yperelman 0 Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 Have any of you heard of a film music composer by name Illayaraja? Chances are that most of you have not. Its a pity that such a genius remains largely unknown to the western world - largely because he comes from an obscure place ( A state called TamilNadu, in Southern India ). Having heard film music of all the major composers from the world including John Williams, I consider Illayaraja to be the greatest film music composer ever - Period. If you want to know about his music, a good place to start will be an instrumental fusion ( fusion between Bach's music and South Indian classical music) album named "How To Name It?". Yo can read review of the same here:http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...800845?v=glanceYou can hear the pieces here:http://www.nixline.com/Illayaraaja.htmI feel sad that such a composer remains largely obscure and this thread is a small attempt from my side, to expose him to film music lovers all over the world. If any of you want to know more the man's music, please let me know. Thanks.
Adam 1 Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 What criteria are you using to say best film composer ever? I only sampled a short amount and its interesting to hear the fusion of Indian music and classical. I imagine this would appeal mostly to people who like classical music, Indian music or, even better, both. Its the kind of music I can enjoy for a little while as a curiosity but I've never been much of a fan of either genre. And from the point of view of the sophistication and difficulty of the arrangements, certainly there are better film composers, Williams being the most notable. But maybe you're using other criteria or simply saying he's your favorite. - Adam
yperelman 0 Posted November 28, 2004 Author Posted November 28, 2004 Hi Adam, I just referred to fusion album as an introduction to his music. This is just one of the genres where he has delved into.To give you a background, the man has composed music for an incredible 750 films. His music spans a variety of genres that include - Indian classical music, Indian folk music, Minimalism, European Classical music.Unforunately, unlike Hollywood movies, Indian Movie industry do not release soundtrack albums. But a few enthusiasts have recorded his scores directly from his films. They lack in recording quality, but you can have a feel in the following pieces:http://www.iespana.es/i2fs/MounaRaagamBGM.rmhttp://www.raajangahm.com/real/bgmscores/m...iyum/track1.ramhttp://www.raajangahm.com/real/bgmscores/m...rai/track01.ramhttp://www.raajangahm.com/real/bgmscores/a...li/anjali03.ram
JoeinAR 1,955 Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 He isn't John Williams, so he's not the greatest, sorry.Joe, who has worshipped John for over 30 years.
Adam 1 Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 Sounds like he might be the most prolific film composer ever? Its probably a good thing that I?m not a fan of this music. Its bad enough that I have to crave an expanded edition of Temple of Doom and other Williams? odds and ends. Add in another 750 unreleased scores and I?d be one hugely frustrated person. Some of it has the Nyman-like repetitive stuff that I don?t like that much. Other times, there?s potential but the arrangments lack a certain subtlety or maybe seem to robotic. Course I?m basing this judgement on hearing .000001% of his total output so it shouldn't dissuade anybody. Anyway, thanks for the links - very interesting.- Adam
John McClane 1 Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 Well, if Illayaraja is something like a new John Williams nickname, yes he is! TJ LOL
John McClane 1 Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 No, seriously, I never heard him. Sorry!
Docteur Qui 1,581 Posted November 29, 2004 Posted November 29, 2004 Well I think largely Williams is largely the greatest.Magical_Me - Largely obscure and not largely as great as Williams.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,842 Posted November 29, 2004 Posted November 29, 2004 John Williams is the greatest film composer of all time!
Lurker 5 Posted November 29, 2004 Posted November 29, 2004 James Horner is the greatest film composer of all time! Neil
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,842 Posted November 30, 2004 Posted November 30, 2004 You must be joking!
Lurker 5 Posted November 30, 2004 Posted November 30, 2004 You must be joking!Nice job editing your post 5 hours later.Neil
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,842 Posted November 30, 2004 Posted November 30, 2004 It was a spelling error...nothing more.
Lurker 5 Posted November 30, 2004 Posted November 30, 2004 It was a spelling error...nothing more.You spelled "John Williams" as "James Horner".Neil
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,842 Posted November 30, 2004 Posted November 30, 2004 I know what you are but what am I?
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,842 Posted November 30, 2004 Posted November 30, 2004 Hey come up with something of your own!Stefancos- who has a whole host of "Belgen moppen" and is not afraid to use them!
Josh500 1,620 Posted November 30, 2004 Posted November 30, 2004 Do we need to discuss this? Rachel Portman is the greatest film composer!!!P.S.: Right after JW. HEHE.
Morlock 11 Posted November 30, 2004 Posted November 30, 2004 Illayaraja - The greatest film music composer ever? Yes. Definately yes. Morlock- Who knows
Lurker 5 Posted November 30, 2004 Posted November 30, 2004 Illayaraja - The greatest film music composer ever? Yes. Definately yes. Morlock- Who knowsTraitorNeil
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,842 Posted November 30, 2004 Posted November 30, 2004 Illayaraja - The greatest film music composer ever? Yes. Definately yes. Morlock- Who knowsI think you are a numbnuts for posting this.
Morlock 11 Posted November 30, 2004 Posted November 30, 2004 You can't deny the truth. Ilya thing-a-majig is the future.
Lurker 5 Posted November 30, 2004 Posted November 30, 2004 Morlock doesn't know who Illayaraja is becuase, well he's a Morlock.Neil
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,842 Posted November 30, 2004 Posted November 30, 2004 I think this might be turning into a Religious discussion.
