Quintus 5,399 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Seeing as Allen is a major jazz fan, does anyone have any info on Woody's thoughts on this great piece of sci-fi-jazz inspired catchiness? Have I just made a new word in 'catchiness'? Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Is there anythign to suggest he's even heard it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 Well since Star wars was a fairly big film back in '77... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 If he heard it I guess he'd like it then. If you'd asked me a few months ago I could probably have found out for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Who cares what Woody Allen thinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashinyobject 0 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Who cares what Woody Allen thinks?exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 Who cares what Woody Allen thinks?Me, but not for the reasons you obviously think. I just reckon it would be interesting to hear what a celeb 'pro' jazz fan thinks of William's stab at the intergalactic clarinet. Theres nothing wrong with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Of course not...It's strange though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 He would probably hate it, since it's listenable Jazz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 Thats a good point But I imagine that at the least he must repect it for what it is, maybe more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 He would probably say it is too commercial or something. Not like his "authentic" jazz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melange 446 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I should imagine he'd fret and hold his head in anguish walking along the street muttering and whining with a women, just trying to answer the question. As he so often does in his movies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I'm interested to know what Eddie Murphy thinks of Everybody Runs from Minority Report. Anyone have any info on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I'm interested to know what Eddie Murphy thinks of Everybody Runs from Minority Report. Anyone have any info on that?He confided his opinion to me. He actually recorded vocals to it, and added a drum machine, but he can't get the rights to release it on his next album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 It's not even really jazz, isn't it swing music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 It's Bithan music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 A whaaaa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAsterisk 0 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Have I just made a new word in 'catchiness'? Probably not.http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=catchinessListed as a noun form at the bottom of the entry. Merriam-Webster online didn't recognize it.Who cares what Woody Allen thinks?exactly!Seconded. I mean, thirded (I think that one actually is new). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 In an interview, Williams relayed a story that Lucas gave him the idea for what type of music to play in the Cantina. He told him to write an alien interpretation of Benny Goodman music. So that's what Williams set out to accomplish.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 Okay, but aside from this, I happen to know on good authority that Bill Paxton felt slightly ripped off when the judge threw out John Barry's James Bond theme composition claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Oh that old chestnut again. Monty Norman wrote the actual melody, therfore by law it is his composition. Even though Barry gave it the style, sound, and rhythmic impetus (actually turning it from a fairly uninteresting tune into the classis Bond theme we all know and love) he didn't actually write the tune. Unfortunately by law that means he has no claim on composition. Another example is The Christmas Song by Mel Torme and some other guy whos name I forget. There are many incredible arrangements of this, including a gorgeous light jazz version by Vince Guaraldi. You can buy all these different arrangements, but the arranger's name is never included on the writing credits (unless there's a version out there I haven't seen). I think there must be a law prohibiting any name being put on that song other than the two composers, even under an arranger's credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Who cares what Woody Allen thinks? Mrs. Allen. And her adoptive mother used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Monty Norman wrote the actual melody, therfore by law it is his composition.It's not quite as simple as that. I won't go into too much detail, but it is fairly clear (if you know where to look) that Barry "helped" Norman quite a bit. Norman's ex-wife said that she doubted Norman had the skills to compose such a tune, and said that Barry and Norman had worked together on Dr. No. Most of the stories contradict each other though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I really doubt Barry and Norman worked together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Me too, but listen to the Dr. No OST. This is not the sort of person who composes the James Bond theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I really like the Dr No score.It contains more "live" source music than most of the Bond movies, but there are great moments of underscore in there as well. I still get chills when I hear the tarrantula music, and the payoff at the end of that cue (the orchestra stings matching Bond's shoe killing the spider) is a highlight of the entire Bond series.I'm not trying to defend Norman in the ownership of the Bond Theme, it clearly owes FAR more to Barry than Barry is being official credit for, but the main melody comes from a musical that Norman wrote. It IS his melody. As far as copyright goes that's the end of the story unfortunately. Still, Barry didn't exactly get a raw deal out of it. As a result of his work on the Bond theme he was asked to score 12 of the films! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 It's not quite as simple as that. I won't go into too much detail, but it is fairly clear (if you know where to look) that Barry "helped" Norman quite a bit. Norman's ex-wife said that she doubted Norman had the skills to compose such a tune, and said that Barry and Norman had worked together on Dr. No. Most of the stories contradict each other though.Isn't it true that the James Bond Theme was based on an earlier composition by Norman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 That's what Norman says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 He would probably hate it, since it's listenable Jazz.You really find the jazz music in Allen's films to be unlistenable? What about the Gershwin in Manhattan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 These pretzels are making me thirsty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 He would probably hate it, since it's listenable Jazz.You really find the jazz music in Allen's films to be unlistenable? What about the Gershwin in Manhattan?Don't quote me on something I wrote almost 4 years ago. If I'm an ignorant man now, imagine back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I can see this thread getting closed very shortly, because it's an old thread resurrected.I'd be more interested in seeing of Woody Allen would think of a sexy way to film Scarlett Johannson using "Cantina Band." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Is there a rule against nudging old threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 He would probably hate it, since it's listenable Jazz.You really find the jazz music in Allen's films to be unlistenable? What about the Gershwin in Manhattan?Don't quote me on something I wrote almost 4 years ago. If I'm an ignorant man now, imagine back thenJust wondering if you didn't like Dixieland jazz that much or something. I would imagine, by the way, that Allen would like the big-band Benny Goodman style of "Cantina Band." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Is there a rule against nudging old threads?Not that I'm aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Is there a rule against nudging old threads?Not that I'm aware of.I suppose it depends on content, really. There is a rule against bumping old joke threads when the joke might be dead. I bumped a thread that lamented Pierce Brosnan's departure from the James Bond franchise, because it had a cool comment regarding what Indiana Jones IV should involve, and not only was the thread deleted but I was also called on it.In that case, I see the point, since it was old news. Any thread from page 263 that asks who should replace Richard Harris as Dumbledore shouldn't be bumped.But this thread does have a place to bumped, since Woody Allen's still alive and we still don't know what he thinks about Cantina Band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I don't see a problem if the thread was somewhat meaningful and the discussion continued in that direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Like I said, I see your point. It's not a thread bump for the sake of a bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I didn't see your post until after I finished mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 Oh dear. I've just cringed at myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Quint 2009, meet...Quint 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 I was such a nice guy back then. What happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I was such a nice guy back then. What happened...Alcohol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 Nah, I'm a funny when drunk, not moody. I think it was JWfan.com itself which turned me to the darkside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 He was seduced by JWFan. He ceased to be The Great Eye and became Quint. When that happened the good man was destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 I like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 For dry, red great eyes, use Clear Eyes. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 I've actually been thinking of changing my name to Zod lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Oh my God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 Well, either that or Pollyanna. Maybe I should make a poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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