Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Godzilla 2 would look great on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 On 6/6/2019 at 4:42 AM, karelm said: Do any others here remember a time before Star Wars? I don't remember a time before Star Wars (I was in pre-production at the time), but I do recall it not being a thing because - outside of the anglophone world - it really wasn't one and, if international box office numbers are to be believed, it still isn't. In the 2000s, where everbody in my Israeli high-school should have been all about Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith, they were rather all about Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chen G. said: In the 2000s, where everbody in my Israeli high-school should have been all about Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith, they were rather all about Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings. Why would anyone prefer HP and LotR to SW? I mean, they aren't even in space! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, The Original said: I mean, they aren't even in space! Ah, but you're wrong, you see: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Cop out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Not surprise by consistent snide and flippant responses from many here. Few people at this site have no idea of the phenomenon that was Star Wars in 1977. Few know any of the 70's phenomena. Maybe KM, Ricard and Richard do. Alex as well. Everyone else sees Star Wars as a product, as a packaged blockbuster event. There was a time where the word blockbuster was rarely used. Star Wars had no set audience. Star Wars was found by unsuspecting audiences just as Jaws was two years before. Neither film was expected to succeed as they did. They weren't even their studios top priorities. So yeah I remember the time before Star Wars. It was a more naive time, people were not jaded like they are today. Star Wars was a memorable moment in history. Its well worth remembering for what it was then since its so different now. #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,364 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I was 6 when A New Hope was released, so understandably I don't really remember much about 'how things were before' in terms of the movie landscape ... I do recall its huge impact on me personally, however. Then there's the effect on cinema and TV in its wake ... the likes of Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers on the small screen and Star Trek, The Black Hole and Flash Gordon on the big one. Even 007 ended up in space in Moonraker, despite the announcement at the end of his previous adventure that he'd next be seen in 'For Your Eyes Only'. karelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 24 minutes ago, Sweeping Strings said: Then there's the effect on cinema and TV in its wake ... the likes of Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers on the small screen and Star Trek, The Black Hole and Flash Gordon on the big one. Even 007 ended up in space in Moonraker, despite the announcement at the end of his previous adventure that he'd next be seen in 'For Your Eyes Only'. Don't forget Krull! karelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 57 minutes ago, Sweeping Strings said: I was 6 when A New Hope was released, so understandably I don't really remember much about 'how things were before' in terms of the movie landscape ... I do recall its huge impact on me personally, however. Then there's the effect on cinema and TV in its wake ... the likes of Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers on the small screen and Star Trek, The Black Hole and Flash Gordon on the big one. Even 007 ended up in space in Moonraker, despite the announcement at the end of his previous adventure that he'd next be seen in 'For Your Eyes Only'. You were born in 1975? Alex lets forget Krull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Krull has a better score than Star Wars. And chrome font. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Horner's Krull is just as good as Star Wars. As for the movie, the leads were very easy on the eyes, I'll give it that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 It's the guy from Guardians of the Galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 The raccoon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 On 6/10/2019 at 7:01 AM, JoeinAR said: Not surprise by consistent snide and flippant responses from many here. Few people at this site have no idea of the phenomenon that was Star Wars in 1977. Few know any of the 70's phenomena. Maybe KM, Ricard and Richard do. Alex as well. Everyone else sees Star Wars as a product, as a packaged blockbuster event. There was a time where the word blockbuster was rarely used. Star Wars had no set audience. Star Wars was found by unsuspecting audiences just as Jaws was two years before. Neither film was expected to succeed as they did. They weren't even their studios top priorities. So yeah I remember the time before Star Wars. It was a more naive time, people were not jaded like they are today. Star Wars was a memorable moment in history. Its well worth remembering for what it was then since its so different now. Hey, I will never forget seeing ANH in the theaters. It blew my mind in so many ways but I was just 5. 9 hours ago, Alexcremers said: Don't forget Krull! Such a wonderful film and score. Mediocre script though but still very much a gem. I lump this film into the "trying to recapture the success of Star Wars" category but still pleasurable though quite imperfect. Wasn't this our Qui Gon Jinn's Liam Niason's first big role? Battlestar Galactica (78) was also a very pleasurable SW copy with its own vintage charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 20 hours ago, SteveMc said: Horner's Krull is just as good as Star Wars. As for the movie, the leads were very easy on the eyes, I'll give it that. Horner was a great film composer but his Krull score isn't even in Star Wars League. What is wrong with people here that they cannot see or here the greatness of Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,364 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 21 hours ago, JoeinAR said: You were born in 1975? Alex lets forget Krull. Nope, '71. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 @Sweeping StringsOkay So you were 10 when you watched A New Hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: Horner was a great film composer but his Krull score isn't even in Star Wars League. What is wrong with people here that they cannot see or here the greatness of Star Wars. Krull Is Better than Everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,364 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Is this some sort of pedantic thing about it only being called that from '81 onwards and not on its initial release, or something? Because otherwise, I'm very confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 If you say so. I remember only the crystal spiders. 1 minute ago, Sweeping Strings said: Is this some sort of pedantic thing about it only being called that from '81 onwards and not on its initial release, or something? Becuae otherwise, I'm very confused. Its reality. In 1977 you saw Star Wars. At that point A New Hope wasn't even dreamed of. Darth Vader wasn't Luke's father and the "SAGA" wasn't on the table yet. Episode IV became an idea after Star Wars release. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,364 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Fuck, well that's me told . JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 35 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: Darth Vader wasn't Luke's father and the "SAGA" wasn't on the table yet. Episode IV became an idea after Star Wars release. I've actually been through marketing materials, and the film was always advertised as a "space saga". The phrase also appeared at the title on one of Lucas' earlier drafts to the script. He certainly had the prospect of a sequel in mind, too, although I suspect that - even after the success of the first film - his original idea for sequels was more akin to Indiana Jones where each entry is a completely separate adventure. Otherwise, you're right. And its not just a nitpick, either. The changing of the title encapsulates an attempt (and a rather lousy one) to recontextualize the original film into a bigger series that includes prequels as well as sequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,554 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 There's more than one?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, JoeinAR said: Horner was a great film composer but his Krull score isn't even in Star Wars League. What is wrong with people here that they cannot see or here the greatness of Star Wars. Star Wars wasn't truly great until 1999. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I remember life before the prequels well. Sadly I wasn't around before the original trilogy, so I never got to experience the cultural phenomenon of its advent firsthand. Instead, I had an elementary school friend who loved the films and would describe scenes to me (sometimes correctly). Around the same time, I'd occasionally catch snippets on TV. Without any context, I'd begin inventing stories that these scenes might fit into. I'd also become familiar with the main title and the Imperial March from the Star Tracks album. So by the time I finally watched the pre-SE VHS tapes straight through, I somehow knew quite a bit and yet very little. I don't remember much pop culture osmosis before that...I might not have even known about some of the iconic twists. Anyway, I became a huge fan overnight, which didn't bode well for me socially, since it certainly wasn't cool to like Star Wars back then. But I had some sense of these films being a sort of legacy. Even though they were less than 20 years old, they felt like some old secret whose magic most of my peers were oblivious to. It certainly wasn't Star Wars mania like it is now, or like it was when the original films came out. Bottom line, these films did get into my brain early enough for me to be unable to judge them objectively, though I do remember a very different time in the SW zeitgeist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 23 hours ago, Dieter Stark said: Star Wars wasn't truly great until 1999. You could see in 1997 that the OT was starting to show its age. Maybe thats why they added CGI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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