Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 While Star Trek has pretty much always been my favorite franchise, I recently introduced myself to Doctor Who (2005-present) and was really impressed by it. It's undeniably a great TV show and it's easy to see why it's enjoyed not only by geeks, but a more general audience as well. Great characters and compelling stories. It's everything Star Trek has been without for over a decade. It's basically filled the void for all that...time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 No of course not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 30, 2017 Author Share Posted June 30, 2017 Star Trek used to be better than Doctor Who, but when the Star Trek franchise took a shit and was reduced to JJ Abrams films from the writers of Transformers, Doctor Who became better than Star Trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Imagine when JJ Abrams directs a Doctor Who movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 I like "Doctor Who" just fine and have loved it on occasion; but if you compare the entirety of it with the entirety of "Star Trek," it's Trek by a mile, at least in my opinion. "Doctor Who" IS pretty great, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 They both have their highs and lows. Some episodes of Nu-Who are better than a majority of TNG episodes, but stylistically the two shows are different. The Doctor is a singular hero, the crew of the Enterprise/Voyager/DS9 are a team working together to overcome conflicts with species they encounter. So I would think the better question would be which is better 'This episode' or 'that episode'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 That episode, obviously. Arpy and Wojo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 I like that one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Evil-Lyn said: Star Trek used to be better than Doctor Who, but when the Star Trek franchise took a shit and was reduced to JJ Abrams films from the writers of Transformers, Doctor Who became better than Star Trek. Seems very reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Which one is better? Difficult to say, since they're sort-of different beasts. Doctor Who, and also Stargate for that matter, are certainly far more entertaining. Star Trek, on the other hand, is more "interesting". What is it that makes the difference for me? Star Trek takes itself quite seriously, while those other two decidedly don't. Stargate pokes fun of itself and other films/series often enough. And Doctor Who is just sheer lunacy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Wait, are we taking this seriously now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 We all know what's better than everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Evil-Lyn's dream TV series: Gruesome Son of a Bitch and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 9 hours ago, Evil-Lyn said: Star Trek used to be better than Doctor Who, but when the Star Trek franchise took a shit and was reduced to JJ Abrams films from the writers of Transformers, Doctor Who became better than Star Trek. I definitely see what you're saying. Doctor Who is filling the more traditional role of science fiction, using allegory/metaphor to comment on our times and/or the human condition, whereas Star Trek is just standard-issue blockbuster fare now. But I love both Doctor Who and old Trek. Let's hold out hope for Star Trek Discovery! Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 30, 2017 Author Share Posted June 30, 2017 1 hour ago, BloodBoal said: Evil-Lyn's dream TV series: Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Anti-plastic! Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Even if one supposes the Kelvinverse Trek movies are garbage, they're better than a great deal of the pre-Eccleston Doctor Who. Very little in Trek even approaches being as bad as the worst of the Who episodes (especially of, say, the Sixth Doctor). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 No one here means old Who. Except Richard. The exception that proves the rule. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 I see no reason to compare Trek and Who if Justin just means the post 2005 show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 4 hours ago, Stefancos said: Wait, are we taking this seriously now? Depends. You like Star Trek best, right? And Star Trek takes itself seriously. Does that mean you also like taking this comparison seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: I see no reason to compare Trek and Who if Justin just means the post 2005 show Either way, I don't think comparing worst to worst would be the best way to determine which is "better." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 30, 2017 Author Share Posted June 30, 2017 4 hours ago, Sally Spectra said: Anti-plastic! Another one of The Doctor's most memorable lines for some reason. It's all in the delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 There is a 'crossover' comic-book in which the Eleventh Doctor pitches up on the TNG-era Enterprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Yeah I read that comic. It wasn't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Ah. Well, thought mention of it was fitting for the thread regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 1, 2017 Author Share Posted July 1, 2017 Sweeping Strings and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Is Doctor Who better then Star Trek over the entire 50+ year lifespans of both landmark franchises? No. Is Doctor Who better than Star Trek over only the last twelve years? Yes. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Doctor Who was rubbish before 1996! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Just now, Stefancos said: Doctor Who was rubbish before 1996! And Star Trek has been rubbish since 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 But...but..Beyond had some good bits... almost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 I saw a few seconds of Doctor Who on TV yesterday and it looks like it's filmed by the same crew who does EastEnders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Some black bars can fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 It probably was. It still has that clean and sterile BBC look. ITV, Grenada etc look much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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