Morlock 11 Posted November 30, 2004 Posted November 30, 2004 I think you are a numbnuts for posting this. Interesting. Is numbnuts my name, title, or occupation? Morlock- guessing 'all of the above'
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,842 Posted November 30, 2004 Posted November 30, 2004 It's whatever I deem fitting at the time.
krihoo 0 Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 ha ha haaJOHN WILLIAMS GREATER THAN ILAYARAJA ??JOHN WILLIAMS is very very great .....and maybe 30 times above the others like hans zimmer , jerry goldsmith etc.....but in front of ilayaraja , he is no where.............i am big fan of John williams and ilayaraja.....and I got deep knowledge on both................and with that knowledge i am saying john williams musical output is nothing when compared to divine , creative and expressive music of ilayaraja.....JUST SAY U DONNO ILAYARAJA.....but without knowledge dont even think of ridiculing him....coz when u attain the knowledge u feel guilty ............ha h ahabut i wud agree ...with adam.....john williams compositions are presented with much sophisticated orchestra.....thats only output of musical notes .....its just like u r using sophisticated technology to play a tune whereas someone is creating music on hand made drums.....but see the compostions ...the ORIGINAL notes put on document ....dont compare coke and water......and if Ilayarajas heart touching notes are presented with symphonic orchestras ......then the fallen WTC will stand on its own ...ha ha haa......ilayarajas compositions are like part of nature......like a flower , like a honey bee hive, or child born....and if u talk about quantity .....the music stamena ......then if JW has scored 10 points then ilayaraja has scored some 2000 points....JOHN WILLIAMS IS SOPHISTICATES SUB SUB SUBSET OF ILAYARAAJA
Josh500 1,620 Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Illayaraja - The greatest film music composer ever? Yes. Definately yes. Morlock- Who knowsMorlock, why don't you post this at illayarajafan.net??? If there IS such a thing. Just who the heck is this guy? How could he be the best film composer if no one's ever heard of him???
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,842 Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 ha ha haaJOHN WILLIAMS IS SOPHISTICATES SUB SUB SUBSET OF ILAYARAAJAAlways nice to meet a new poster.
krihoo 0 Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 ha ha ha...this is even big jokeu mean u can never miss the best one is it ?? how mean.........
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,842 Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Pleased to meet you to, were are you from?
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,842 Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Yes I am, thank you for noticing.
Justin 2 Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 What is this thread about again?Justin - Wondering why this new member is trying to convince a society of Williams lovers that the center of their society is infact not the best composer ever. It's like we're The Masterpiece Society and here you are bring in outside influences.
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 What a classy post, krihoo. Thanks for contributing.Ray Barnsbury :roll:
Lurker 5 Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 if Ilayarajas heart touching notes are presented with symphonic orchestras ......then the fallen WTC will stand on its own ...ha ha haa......WTF are you talking about?Neil
Justin 2 Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 It sure is interesting to wonder about it.Justin - Off to www.ilyjafan.netNOT!
krihoo 0 Posted December 3, 2004 Posted December 3, 2004 if Ilayarajas heart touching notes are presented with symphonic orchestras ......then the fallen WTC will stand on its own ...ha ha haa......WTF are you talking about?Neili mean so powerful that music
krihoo 0 Posted December 3, 2004 Posted December 3, 2004 Illayaraja - The greatest film music composer ever? Yes. Definately yes. Morlock- Who knowsMorlock, why don't you post this at illayarajafan.net??? If there IS such a thing. Just who the heck is this guy? How could he be the best film composer if no one's ever heard of him???cmon pal, JOSH ...........dont say sun is biggest start since u see it... don be a frog in deep well that thinks well is whole world....sorry...........ilayaraja is hardcore regional composer ......regional ppl who are exposed to his and JWs music can only compare.....other miss out......I Know GEORGE BUSH ...but BUSH doesnt know me ....and there is possibilty that I am better than BUSH by 1000 times ...rite ?? hee hee
krihoo 0 Posted December 3, 2004 Posted December 3, 2004 JOHN WILLIAMS- Mighty musicHANS ZIMMER - Royal musicJERRY GOLDSMITH - Solid musicJAMES HORNER - Melodious musicCHRISTOPHER YOUNG - Passionate music
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted December 3, 2004 Posted December 3, 2004 With each post, this thread is more and more of a joke.Ray Barnsbury
stewdog1 50 Posted December 3, 2004 Posted December 3, 2004 What is this thread about again?Justin - Wondering why this new member is trying to convince a society of Williams lovers that the center of their society is infact not the best composer ever. It's like we're The Masterpiece Society and here you are bring in outside influences. If it doesn't work for Vangelis, it definetly won't work for ilyJarJar.
Lurker 5 Posted December 3, 2004 Posted December 3, 2004 With each post, this thread is more and more of a joke. If it doesn't work for Vangelis, it definetly won't work for ilyJarJar. "Woah, yousa guys bombad!"Neil
John Crichton 4 Posted December 3, 2004 Posted December 3, 2004 How many more pointless posts before we see the Dancing Lock of Death?John- adding one more.
Mr. Breathmask 623 Posted December 3, 2004 Posted December 3, 2004 This thread should stay open, as sort of a tribute, to... something or other. - Marc,
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