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    Open minds

    Sorry, used a Jerry tag to get you in here. I used to despise Junk XL. I hated everything the guy did, except the end credits to The Dark Tower which is an awesome combination of Broughton and Zimmer,. Mortal Engines - man, Peter Jackson sure has a way to make intelligent people re-assess artists. I mean Shore in 2000 was a difficult art composer, melody and Shore did not meet often. But when they did, they were beautiful, Big or The Yards. And then of course LOTR I thought, Junkie was literally Junk. I hated that drone brass sound he uses. But then Mortal Engines came along. Yes, it's Pope in the massive orchestra but it's also so frigging junkie in melody and style. And have a go at that Brimstone tutorial. Or Becoming a Tomb Raider, or any of the cues from Mortal Engines Listen, I geek out at Joel McNeely doing a brass blast in Orville - I'd orgasm at a McNeely Star Wars score, a real one. But hey ho, I recommend my sir Junkie to both Dune and Avatar. If you don't like it have have a listen to Battle Angel Alita. My favourite: have a go at The Warrior Within, and listen to from 2:17 - 2:30, and for older folks is there a Harry Sukman reference in there earlier?
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    Villenueve's Dune

    Balfe has never composed a single piece of music that identifies him as the composer. Junk+boyo is very easy to distinguish as his style is so obvious.
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    Villenueve's Dune

    Balfe is a copycat, Junk XL has his own style.
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    Villenueve's Dune

    Man, Junkie's now the front-runner for this and Avatar. I say awesome - he showed melodic skills worth of a Poledouris with Mortal Engines and orchestral fireworks worthy of Goldenthal with Alita. He is the obvious and the best choice for the franchise.
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    Open minds

    Awesome, that's exactly my perspective on old Junk'o! But he is really hitting his stride with Mortal Engines and Battle Angel, I do hope he gets both Avatar and Dune, he is the most interesting composer working right now. I mean I love Silvestri and JNH but yeah, a Junk score would be awesome. Sorry...... Der Junk is arguably more creative than, say, a Silvestri. We know what Alan's score to Avatar would sound like and that opening cue to Ready Player One did no one any favours, least of Cameron. JNH is the next big baby. A man of so-so-so-so-so many talents. We all know the JNH sound, but for the industry he is a man of interchangebility. So yeah, let's find someone new. Bring back Trevor Jones or just get the old Junk on. Balfe is a cheap approximation. Balfe is the McScore industry - cheap and cheeerful. Good for Free Willy 7 but not so great for anything else. Who hires Balf......... McBalfe - an extinct piece of what what........ Well, for all our sakes, let's hope we get a Mission Impossible by Junkie. Anything by the Balfe is a joke.
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    Open minds

    The orchestrations are beautiful - just to hear all those instuments in a modern score is a win
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    Open minds

    Well, if you like Golden Age scores and Max Steiner you will love the theme that old Holkenborg concocted for Battle Angel.
  8. That brass figure that kicks off The Fight - that right there is why McNeely is a huge genious, especially when it kicks into high gear in the first minute of the track. The Cottell stuff, in response to Jay, seems much more like Original Series Star Trek, probably on intention. But it's not exactly the fireworks that McNeely, especially, provides with his impeccable command of brass.
  9. Never enough love for this score. Haven't watched the show but adore, fucking adore, the score! For all of you taking the piss out of Debney and McNeely as Williams imitators, it is so easy to see their styles in the scores here, once the episodes change. 1. The Broughton stuff is the Broughton - professional, theme from Silverado gets a workout 2. The Debney stuff is fantastic - whatever political problems I had with the dude disappear with this coctail of bombastic mayhem. Yes, someone had a good listen to many Silvestri scores....but this is such a treasure trove of riches, check out track 16 cd1, incorretly labelled as McNeely digitally. Awesome Goldsmith / Folk bombasticism (and a bit of a nod to Poledouris) 3. The McNeely stuff is even better. Jesus this stuff is orgasmic. Kill Attack the Orville and The Fight are sensational pieces of film music. 4. The Cottell stuff - what the duck. That brass figure that kicks off The Fight - that right there is why McNeely is a huge genious.
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    Mission: Impossible 7 & 8

    Balfe is what in the 80s you might have called a TV composer. He has skills to get the job done but no imagination on anything. There'll be a few live bongos in the next film, a lot of supposedly live brass that sounds exactly like my keyboard, and no imagination. That's the seemingly Chris Nolan way they want to go here. But if McQuarrie and Cruise are sticking to their mandate on making every film different, well how about (they are not going to go full Lathimos whatever), trying the Jeremy Dyson way, and go for Frank Ilfman. How about being more creative, Mansell has burned his bridges but still does excellent music but how about Richter, he can do anything, or even a Murray Gold.
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    Villenueve's Dune

    Stefancos: 'Its a awfully dated book that should probably be retired rather then adapted again. Its position of women is backwards and appaling, and to have a "middle eastern" desert dwelling folk call for a Jihad is incredibly problematic in this day and age'. Well, yes and so are parts of LOTR, but with someone like Villeneauve at the helm, these will be the targets of the new film, a deconstruction of empire, fascism and well, Brexit and Trump, a story for our times right there, big bloated bad guy barons and cowardly politicians.
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    Villenueve's Dune

