump in and start posting, and most of them don't need a 150-post limit to know how things work around here. For some, there's a reason they haven't opened up yet (could have to do with some of that whole "asshole" thing). And some of them might be reading this thread and nodding their heads at the reminder of just why they've kept silent up to now, and why they'll continue to do so as a result. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I agree that we don't need another Bloodboal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 If Uni were a Marvel character he'd be Italics Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Anyway....he delivered the bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Forums are people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Alvar, could you imagine a second Stefancos posting here?No one would want that, me included.Same goes for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I agree that we don't need another Bloodboal!He's the highest rated poster here, which is more valuable than your worthless post count! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I agree, post counts hold little to no value. Its all about the quality of ones contributions, not the quantity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 A humble Stiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Wrong pussy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Galore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 That's my little octopussy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I for one think we should be horrible to new members as a rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Female members too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I don't have that capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Nor do I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.anschutz 43 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 As a newbie, I play it safe - watching from the shadows not saying much of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 If Uni were a Marvel character he'd be Italics Man That's your opinion, dude. (Pay no attention to the fact that the bold "IM" on my shirt is slanted to the right. . . .) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I agree, post counts hold little to no value. Its all about the quality of ones contributions, not the quantity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 It's Jay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 It's a funny image! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 Uni, the the alternative plan you propose picks too many nits and is too intricate to be adopted successfully en masse. Few, if any, people are going to change their habits and personalities to design custom-catered forum experiences for some newbie. Keep it simple, and people will do it: if <150 posts, don't go out of your way to hand them their ass in an argument or bash them for liking Hans Zimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 That misses the point. My bafflement rests altogether on the notion that we have to propose and adopt a plan en masse . . . in order to be civil and decent to people who just want to hang out and discuss our favorite subject with us. Blows my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 We should be nice to the newbees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 That misses the point. My bafflement rests altogether on the notion that we have to propose and adopt a plan en masse . . . in order to be civil and decent to people who just want to hang out and discuss our favorite subject with us. Blows my mind.I don't know where you live, but last I checked, civilization had to propose and adopt a plan en masse to keep people from murdering each other at will. Do you by chance live in the Garden of Eden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Yes he does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 As a newbie, I play it safe - watching from the shadows not saying much of anything.Wise.And never consider making a John Williams discography! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Just make one correctly, and not via some system that only makes sense to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I don't like the fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I, for one, think we should mail all new members care packages of fresh baked snickerdoodles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 Yes he does!He surely must! Because the origin or definition of every word related to what Uni describes goes back to a group of people agreeing en masse to some code of conduct! Some even have it directly in the word!Civil! Courteous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Uni is a very religious and pias man!Not sure what the hell he's doing in this place, but hey he's here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 † Beati pacifici! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 He will save us all, and die for our sins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I'm not what you call a civilized man. I am finished with society, for reasons I alone can appreciate. I don't obey its laws, and I suggest you never again refer to them in my presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 See what we're doing to Uni right now? We should not do this to newbies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Uni is strong! He's been here since 1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 Yes! He will have thick skin and realize we're taking his error in reason and running with it like rabid wolves for fun! But some poor lad or lass with less than 150 posts who has never faced a tag-teaming from StefanKohl? They'd be terrified! Angered! Outraged! Feeling injustice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Agreed. I don't even notice new people untill they have atleast 1000 posts though. Nor do I respond to them.Unless they are female...for some reason.Hmmmmm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 You Continental Europeans are still eerily backwards when it comes to gender! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I am a feminist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I'm a proponent of sane feminism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I'm a proponent of sane feminism.Ive not heard of that, how would you define it?As a newbie, I play it safe - watching from the shadows not saying much of anything. And that's why we love you!Who are you talking to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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