    Again, everyone's going to hate this but give it to Junkie, a lot of Mortal Engines even skirts around the Toto Spice theme. I think the guy's been beaten into his senses by working with people who know film scores - Rodriquez and Cameron. There is no Lorne Balfe shitbagging here (let's put a few bongos in there to make it 'original', and pretend we do film musak). Cameron invented so many scoring styles in collaboration with his composers. Whether this be Fiedel's cold metallic madness or Horner's aggressive wagnerian bombasticism with Aliens, they break boundaries. I cannot think of anyone to take up the Avatar mantle outside of JNH, but he may be too obvious for old Jimbo Cameron. For Villeneuve, it depends on the style. Johannson's folk will be all over it but Sicario 2 did not exactly bring out....well anyone. Wallfisch is good of course but he's not great with large epic stuff. It depends how much of an investment this is for the studio. If they go for a LOTR situation they could try out some great composers out of the norm. They could hire a Panu Aaltio , or as they always should, they go for Chad Seiter Especially Seiter is criminally overlooked as a composer.
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    Villenueve's Dune

    When talking about franchises, I meant Hans does not abide with franchise identity, does he? He COMES into franchises (take this literally or otherwise) but nothing great ever comes out of it until they reboot. He does franchises, a bit like Debbie does Dallas, but they do not end up well. It is distressing to witness the Zimmeriziation of film scoring - I love the guy's scores, I hate the business/franchising model. Agree with Romao there. contemporary pop does not frigging work for epics!
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    Villenueve's Dune

    That Toto score was a miracle of many meetings. And I love it to bits - astonishing that Paich could hold them all together to come up with the main theme etc/ Wonder if young boy JNH had any role here?
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    Villenueve's Dune

    Anymore....yes, he's on Dark Phoenix but (apparently) he's not into franchised sounds anymore, even though he destroyed a few franchises with his monosyllabic excrement for Batman. Zimmer is a disease?
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    Villenueve's Dune

    Some of these guys are nonsense. To me, let Junkie and Conrad Pope have a go with the New Zealand Symphony and you will be all weeping awesome baby tears. Goldenthal is too crazy and prestigious, Goldsmith is dead, Williams won't do it, Horner, well, Hans does not do franchises......Der Junkmeister is the best. but only with Pope.
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    Villenueve's Dune

    Goldenthal would be ideal - absolutely, but is there anything in Villeneuve's ouvre to merit such a grandiose score? If Balfe gets his dirty mittens on this, it will sound like any-other-thing. At the same time. Junkie's Mortal Engines is a huge orchestral fantasy score, precisely the kind that this film may deem old fashioned (I dare compare Junk XL to Krull with this score - they are as good!). It will probably just be Andrew Kaczxynski (under the Hans Zimmer label) farting into a tube and Barfe blasting out the same old string figure, but now, IMPORTANTLY, with Moroccan bowls (as his silly percussion for MI: Fallout seemed to be so impressive as it used bongo drums - JUST LIKE SCHIFRIN!! Yeah).
  18. http://www.blakeneely.com/#page=listen&section=tv&item=the-keepers This is so beautiful, if you like your JNH, if you like your Barry, have a real gander at this. Yo, and don't click on the obvious. If you go for Episode 7, Charlie the Golden Boy, or She Wasn't Happy, you will be met with a torrent of awesome emotion.
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    The Hog Chase

    These are the most innovative pieces composed for film music since, I would argue, Hook? The Mines of Moria? Or simply just great pieces of music. Forget the HZ association, these are total Powell, the sound is better at Spotify. I would argue these are close to the best track of all time - along with Shore's work on Mines of Moria.
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    Villenueve's Dune

    I am going to get massacred for this opinion but: Junkie XL! As you all know, I hated the guy IMMENSELY but have totally mystically been bowled over by Mortal Engines, which is still the best orchestral adventure score of the last 10 year, easily. Seems like Peter Jackson has huge power over his composers - they compose Peter Jackson music based on their own ways: Shore sounds a bit like Shore but nothing like the Cronenberg version, Junk sounds something like him but amplified into a great epic composer. As a result I now place Junk alongside Horner, up there with Krull and Willow, loving Mortal Engines. And my favourite scores are as always, Cutthroat Island and Under Fire.
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    Blake Neely's The Keepers

    Asshat named Jurassic Shark has not listened has he? Well. Listen you no name yellow vest Trump bag (JK), am not happy about Neely's DC work but I guarantee you will love this work if you like Christopher Young's melodic stuff like Jennifer 8 and Copycat. You arseholes have to make a bit effort but go to Episode 6: The Big Sister or Episode 7: She Wasn't Happy (especially if you like Richter or JNH's Village). It's great this is even released. Leonard Morgan's Wormwood is not
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    Blake Neely's The Keepers

    Yo, and don't click on the obvious. If you go for Episode 7, Charlie the Golden Boy, or She Wasn't Happy, you will be met with a torrent of awesome emotion.
  23. Cos its orchestration and placement is like a bad 80s sitcom. Very popular at the time. struggling since
  24. Black Panther for the win. A properly interesting score for a great film. First Man for runner up. The rest are .....empty space. Der list, banking money on this list: “Black Panther” – Ludwig Goransson + winner “First Man” – Justin Hurwitz “If Beale Street Could Talk” – Nicholas Britell “Mary Poppins Returns” – Marc Shaiman “A Quiet Place” – Marco Beltrami
  25. Who gives a crap about box office or popularity? If you are JG fans, well....This one is pretty good, der JunkMeister comes in with a dodgy brass or two but overall, I have no interest in the film, this is a Peter Jackson score that stands proud as a weak cousin to LOTR.
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